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  • SPQR
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1433

    • March 08, 2018, 07:04:54 pm
    • Sierra Leone
HTF are we at 240,000 new cases a day???
« on: February 24, 2022, 01:48:38 pm »
I just don't get it. Almost everyone is vaxxed. Over 50%
of the population has had boosters, but we are leading the
world in new cases! Can any anybody explain this? What
makes Korea so different than just about every other
country?
« Last Edit: March 04, 2022, 07:14:06 am by SPQR »
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  • Savant
  • The Legend

    • 3608

    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2022, 02:00:57 pm »
Omicron is more contagious than previous variants.  Korea has a low booster rate and just a double dose might not be enough to prevent/limit infection. Plus, the unvaccinated in Korea are still in their millions.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 8000

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2022, 02:04:59 pm »
True. Encourage more first, second, and third doses. Also, vaccines don’t stop transmission. So, be as healthy as you can - meaning no more drinking - then don’t worry about it. Covid can’t be eradicated - it’s already in many animal species. Be afraid forever? No, just ignore it. Strengthen your immune system then go on living normally.


  • Bakeacake
  • Expert Waygook

    • 550

    • July 12, 2010, 01:35:40 pm
    • Pohang South Korea
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2022, 02:06:21 pm »
korea did very well with all the other variants, thanks to mask wearing and track and trace, plus isolation measures. Omicron is a different beast. Its infecting everyone it touches basically. And since so few had gotten any other previous variants, more people will be getting this variant. It was the best case scenario considering the low death / serious side effects of omicron. hopefully the stigma of getting the virus is being worn away as more people are getting it.  School starts next week...  gonna explode.  ive got some bets of march 16th being the peak.  guess is 437,245


  • SPQR
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1433

    • March 08, 2018, 07:04:54 pm
    • Sierra Leone
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2022, 02:11:43 pm »

 And since so few had gotten any other previous variants, more people will be getting this variant.


This makes sense.
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  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1943

    • February 15, 2019, 04:39:00 pm
    • NE Hemisphere
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2022, 02:15:58 pm »
The answer is clear, eat more kimchi.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 8000

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2022, 02:16:22 pm »
hopefully the stigma of getting the virus is being worn away as more people are getting it.

Hopefully also worn away is the fear of the virus. As millions get it and recover from it quickly, they’ll realize it is not as dangerous as they’ve been led to believe. For old folks it is dangerous, yes, but for most it is not. Especially if boosted.


  • nightninja
  • Expert Waygook

    • 529

    • April 02, 2018, 03:20:32 pm
    • Korea
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2022, 02:29:26 pm »
and yet until this week I believe they still focused on international arrivals too much.......I mean while I did enjoy the door to door service from the airport to the health center for my covid test and then home after a long flight (Incheon to Gangwon)......was that all necessary? I could have taken another PCR at the airport upon arrival, tested negative, and just taken public transportation a few hours later.......but it was nice to not really have to worry about taking different modes of transportation and extra time it takes to get home....
« Last Edit: February 24, 2022, 02:36:12 pm by nightninja »


  • D.L.Orean
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1090

    • February 25, 2020, 09:34:41 am
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2022, 02:41:32 pm »
Hopefully also worn away is the fear of the virus. As millions get it and recover from it quickly, they’ll realize it is not as dangerous as they’ve been led to believe. For old folks it is dangerous, yes, but for most it is not. Especially if boosted.

The fear I hear, in people around me, comes from hagwon teachers. And they are not afraid of the health impacts of the virus so much as the stigma and consequences of catching it. They'll be unpaid for their recovery period and possibly made to feel unwelcome on their return to work. I have a Korean acquaintance (not a teacher) who caught covid last year and was essentially fired because of it.


  • waygo0k
  • The Legend

    • 4717

    • September 27, 2011, 11:51:01 am
    • Chungnam
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2022, 04:11:04 pm »
With such a high vaxx rate, infection rates are no longer that significant.

What you should be looking at is hospitalisation and death rates…which should be low based on Korea’s high vaxx rate (can’t be bothered to check the numbers)


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

    • 3797

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2022, 04:26:59 pm »
With such a high vaxx rate, infection rates are no longer that significant.

What you should be looking at is hospitalisation and death rates…which should be low based on Korea’s high vaxx rate (can’t be bothered to check the numbers)

But as of yet, most elementary age children are not eligible.


EDIT: Just looked at today's paper, 5 to 11 year-olds are now eligible!
« Last Edit: February 24, 2022, 05:55:18 pm by Mr C »


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1048

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2022, 05:29:29 pm »
Omicron is more contagious than previous variants.  Korea has a low booster rate and just a double dose might not be enough to prevent/limit infection. Plus, the unvaccinated in Korea are still in their millions.

Actually, Korea has one of the highest booster rates in the world. Among the 18+ age group it's 70%. And teenagers received their second dose just less than 3 months ago.
The problem is that other countries have way higher infection rates. Even the officially confirmed cases in many countries are 20-25% of the total population. And the actual rates are much higher. Korea was at 1 million cases just earlier this month.


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1048

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2022, 05:39:53 pm »
With such a high vaxx rate, infection rates are no longer that significant.

What you should be looking at is hospitalisation and death rates…which should be low based on Korea’s high vaxx rate (can’t be bothered to check the numbers)

Unfortunately, the number of critical cases are going up. It went from 380-ish to 580-ish in a week. It is likely to increase much further in the coming weeks. The number of fatalities are also going up.
The moment they stopped relying on pcr tests, it was clear that they let omicron run free in the country.


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

    • 3797

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2022, 05:49:12 pm »
Unfortunately, the number of critical cases are going up. It went from 380-ish to 580-ish in a week. It is likely to increase much further in the coming weeks. The number of fatalities are also going up.
The moment they stopped relying on pcr tests, it was clear that they let omicron run free in the country.

Also track and trace: I went to Emart on Tuesday, and my building's coffee shop today--and there's no QR reader, no phone sign-in sheet, and no phone check-in number.  But I'm still getting notifications.


  • Sagi Keun
  • Super Waygook

    • 385

    • May 10, 2018, 11:47:23 am
    • Los Angeles
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2022, 09:15:52 pm »
What you should be looking at is hospitalisation and death rates…which should be low based on Korea’s high vaxx rate (can’t be bothered to check the numbers)

What I don't understand is why the country doesn't simply treat omicron like the common cold.

Quote
People infected with the Omicron coronavirus variant are nearly 75% less likely to develop serious illness or die than those who contract the Delta variant, real world data released on Monday by South Korea’s health authorities showed.

A study by the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency (KDCA) of some 67,200 infections confirmed since December showed the Omicron variant’s severity and death rates averaged 0.38% and 0.18%, respectively, compared with 1.4% and 0.7% for the Delta cases.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8636502/covid-omicron-death-south-korea-data/

That's a mortality rate faaar below the seasonal flu.


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

    • 3797

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2022, 09:23:34 pm »
What I don't understand is why the country doesn't simply treat omicron like the common cold.

That's a mortality rate faaar below the seasonal flu.

The COVID-19 situation continues to change, sometimes rapidly. Doctors and scientists are working to estimate the mortality rate of COVID-19. At present, it is thought to be substantially higher (possibly 10 times or more) than that of most strains of the flu.
-- https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Updated on February 23, 2022
« Last Edit: February 24, 2022, 09:26:19 pm by Mr C »


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 8000

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2022, 09:25:50 pm »
It's now about double that of the flu from what I read.
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Around 56% of 1,073 people who died over the past five weeks were either unvaccinated or had received only one dose, the study showed, with people aged 60 or older accounting for 94% of deaths.

Really important to get first, second, and third vaccine doses to those aged 60 or older.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 8000

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2022, 09:35:59 pm »
Found some stats:

Data has shown the fatality rate of omicron infections among people who have completed three rounds of COVID-19 vaccinations dropped to levels similar to that of the seasonal flu.

http://world.kbs.co.kr/service/news_view.htm?lang=e&Seq_Code=167841

The omicron fatality rate among the unvaccinated, however, was higher at 0.5%, which is over five times that of the flu.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 8000

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2022, 09:42:14 pm »
Another February article:

Health authorities say that, while the ratio of severe and fatal omicron cases is less than a third that of delta, omicron's fatality is roughly double that of the seasonal flu.

http://world.kbs.co.kr/service/news_view.htm?lang=e&Seq_Code=167515

Omicron patients in their 50s and younger experienced minor to no symptoms.


  • waygo0k
  • The Legend

    • 4717

    • September 27, 2011, 11:51:01 am
    • Chungnam
Re: HTF are we at 170,000 new cases a day???
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2022, 08:15:48 am »
Unfortunately, the number of critical cases are going up. It went from 380-ish to 580-ish in a week. It is likely to increase much further in the coming weeks. The number of fatalities are also going up.
The moment they stopped relying on pcr tests, it was clear that they let omicron run free in the country.

580 critical cases a week out of...say 500k+ weekly infections is statistically zero. Those critical rate numbers would be in the tens of thousands by now without the high vaxx rate.

What I don't understand is why the country doesn't simply treat omicron like the common cold.

That's a mortality rate faaar below the seasonal flu.

Omicron is NOT the common cold. Common colds don't overwhelm first world medical systems within a few weeks.