Russia and the Ukraine

Just a friendly reminder to slag posts, not posters.


Ok! 


Not ok. 

So in your logic Assad, who was winning the war, decided to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by gassing his own people?

So despite all these reported and deleted posts, this stays up?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/nov/15/facebook-posts/no-russia-did-not-donate-145-million-clinton-found/

If (Giustra) is telling the truth, the donation amount to the Clinton Foundation from Uranium One investors drops significantly — from $145 million to $4 million.

Compare to: In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets ... We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia. -Donald Trump Jr.
Or: Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. -Eric Trump

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

Trump is wrong to claim that Clinton “gave away 20 percent of the uranium in the United States” to Russia. ... Jose Fernandez, a former assistant secretary of state, told the New York Times that he represented the department on the committee. “Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any C.F.I.U.S. matter,”

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/what-the-mueller-report-says-about-obstruction/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIruOmjd3v9gIVBVZgCh2ROgv6EAAYASAAEgIl8fD_BwE

Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,  if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.
--it's not that the investigation found no collusion, but that their attempt to find it was obstructed.

So despite all these reported and deleted posts, this stays up?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/nov/15/facebook-posts/no-russia-did-not-donate-145-million-clinton-found/

If (Giustra) is telling the truth, the donation amount to the Clinton Foundation from Uranium One investors drops significantly — from $145 million to $4 million.

Compare to: In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets ... We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia. -Donald Trump Jr.
Or: Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. -Eric Trump

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

Trump is wrong to claim that Clinton “gave away 20 percent of the uranium in the United States” to Russia. ... Jose Fernandez, a former assistant secretary of state, told the New York Times that he represented the department on the committee. “Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any C.F.I.U.S. matter,”

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/what-the-mueller-report-says-about-obstruction/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIruOmjd3v9gIVBVZgCh2ROgv6EAAYASAAEgIl8fD_BwE

Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,  if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.
--it's not that the investigation found no collusion, but that their attempt to find it was obstructed.

It's the Big Lie method--you keep telling it until people start believing it. Just like trump saying he never heard of a burner phone.

Be respectful and yet still call it as you see it.

Let's keep this thread going.

Debate is good. Keep it above the belt.