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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: Russia and the Ukraine
« Reply #881 on: March 25, 2022, 12:31:36 pm »
North Korea doesn't have magical 152mm or 122mm artillery that enables it to reach Seoul.
Lol.
Yes, North Korea doesn't have magical 152mm and 122mm artillery that enables it to reach Seoul. There's no 122mm system in the world that could reach Seoul from the DMZ. Likewise with 152mm pieces (Maybe some RAP that could hit the extreme edge?), nor the 130 and 120mm pieces in its inventory which combined with the above constitute the overwhelming majority of its artillery forces. It DOES have 170mm Koksan SPA systems which could with RAPs, but that's about it. It also has a couple hundred 240mm rocket launchers and a few dozen 300mm that could reach.

Of course once these systems open up they'll be subject to counter-battery fire and airstrikes and the long-range systems are some of North Korea's best. It would be dubious military strategy to use these to scare the residents of Mapo and Eunpyeong and blow up a Tony Moly. So while some are no doubt there for deterrence, it is probable that most are in reserve for use against actual military targets.

Anyways, how you took that above sentence to mean "North Korea can't hit Seoul" is beyond me. Unless you thought they didn't have 122 and 152mm pieces Or thought that North Korea didn't have the some magic version of those or something...I don't know.

But anyways, to most people in the know, they don't have to do the above explanation because everyone knows that super-heavy artillery units (170mm~203mm) with those kinds of ranges are far less numerous than light 105~122mm and heavy 152~155mm systems.
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Re: Russia and the Ukraine
« Reply #882 on: March 25, 2022, 12:44:31 pm »
Just a friendly reminder to slag posts, not posters.


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Re: Russia and the Ukraine
« Reply #883 on: March 31, 2022, 02:35:47 pm »
So in your logic Assad, who was winning the war, decided to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by gassing his own people?



So despite all these reported and deleted posts, this stays up?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/nov/15/facebook-posts/no-russia-did-not-donate-145-million-clinton-found/

If (Giustra) is telling the truth, the donation amount to the Clinton Foundation from Uranium One investors drops significantly — from $145 million to $4 million.

Compare to: In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets ... We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia. -Donald Trump Jr.
Or: Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. -Eric Trump

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

Trump is wrong to claim that Clinton “gave away 20 percent of the uranium in the United States” to Russia. ... Jose Fernandez, a former assistant secretary of state, told the New York Times that he represented the department on the committee. “Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any C.F.I.U.S. matter,”

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/what-the-mueller-report-says-about-obstruction/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIruOmjd3v9gIVBVZgCh2ROgv6EAAYASAAEgIl8fD_BwE

Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,  if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.
--it's not that the investigation found no collusion, but that their attempt to find it was obstructed.


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Re: Russia and the Ukraine
« Reply #884 on: March 31, 2022, 06:47:50 pm »
So despite all these reported and deleted posts, this stays up?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/nov/15/facebook-posts/no-russia-did-not-donate-145-million-clinton-found/

If (Giustra) is telling the truth, the donation amount to the Clinton Foundation from Uranium One investors drops significantly — from $145 million to $4 million.

Compare to: In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets ... We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia. -Donald Trump Jr.
Or: Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. -Eric Trump

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

Trump is wrong to claim that Clinton “gave away 20 percent of the uranium in the United States” to Russia. ... Jose Fernandez, a former assistant secretary of state, told the New York Times that he represented the department on the committee. “Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any C.F.I.U.S. matter,”

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/what-the-mueller-report-says-about-obstruction/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIruOmjd3v9gIVBVZgCh2ROgv6EAAYASAAEgIl8fD_BwE

Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,  if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.
--it's not that the investigation found no collusion, but that their attempt to find it was obstructed.
It's the Big Lie method--you keep telling it until people start believing it. Just like trump saying he never heard of a burner phone.


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Re: Russia and the Ukraine
« Reply #885 on: April 09, 2022, 01:47:38 am »
Be respectful and yet still call it as you see it.

Let's keep this thread going.

Debate is good. Keep it above the belt.