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  • KoreaBoo
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    • May 25, 2014, 04:00:42 pm
    • Vancouver Island
Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2022, 11:50:46 am »
No medical expenses  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-the-real-cost-of-free-health-care-in-canada-report

In the 1 day since we got our health card, we have seen two cliniques.  Received prescriptions for medications.  Received a referral for bloodwork which will be done tomorrow and scheduled and ultrasound and PET scan.  Did we pay out of pocket?  No.  How long did we wait?  About 15 minutes.


  • 745sticky
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    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #81 on: April 22, 2022, 12:27:53 pm »
destroy any credibility you claim of to have as an authority.

"an authority" on what? hes a moderator on waygook dot org for gods sake. relax


Please know your facts before you speak.  It really damages your credibility.

nobody cares about their online "credibility" other than, well, the terminally online.

why are you taking it so personally anyways? maybe laws have changed since he got that letter, who knows. you seem pretty stressed about it either way


  • Kyndo
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #82 on: April 22, 2022, 01:18:17 pm »
The bolded statement is absolutely incorrect.  I don't know where you got your info, but you would have made better choices in life if you actually went to the source before making statements that destroy any credibility you claim of to have as an authority.
To maintain residency, my wife needs to have stayed in Canada for a total fo 730 days out of 5 years.  Period.
The reference is here (from the gov't itself).    https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=727&top=10
I knew this long before we applied.  What you just spouted in your somewhat condescending tone was completely false.  Your claim of losing it by being out of the country for 2 years is also completely false.  Despite the fact she will return to Korea in a few years, she will have the time in Canada to keep her residency.  The next 5 years will see her here permanently.  Of course, we will travel to and from Korea when on holiday, but we are not concerned with this as time being spent with me outside the country is considered as time in Canada.

Please know your facts before you speak.  It really damages your credibility.

Whoops, yes, flubbed that, apologies (it was a typo, if that helps -- I've posted before that I lived in Japan for nearly three years).   :-[
What it should've read was:  "you automatically lose your permanent residency if you spend more than 3 (not 2) out of the last 5 years out of country."

There was no condescension intended, honest: I wasn't aware of this particular rule until I received a notice in the mail and had to pretty much drop everything and go home. It caused me a *lot* of problems and wouldn't want you to experience the same. Glad you've done your research.

Also, I certainly don't intend to give the impression of being an authority on Canadian immigration law: I posted about my own personal experience, that's all.  :undecided:
« Last Edit: April 22, 2022, 01:21:24 pm by Kyndo »


  • gogators!
  • Waygook Lord

    • 6316

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #83 on: April 22, 2022, 08:19:05 pm »
In the 1 day since we got our health card, we have seen two cliniques.  Received prescriptions for medications.  Received a referral for bloodwork which will be done tomorrow and scheduled and ultrasound and PET scan.  Did we pay out of pocket?  No.  How long did we wait?  About 15 minutes.
that makes sense since Clinique is the #1 prestige beauty brand in the U.S.


  • VanIslander
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #84 on: April 22, 2022, 08:32:42 pm »
BURN!

Get some ointment on that asap at a clinic.
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


  • Sagi Keun
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    • May 10, 2018, 11:47:23 am
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #85 on: April 24, 2022, 01:30:55 am »
This is actually the best market there has ever been for a native teacher. There are not native teachers in this country. You can demand whatever salary you want!

Is that really true.?

Most schools aren't that bothered about paying for quarantine, its no big deal.


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #86 on: April 25, 2022, 09:30:56 am »
In the 1 day since we got our health card, we have seen two cliniques.  Received prescriptions for medications.  Received a referral for bloodwork which will be done tomorrow and scheduled and ultrasound and PET scan.  Did we pay out of pocket?  No.  How long did we wait?  About 15 minutes.

So you concluded that health care is free in Canada. Great!
I just made a phone call and didn't pay a single cent for it. Equally great!

What you just spouted in your somewhat condescending tone was completely false.

Funny that you come with this when your middle name is ''condescending''.


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #87 on: May 04, 2022, 08:01:40 am »
The UK was no.1 (or top 3) for years up until about 3 years ago, which was 9 years after the conservative ruled government started gutting funding for public services (NHS included) and selling parts off to their donors, business partners and friends for pennies on the pound.

Sadly a sizeable hate-filled portion of our gullible at-large population voted for more of this gutting of public assets (amongst other things in the general election of 2019)…and here we are, now 12 going on 13 years of conservative rule, and all we have to show for it is self imposed sanctions, a buckling healthcare system, being on the brink of another recession, and a scandal filled government that would make most banana republics blush.

I never lived in the UK, but heard from quite a few that they also had long waits and shortages like Canada.  To my knowledge the UK and Canada are the only places that 100 % free health care.  The other places that provide it are partially free and with cheap pay for the part you have to pay.  They also still use private hospitals and private insurance as an add on.  (Korea being one of them.)

One of my former co teachers had a friend married to a UK citizen.  Her friend was waiting and waiting and waiting for a surgery in the UK.  Long wait like Canada apparently.  So, she had to throw in the towel and come back to Korea to get the surgery done.  UK was too slow.  My co teacher mentioned this to me as I told her about Canada's system with long waits and doctor shortages.  There isn't enough money to pay for everything and no one wants to admit it.  100% free just isn't sustainable. 
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  • Waygook Lord

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    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #88 on: May 04, 2022, 08:26:32 am »
100% free just isn't sustainable. 
What type of private health insurance do you have?


  • hangook77
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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #89 on: May 04, 2022, 09:56:59 am »
What type of private health insurance do you have?

I have the Korean government coverage.  What do you have?  Have you used the Canadian or UK insurance system?  Have you had massive shortages?  Korean health care is better. 
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  • pkjh
  • The Legend

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    • May 02, 2012, 02:59:44 pm
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #90 on: May 04, 2022, 12:17:25 pm »
I have the Korean government coverage.  What do you have?  Have you used the Canadian or UK insurance system?  Have you had massive shortages?  Korean health care is better. 
You do realize the Korean system isn't 100% covered, and a lot of poorer Koreans do forego important surgeries because of it.

Anyways, my family's experience with the Canadian health system is above average. My father has had 2 heart attacks, one of them requiring double by-pass surgery. In both cases the experience was excellent. However, he also had to have some kind eye surgery, it lasted like 10 seconds. But he had to wait 16 months for it since he was retired, he wasn't put up in the queue. That I'd rate average, since it didn't cost anything out of pocket.


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  • Waygook Lord

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    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #91 on: May 04, 2022, 02:31:29 pm »
Since we're dealing in anecdotes, what I've heard about the NHS is that many are pleasantly surprised with the healthcare they receive since there's so much negative press.

And a guy I was cycling with this Sunday was asking a friend in a Mayo Clinic MS team jersey how he could get an appointment there. He was new to the area and when he called for an appointment, they said they weren't taking any new patients.


  • VanIslander
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #92 on: May 09, 2022, 12:47:30 pm »
I remember saying in science class that the time to digest food (transitive time) can be about 36 hours because I have gone through corn in that time - having not consumed it for months before, and the identity of the corn being beyond reproach. (I said it more bluntly than that.) ... And a girl in the class insisted THAT IS NOT TRUE! because of a "fact" a teacher had told her before about a significantly longer transit time. She insisted. So, I was lying? My experience was entirely dismissed.

In the academic discipline of history - as well as the philosophy of science - there is research on the denial of exceptions, on the rejection of what doesn't fit the narrative, until a new theory takes hold (e.g., Kuhn's revolutions).

Groupthink at every level.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2022, 12:50:27 pm by VanIslander »
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  • Kyndo
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #93 on: May 10, 2022, 03:21:36 pm »
Deleted some off topic arguments, sent out some warnings.
Remember: post not poster bla bla bla.


  • Bakeacake
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    • July 12, 2010, 01:35:40 pm
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #94 on: May 10, 2022, 05:10:20 pm »
if you arent a fan of the current teaching market...  i know Uleung-do pays more because of its horrible location.  Its just a short fairy to get to pohang. and for locals of Uleung-do its only like 5,000 won i think.


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #95 on: May 11, 2022, 01:39:19 pm »
Since we're dealing in anecdotes, what I've heard about the NHS is that many are pleasantly surprised with the healthcare they receive since there's so much negative press.

And a guy I was cycling with this Sunday was asking a friend in a Mayo Clinic MS team jersey how he could get an appointment there. He was new to the area and when he called for an appointment, they said they weren't taking any new patients.

I heard Obamacare ruined health care in the US.  Made more waiting lists doctor shortages drove up costs etc. 

US should give some small cash to the States and let them set up their own partial health care system something like Korea.  Still private with some public care, but rein in prices and everyone getting their "cut" along the way.  Don't look to Canada or the UK as your model.
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  • hangook77
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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #96 on: May 11, 2022, 01:40:45 pm »
if you arent a fan of the current teaching market...  i know Uleung-do pays more because of its horrible location.  Its just a short fairy to get to pohang. and for locals of Uleung-do its only like 5,000 won i think.

Depends on how much more.  Like total pay package over 4 million won a month?  I may apply there next year if that's the case.  About what I made several years ago with inflation factored in with 2022 money. 
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  • Renma
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    • September 01, 2014, 06:09:42 am
Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #97 on: May 11, 2022, 02:03:03 pm »
Depends on how much more.  Like total pay package over 4 million won a month?  I may apply there next year if that's the case.  About what I made several years ago with inflation factored in with 2022 money. 

I think it's an extra 500k salary, and a 500k housing allowance (instead of 400k). However, being a Gyeongbuk EPIK position, I think you would start at a lower tier of the EPIK payscale (2+?) if you transferred in from a different province. They also prefer couples to apply (though I believe you can apply with just a friend as well). I don't think they accept lone applicants. I may be wrong on a couple of details however.

edit: I think the salary is 700k  extra, plus base EPIK and travel allowance.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2022, 02:06:11 pm by Renma »


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #98 on: May 11, 2022, 02:08:00 pm »
I think it's an extra 500k salary, and a 500k housing allowance (instead of 400k). However, being a Gyeongbuk EPIK position, I think you would start at a lower tier of the EPIK payscale (2+?) if you transferred in from a different province. They also prefer couples to apply (though I believe you can apply with just a friend as well). I don't think they accept lone applicants. I may be wrong on a couple of details however.

edit: I think the salary is 700k  extra, plus base EPIK and travel allowance.

No, they'd have to hire me as a level 1 and help me get a nice place or renovate or build a decent place on the island or no dice. 
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Re: Is this the worst the market has ever been?
« Reply #99 on: May 11, 2022, 02:13:52 pm »
or build a decent place on the island
You want them to BUILD you a place to stay? hahahahahaha