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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #440 on: May 13, 2022, 10:47:54 pm »
Half a million homeless. Twenty two million millionaires. That's 44 to 1.

Its called growing wealth disparity.

American cities are full of homeless people and crime. Unlike Russian cities.

But to get back to the issue of Americas war crimes.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g9R5uueWzw

Secret American Death Squad "bombed civilians at will"
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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #441 on: May 14, 2022, 12:02:23 am »
This is some real rapier swinging, Gerard.


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #442 on: May 14, 2022, 12:37:25 am »
We often hear:

“Why is the US giving foreign aid when there are homeless within its borders? Take care of your own country before worrying about other countries.”

US has given $54 Billion to pumping weapons into Ukraine since February. It is a ludicrous amount.

You don't seem to possess any perspective here, but let me help you out.

US$ 54 Billion -in 3 months- is more than they spent on the war in Afghanistan per year. Its more than Russia spends on its armed forces in one year.

Meanwhile back in the uS, the economy is on the verge of crashing thanks to the sanctions they threw at Russia boomeranging, American infrastructure is crumbling, numerous Americans are homeless, and people are paying out of pocket at the gas pumps.

But all the US govt cares about is making war in Ukraine. They hate Russia so much for being independent that they are willing to exhaust their own economy just to wear down Moscow. They don't care about Americans obviously. They care about their vanity project thousands of miles away. Their vanity project, as ever, being trying to take over the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrZdij-3MWQ


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #443 on: May 14, 2022, 02:14:51 am »
Half a million homeless. Twenty two million millionaires. That's 44 to 1.

About one in five hundred Americans are homeless. Most are mentally ill and/or drug addicted. They've burned all bridges. How to help them? Not sure, but giving them more and more cash isn't the answer; they'll waste it.

A TV crew gave $100,000 to a homeless man. Within months it was all gone and he was back on the streets.

Howard Stern gave $10,000. The homeless guy bought a drum set and went to Vegas. A month later, he was once again penniless.

A woman interviewed for a Wall Street Journal article said it's a commonly believed myth that the homeless are normal people like me or you who have just fallen on hard times. Her job is helping the homeless and she sees only one or two a year who are neither mentally ill nor drug addicted. These are the easiest to help and these are the ones who stay homeless for the least amount of time.
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We often hear:

“Why is the US giving foreign aid when there are homeless within its borders? Take care of your own country before worrying about other countries.”

The number of homeless can never be brought down to zero. Good deeds in any area should be welcomed. About befriending autocrats like Putin, Xi, and Kim Jeong Un, it seldom ends well. Best to incentivize them to do good and disincentivize them from doing harm.
No doubt they picked homeless folks who would prove (their) your point. Giving anyone a wad of cash is generally a bad idea. Look how many lottery winners have gone bust.

It's easy to write off the homeless. I wonder how many people the right-wing WSJ interviewed to find that woman. I'd also question her assertion given how many people are currently being forced on to the street by rents that are increasing by as much as 30%.

A better idea is a small, guaranteed income and a way for the homeless to establish a fixed address, since one is usually needed to get a job.

And let's not forget the 55 million Americans living in poverty.


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #444 on: May 14, 2022, 02:30:09 am »
American infrastructure is crumbling, numerous Americans are homeless, and people are paying out of pocket at the gas pumps.

Gas price per gallon:

Australia: $5.38
Canada: $5.94
Ireland: $7.95
New Zealand: $7.32
South Africa: $5.00
South Korea: $5.80
United Kingdom: $8.06
United States: $4.69
World Average: $5.06

TL; DR - American gas prices are below the world average.


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #445 on: May 14, 2022, 02:32:18 am »
How exactly is "colonialism is bad", "invasion is wrong" "racism is wrong" "massacring civilians is wrong" wokeness?

Isn't that basic morality?

Again, no one is saying they were worse than the Nazis, just that they did those things too. What they didn't do was industrialized genocide and that is why they aren't as evil.

Also, you still haven't answered the question- Why is it "one-sided" to talk about the bad things Great Britain did" but it isn't "one-sided" to just talk about the bad things the Nazis did? Do you agree that if we talk about the good things the British Empire did or the good parts of Churchill, that we should also talk about the good things the Nazis did and the good parts of Hitler?
Basically because it provides neo-nazis cover and selling points.

Churchill had his moment and made the most of it. That, and his painting, drinking and witticisms, is what he's remembered for.  Great cover for his feet of clay.


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #446 on: May 14, 2022, 02:34:02 am »
Gas price per gallon:

Australia: $5.38
Canada: $5.94
Ireland: $7.95
New Zealand: $7.32
South Africa: $5.00
South Korea: $5.80
United Kingdom: $8.06
United States: $4.69
World Average: $5.06

TL; DR - American gas prices are below the world average.

But which country's citizens drive the most miles on average? Which ones shed the most crocodile tears about high gas prices while they sit in their over-sized SUVs and pickup trucks?


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #447 on: May 14, 2022, 02:53:23 am »
Sure, but the British troll Soggy was roasting the United States for having high gas prices. Puts things in perspective, no?


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #448 on: May 14, 2022, 03:18:06 am »
It's not a nice word, I can tell you that.

What is the meaning? I searched with 뜻; nothing came up. Is it a word you invented, a pun?


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #449 on: May 14, 2022, 04:24:53 am »
No doubt they picked homeless folks who would prove (their) your point.

Actually, the opposite. The TV show searched for a homeless person most likely to succeed. He didn't. Picking someone off the streets at random equates to a high chance they'll be dead the next day from a drug overdose following the $100,000 windfall. Unlimited crack, unlimited meth, unlimited heroin equals huge danger.

In the case of Howard Stern, the smartest homeless person got the money by winning a Jeopardy game. The questions were easy. "Who was the first US president?" No one knew. "In Germany, the swastika was the symbol of what political party?" No one knew. "What is one hundred divided by ten?" No one knew. The last question was "What is five times six?" Two got it wrong; one got it right. They all had negative points on the scoreboard. The person with negative one thousand got the $10,000 prize.
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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #450 on: May 14, 2022, 04:35:41 am »
Actually, the opposite. The TV show searched for a homeless person most likely to succeed. He didn't. Picking someone off the streets at random equates to a high chance they'll be dead the next day from a drug overdose following the $100,000 windfall. Unlimited crack, unlimited meth, unlimited heroin equals huge danger.

In the case of Howard Stern, the smartest homeless person got the money by winning a Jeopardy game. The questions were easy. "Who was the first US president?" No one knew. "In Germany, the swastika was the symbol of what political party?" No one knew. The last question was "What is five times six?" Two got it wrong; one got it right. They all had negative points on the scoreboard. The person with negative one thousand got the $10,000 prize.
Not buying it.

A homeless Detroit man bought an abandoned house for $1,500 and spent 10 years renovating it for his wife. Here's how he did it - and what it looks like now. https://www.businessinsider.in/slideshows/miscellaneous/a-homeless-detroit-man-bought-an-abandoned-house-for-1500-and-spent-10-years-renovating-it-for-his-wife-heres-how-he-did-it-and-what-it-looks-like-now-/slidelist/71945600.cms

PHILADELPHIA -- A homeless man who used his last $20 to fill up the gas tank of a stranded motorist in Philadelphia has bought a home with some of the nearly $400,000 raised for him by the woman he saved.

Johnny Bobbitt Jr. says on his GoFundMe page that he bought a home over the weekend. The fundraiser has raised more than $397,000.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/johnny-bobbitt-buys-home-fundraiser/

 A Nashville man who has been a vendor selling  a non-profit paper on homelessness for over five years and, during that time, has saved almost every dollar he made.

Mario Martinez hasn’t owned a home in six years. But last week, he closed on a house.
https://www.wjhl.com/news/homeless-nashville-man-buys-house-after-selling-papers-for-five-years/

Five years ago, Isaiah Caffaro was 16 and homeless. At night, he’d often sleep at a playground in Young Park — all of his earthly belongings piled upon him so that he’d quickly wake up if anyone tried to steal them during the night.

Last month, shortly after his 21st birthday, he signed the closing papers on his first home.
https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/2022/01/12/homeless-homeowner-las-cruces-man-buys-first-home/9176938002/


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #451 on: May 14, 2022, 04:49:15 am »
Not buying it.

Not buying it? It was recorded. It happened. Before I just read about it in YouTube comments. Watching now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuBHUP1HPu8


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #452 on: May 14, 2022, 07:17:04 am »
A homeless man who used his last $20 to fill up the gas tank of a stranded motorist in Philadelphia has bought a home with some of the nearly $400,000 raised for him by the woman he saved.

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D'Amico, his girlfriend Katelyn McClure and homeless veteran Johnny Bobbitt Jr. came up with a feel-good story about how the vet gave $20 to help McClure after she ran out of gas in Philadelphia.

The story initially captured the hearts of people around the world and they used the lie to raise $400,000 in online donations.


https://abc11.com/homeless-man-gofundme-scam-mark-damico-katelyn-mcclure-johnny-bobbitt-jr/11701207/

Court documents revealed that almost no part of their story was true and that the couple spent large chunks of the money in a matter of months on lavish casino trips and a BMW.

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TL;DR - The homeless drug addict never gave $20. (All three were in on the con.) He spent thousands upon thousands of the money raised. The couple spent thousands upon thousands of the money raised. Within months, he was homeless again, back on the streets.


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #453 on: May 14, 2022, 07:49:45 am »
US has given $54 Billion to pumping weapons into Ukraine since February. It is a ludicrous amount.

You don't seem to possess any perspective here, but let me help you out.

US$ 54 Billion -in 3 months- is more than they spent on the war in Afghanistan per year. Its more than Russia spends on its armed forces in one year.

Is it $54 billion in aid? I googled that number; nothing came up. Much of the aid is humanitarian, not just military. Two trillion spent over a twenty year period is $100 million a year. Russia's military budget is $66 billion a year.


Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #454 on: May 14, 2022, 01:19:11 pm »
Basically because it provides neo-nazis cover and selling points.
Only to people who struggle with logical fallacies and critical thinking.

If you think pointing out negative things about Churchill/British Empire in evaluating whether they were "good" (NOT as a justification for Nazi acts) gives cover to Neo-Nazis, it's because you suck at logic and critical thinking.

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Churchill had his moment and made the most of it. That, and his painting, drinking and witticisms, is what he's remembered for.  Great cover for his feet of clay.
I think overseeing a colonial empire is more significant than painting and booze.

Same with his counterpart and his painting and vegetarianism.


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #455 on: May 14, 2022, 01:47:48 pm »
Churchill had his good moments and his bad moments. But he wasn't evil.

The British Empire did a lot of good things and a lot of awful things, some of which could be considered evil.


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #456 on: May 14, 2022, 02:04:23 pm »
Congratulations to Putin for his help in expanding NATO. Ukraine joining seems a long way off but NATO will soon be welcoming Finland and Sweden.


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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #457 on: May 14, 2022, 06:32:41 pm »
Is it $54 billion in aid? I googled that number; nothing came up. Much of the aid is humanitarian, not just military. Two trillion spent over a twenty year period is $100 million a year. Russia's military budget is $66 billion a year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhDfMfV7Zf0&t=349s

@ 1:55 

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Ukraine is now the top recipient of US military aid, surpassing even Israel and Egypt.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/biden-ukraine-military-aid-us/

America is so obsessed with Russia that they are prepared to doom their own economy.

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Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #458 on: May 14, 2022, 06:36:11 pm »
Not buying it? It was recorded. It happened. Before I just read about it in YouTube comments. Watching now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuBHUP1HPu8

I'm not buying that Stern was sincere. It's entertainment.


Re: The Ukraine War
« Reply #459 on: May 16, 2022, 12:19:38 pm »
Churchill had his good moments and his bad moments. But he wasn't evil.

The British Empire did a lot of good things and a lot of awful things, some of which could be considered evil.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220324125634/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html
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But when they defied this script, Churchill demanded they be crushed with extreme force. As Colonial Secretary in the 1920s, he unleashed the notorious Black and Tan thugs on Ireland’s Catholic civilians, and when the Kurds rebelled against British rule, he said: “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes...[It] would spread a lively terror.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/02/03/the-dark-side-of-winston-churchills-legacy-no-one-should-forget/
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Contemplating restive populations in northwest Asia, he infamously lamented the "squeamishness" of his colleagues, who were not in "favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes."

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Churchill was one of a coterie of imperial rulers who worked to create sectarian fissures within India's independence movement between Indian Hindus and Muslims, which led to the brutal partition of India when the former colony finally did win its freedom in 1947.

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Most notoriously, Churchill presided over the hideous 1943 famine in Bengal, where some 3 million Indians perished, largely as a result of British imperial mismanagement. Churchill was both indifferent to the Indian plight and even mocked the millions suffering, chuckling over the culling of a population that bred "like rabbits."

No, that's f*cking evil.

Our less evil SOBs beat their more evil SOBs.