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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2022, 11:48:17 am »
Good point! But don't forget the Taiwanese government's autocratic past.
But the Australian government's past is fine because they speak English and some fellow NETs come from there.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2022, 01:10:41 pm »
Well fair enough, but if that's the case why would a fit healthy young stud like yourself bother with CORBEVAX though? I'm assuming your cousin was a 20 something gym junkie like yourself who didn't need vaccinating. 

I am not going to bother with it.  (I just saw this now.) 

I had omicron in March myself.  But it was no big deal.  Vaccinated and unvaccinated alike seem to have the same mild symptoms.  Alpha, Delta, and the like were definitely to be avoided.  Some family had it back home before the media announced it (late 2019 and early 2020).  But the symptoms matched covid at that time.  3 weeks sicker than they had been in their whole lives. 


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2022, 06:55:03 pm »
Notice how none of these articles compare France, Germany or Belgium to Australia?

That's how you can tell it's just rubbish and is only trying to make a political point. But it tricks gullible dimwits, so it hence why it exists.
So 1 million dead Americans is a trick. Some trick.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2022, 06:57:19 pm »
But the Australian government's past is fine because they speak English and some fellow NETs come from there.
You're really stretching, armstrong.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2022, 08:40:48 pm »
I am not going to bother with it.  (I just saw this now.) 

I had omicron in March myself.  But it was no big deal.  Vaccinated and unvaccinated alike seem to have the same mild symptoms.  Alpha, Delta, and the like were definitely to be avoided.  Some family had it back home before the media announced it (late 2019 and early 2020).  But the symptoms matched covid at that time.  3 weeks sicker than they had been in their whole lives. 
It's a good thing you didn't bother with it!  :laugh:


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2022, 11:48:48 pm »
It's a good thing you didn't bother with it!  :laugh:

Yeah, made no difference vaccine or not.  Everyone got omicron. 


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2022, 02:37:18 am »
This year in America 42% of those who died were vaccinated. 58% were unvaccinated Two thirds were 75+.

Three in four children have had Covid at least once. For the population as a whole, three in five.

Of the 200 million who got Covid, almost all ended up ok.

Takeaway - get vaccines to the elderly - the 65+ crowd. Give them a fourth, fifth, and sixth dose when immunity wanes.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2022, 04:20:16 am »
This year in America 42% of those who died were vaccinated. 58% were unvaccinated Two thirds were 75+.

Three in four children have had Covid at least once. For the population as a whole, three in five.

Of the 200 million who got Covid, almost all ended up ok.

Takeaway - get vaccines to the elderly - the 65+ crowd. Give them a fourth, fifth, and sixth dose when immunity wanes.
How about a link or two?


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2022, 05:08:54 am »
CDC stats. Feel free to fact check using Google if you池e skeptical.
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Now I知 reading the Wall Street Journal:

鄭bout 80% of Americans who have died of Covid-19 are older than 65, and the median age is 80.
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典hose over 75 make up about two-thirds of deaths while those younger than 45 make up less than 2%.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2022, 05:14:19 am »
Blood samples show three in four American children have had COVID

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101017904


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2022, 05:18:19 am »
Covid deaths no longer overwhelmingly among unvaccinated as toll on elderly grows

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/04/29/covid-deaths-unvaccinated-boosters/



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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2022, 05:22:03 am »
If we understand the problem, we can better solve it. Covid disproportionately impacts the elderly. Knowing this, the best way to reduce deaths is to get vaccinations and boosters to the elderly. And encourage healthy living for this population especially.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2022, 09:17:55 pm »
20% of one million means 200,000 persons younger than 65 who have died from Covid-19.

Why do you constantly seek to diminish or dismiss the risks of Covid-19? Why do you trivialize the deaths of so many? You're like those people who when told someone has died of Covid-19 immediately ask their age and if they had any comorbidities. Are you trying to reassure yourself?

As for understanding the problem, the main problem was that too many just wanted to ignore the problem. That morphed into conspiracy theorists and the like.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2022, 05:39:50 am »
Interesting study on long Covid:

"A major new study released today has yielded some striking findings about long Covid and its serious impact.

Researchers analyzed the largest database of private health insurance claims in the U.S. The study found that 78,252 patients were diagnosed with the medical diagnostic code for long Covid from October 2021 through January 2022.

One expert said that the number was huge, given that the study covered only the first four months after the diagnostic code U09.9 was introduced. The research was conducted by FAIR Health, a nonprofit organization that focuses on health care costs and insurance issues. The study also did not include people covered by government health programs like Medicaid or Medicare.

The study found that for 76 percent of the long Covid patients, the initial infection did not make them sick enough to require hospitalization.
While two-thirds of the patients had pre-existing health conditions in their medical records, nearly a third did not, a much larger percentage than some experts expected.
Nearly 35 percent of the patients were between the ages of 36 and 50, while nearly one-third were ages 51 to 64, and 17 percent were ages 23 to 35. (Six percent of the patients were 65 and older, a proportion that most likely reflects the fact that patients covered by the regular Medicare program weren稚 included in the study.)
Children were also diagnosed: Nearly 4 percent of the long Covid patients were 12 or younger, while nearly 7 percent were between ages 13 and 22.
On average, patients were still experiencing long Covid symptoms that qualified for the diagnosis including breathing problems, coughing, fatigue and hypertension four and a half months after their infection.
The study, which captured only a privately insured population, almost certainly understates the scope and burden of long Covid, especially since low-income communities have been disproportionately affected by the virus and often have less access to health care."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/18/health/long-covid-hospitalization.html?campaign_id=154&emc=edit_cb_20220518&instance_id=61760&nl=coronavirus-briefing&regi_id=85512362&segment_id=92679&te=1&user_id=b358bae87ac1653a6780159839a92331


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2022, 06:39:47 am »
What percentage of people who get Covid end up with long Covid? That痴 something articles don稚 say. I don稚 know a single person who got long Covid. Do you? Are people claiming it to get disability benefits and unemployment checks - free money for not working? That痴 at least some of the cases.

The more healthy a person is, the less likely they are to die. Or get sick. Or be sick long term. But rates of exercise went down during the pandemic. Rates of obesity went up.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2022, 07:39:07 am »
Are people claiming it to get disability benefits and unemployment checks - free money for not working? That痴 at least some of the cases.

How many people do you know claiming they have long covid in order to get "free money for not working"? I don't know any.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2022, 07:57:27 am »
Illegal actions aren稚 announced to you?

I知 shocked, Biff.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2022, 08:44:24 am »
Illegal actions aren稚 announced to you?

I知 shocked, Biff.

So you know as many people with long covid as you do people claiming to have long covid for "free money"?

I just want to make sure I have it right. If I don't know anyone with long covid it can't be a thing. Therefore, it is made up so that people can claim disability benefits?
« Last Edit: May 19, 2022, 08:47:15 am by D.L.Orean »


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2022, 08:51:09 am »
Pretty sure you and others reading this know a hell of a lot of people who got Covid and none who have long Covid. It痴 not common.

Sucks for the very few who get it. How to reduce the risk? Live healthier and get vaccinated.


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Re: New COVID vaccine that could be a game changer.
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2022, 08:53:29 am »
Pretty sure you and others reading this know a hell of a lot of people who got Covid and none who have long Covid. It痴 not common.

Any idea how much money is being lost to fraudulent claims of long covid?