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  • Sagi Keun
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Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« on: January 01, 2022, 04:36:48 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7i8Yexe2qg

Couldn't they just tazer the guy?


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2022, 06:44:10 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7i8Yexe2qg

Couldn't they just tazer the guy?
Or charge him with riot shields.

In the U.S. he probably would've been shot when he lunged at the first cop, especially if the guy with the knife was black.


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2022, 08:26:16 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7i8Yexe2qg

Couldn't they just tazer the guy?
I thought they handled the situation extremely well but perhaps you could explain how the use of a tazer would have improved the outcome? I get it out how it would've been a challenge for those who enjoy more than their fair share of Crusty Cremes!


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2022, 08:49:17 pm »
This might not be a popular opinion, but once you start waving a knife at random people, you forgive your right to leave the situation alive.

What I'm NOT saying is shoot first, ask questions later but I always hear people say

"Wow, I can't believe they shot him."

Yes, you can. Don't be an idiot.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2022, 10:01:47 pm by CO2 »


  • Sagi Keun
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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2022, 09:26:09 pm »
perhaps you could explain how the use of a tazer would have improved the outcome?

similar situation in the US.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eZP77eCkXw

Over in seconds.

In the Korea vid at 2:07 an officer gets slashed in the face, or nearly so, taking unnecessary risks.


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2022, 09:45:46 pm »
US cops would not handle the situation in the same way for good reason. It's actually very foolish to approach someone who can mortally wound you in two seconds or less and try to hit them with your baton.


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2022, 11:35:22 pm »
I like the way the fat guy in the second video calmly informs his companion that they need to exit the vicinity. I wonder if the knife wielder was trying to commit suicide by cop.


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2022, 10:02:35 am »
This might not be a popular opinion, but once you start waving a knife at random people, you forgive your right to leave the situation alive.

What I'm NOT saying is shoot first, ask questions later but I always hear people say

"Wow, I can't believe they shot him."

Yes, you can. Don't be an idiot.

Should mental illness be a death sentence?


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2022, 10:28:24 am »
similar situation in the US.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eZP77eCkXw

Over in seconds.

In the Korea vid at 2:07 an officer gets slashed in the face, or nearly so, taking unnecessary risks.


I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. In your example the potential assailant seemed rather passive in comparison but was still put at risk of severe injury as his head made contact with the ground, aside from the other risks associated with tasers. I don't think there is so much to be learnt in terms of police best practice from the United States. My apologies if you find this offensive.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/struck-taser-affects-human-body/story?id=55503687

Should mental illness be a death sentence?
Yes, apparently.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2022, 10:46:14 am by Adel »


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2022, 11:03:44 am »
US police learn the 21 Foot Rule: an attacker armed with a knife can cover a distance of about 21 feet in 1.5 seconds. At close range, an officer may not have time to draw his weapon and fire before being stabbed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h0-q_IJbxE

The Korean police officers were much closer than 21 feet in the video and most of them were only armed with baton-like weapons which didn't seem to have much effect. 

The gangster's face was blurred out. I guess the media is afraid of being sued for defamation.



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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2022, 11:25:14 am »
What is the story about the guy with the knife and bag? What was in the bag? Drugs? Something stolen? He could fight well. Very tough. Maybe a real gangster / career criminal?


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2022, 11:38:08 am »
US police learn the 21 Foot Rule: an attacker armed with a knife can cover a distance of about 21 feet in 1.5 seconds. At close range, an officer may not have time to draw his weapon and fire before being stabbed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h0-q_IJbxE

The Korean police officers were much closer than 21 feet in the video and most of them were only armed with baton-like weapons which didn't seem to have much effect. 

The gangster's face was blurred out. I guess the media is afraid of being sued for defamation.



But what’s the minimum distance to shoot an unarmed black man?


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2022, 11:50:55 am »
Hardly any unarmed black men are shot. It's extremely rare. When it does happen, it's something like an attack then struggle to take the cop's gun. A gun mistaken for a taser could be fired. But more often, criminals shoot and kill police. There are dangerous people in the world. True psychopaths with no remorse or concern for others.


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2022, 11:57:47 am »
The Korean police in the video handled the situation well.

In Korea, there are less criminals and those criminals are less dangerous because of reduced access to guns.

Why does the US - well, the US and South America - have more criminals and murderers among the civilian populace than Asia?

In my opinion, out of wedlock births is a big factor.

What do you think is the cause / causes?


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2022, 12:01:07 pm »
I think they didn’t watch enough Jordan Peterson videos about male empowerment.  Also, piss poor US gun laws and America’s love of guns.


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2022, 12:07:46 pm »
Fortunately… even with America’s hood ghettos… the murder rate is very low statistically speaking. The odds of being murdered by a gun is so uncommon it won’t happen. It’s like worrying about dying from coronavirus as a young person. Did you know most American gun violence is suicide? I bet you didn’t.


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2022, 12:20:52 pm »
I think they didn’t watch enough Jordan Peterson videos about male empowerment.

Kids without a father would benefit from father figures. Men are more stoic on average, women more emotional. It’s important for a kid to get both. Children raised in two parent homes tend to turn out better research shows.


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2022, 12:21:52 pm »
Knives are classified as a deadly weapon. They can end your life
very easily.

Seems to me in this video the police didn't act in concert. They should
have attacked all at the same time. The ranking officer should have
been coordinating the take-down.

A taser would have worked. Also those been bag shotguns. From
that range it would have been like getting drop kicked in the chest.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2022, 01:39:40 pm by SPQR »


  • Adel
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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2022, 01:18:15 pm »
Bruce Lee didn't need 21 feet!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=23gNbr4NAvo
 :laugh:


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Re: Police disarm knife-wielding gangster.
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2022, 02:15:40 pm »
Should mental illness be a death sentence?

No, but if it's "some guy having an episode" or "anyone else ever" then it's the guy having the episode.

I'm not sacrificing my life or the life of my loved one's on the pyre of mental illness, sorry.

I said it shouldn't be the first/only option but some people always act surprised when people with knives get shot.

Really? You were surprised? No one is saying they deserve to die, but don't be shocked when they do. A knife to your chest has an insanely high fatality rate.