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  • hangook77
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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #120 on: May 09, 2022, 01:27:42 pm »
Actually, given this is the best spring weather in years that isn't too polluted or dusty, etc - nor too hot with early humidity, I'd say the attitude towards Korea is better this year.  That and coming off a 4 day holiday which was great to get out and explore.  Now, if only Korean weather and conditions were like this more often..... 

« Last Edit: May 09, 2022, 01:30:47 pm by hangook77 »
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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #121 on: May 09, 2022, 01:32:40 pm »
Don't get me started on Walmarts in Korea.  When I first moved to Anyang and learned there was a Walmart at Pyeongcheon Station I was excited.  Until I went.  It was nothing like a Walmart in Canada, let alone the states. 

Now that is going back.  They just were leaving as I was coming in.  I never got to visit one as they were only in a couple of big cities.  That and a French chain too.  I heard the French chain made good bread or something and then sold it to a Korean outfit, they changed the name and immediately started making crappy bread?  Carefour or something like that? 
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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #122 on: May 09, 2022, 01:39:01 pm »
Now that is going back.  They just were leaving as I was coming in.  I never got to visit one as they were only in a couple of big cities.  That and a French chain too.  I heard the French chain made good bread or something and then sold it to a Korean outfit, they changed the name and immediately started making crappy bread?  Carefour or something like that?

Yeah, the Carrefours were much better than the Walmarts for foreigners.  Home Plus/Tesco was better as well.  Carrefour used to carry things like taco kits and a French products like Coq au Vin.  Carrefours became Homevers and those got taken over by Home Plus. 


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #123 on: May 09, 2022, 03:12:57 pm »
The sky has been stellar clear this spring, the best or near it the last 20 years.

The temp is officially the 2nd warmest ever recorded for April, with Vancouver-like summer days of 20-22 C, with a breeze and a few clouds. Heck, it is like Auckland, New Zealand in summer!
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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #124 on: May 09, 2022, 03:28:29 pm »
Thanks to Chinese lockdowns and people within Korea traveling less due to coronavirus fears, air pollution is lower than it's been in years. The Korean government has been being more environmentally friendly, too, from what they are saying. Good news! Itís a beautiful day. Blue skies!


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #125 on: May 10, 2022, 01:33:23 pm »
Canadians of a certain age will remember these great stores.


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #126 on: May 10, 2022, 01:35:16 pm »
Canadians of a certain age will remember these great stores.
not to mention Zellers!


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #127 on: May 10, 2022, 01:48:49 pm »
Canadians of a certain age will remember these great stores.

I think there are still a handful around in the U.S.  What about Woolco?  That was another place I'd do my Christmas shopping in Canada as a kid as well as at my favourite, Consumers Distributing. 


Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #128 on: May 10, 2022, 01:50:34 pm »
Look, I was a kid once, too but are we trying to tell ourselves that Kmart and Zellers were GREAT stores? Why?

Kids these days will never know the boundless pleasure of going to.............. Kmart?


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #129 on: May 10, 2022, 02:03:43 pm »
zellers was just a different walmart in my opinion.  but they had a fantastic diner within the store. always went for lunch and shake with my grandparents.  perhaps its the nostalgia. when they closed out the store in my town, everything was insanely discounted to clear it out.  I got a bike for less than $10.  it was 75% off,  then that particular day they took an additional 90% off.


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #130 on: May 10, 2022, 02:18:12 pm »
Look, I was a kid once, too but are we trying to tell ourselves that Kmart and Zellers were GREAT stores? Why?

Kids these days will never know the boundless pleasure of going to.............. Kmart?

I'm sure ten year olds  today could happily kill a few hours in a big Walmart.  For me as a kid I'd hang around Eaton's and Simpson's.  Both gone now.  But, Consumer's Distributing was unique.  You could go through the catalog and figure out what you wanted and then head down to the store, fill in the card and wait for them to go bring it out from the back.  They were well poised to adapt to online sales with their model of service. No sales staff.  Don't know how they ended up folding. 

Now, kids today will never know the boundless pleasure of going to a good record store.  Or a good book store in a lot of places.  Two things that, for me, the digital online world has not been able to replace satisfactorily. 


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #131 on: May 11, 2022, 06:45:35 am »
If you bought any clothes even shoes from Zellers it was obvious and was considered trash. I dunno why but in the late 1980's it was true. I did buy batteries and socks from there.

It was like the MADEINCHINA attempt to be quality. Everything there seemed a bit too low quality or a bit too cheap, or both.

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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #132 on: May 11, 2022, 07:04:06 am »
I'm sure ten year olds  today could happily kill a few hours in a big Walmart.  For me as a kid I'd hang around Eaton's and Simpson's.  Both gone now.  But, Consumer's Distributing was unique.  You could go through the catalog and figure out what you wanted and then head down to the store, fill in the card and wait for them to go bring it out from the back.  They were well poised to adapt to online sales with their model of service. No sales staff.  Don't know how they ended up folding. 

Now, kids today will never know the boundless pleasure of going to a good record store.  Or a good book store in a lot of places.  Two things that, for me, the digital online world has not been able to replace satisfactorily. 

I remember all those:

Eaton's
Simpson's
K-Mart
Sears
Radio Shack
Zellers
Consumers Distributing

I worked on the loading dock at Sears Victoria during uni. We had
great fun. I am pretty sure Sears Victoria is gone now. Radio Shack
was also great. We would browse there and gawk at all the base
CB radios we couldn't afford. Then if we wanted to buy anything
we would have to give our name and address. (123 ABC St.)
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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #133 on: May 11, 2022, 07:51:09 am »
If you bought any clothes even shoes from Zellers it was obvious and was considered trash. I dunno why but in the late 1980's it was true. I did buy batteries and socks from there.

It was like the MADEINCHINA attempt to be quality. Everything there seemed a bit too low quality or a bit too cheap, or both.

Zellers and K-Mart were well known as cheap and lower quality places to shop.  No one wanted their parents to take them clothes shopping at a Zellers or K-Mart once they were an adolescent.  They didn't generally carry popular brands but had their own lines that usually had some has been celebrity or athlete as a partner. 


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #134 on: May 11, 2022, 09:55:03 am »
Zellers and K-Mart were well known as cheap and lower quality places to shop.  No one wanted their parents to take them clothes shopping at a Zellers or K-Mart once they were an adolescent.  They didn't generally carry popular brands but had their own lines that usually had some has been celebrity or athlete as a partner. 
I remember Zellers, and K-Mart, had the cheaper orange tab Levis. My mother bought me a pair for junior high, wore it the fist day, and never wore them again. All those snide comments about being poor was too much for an insecure teen to take on the first day.


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #135 on: May 11, 2022, 11:09:08 am »
"$1.49 Tuesdays, $1.49 day Woodwards!"

I did inventory counts there twice during uni. Easy weekend money.
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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #136 on: May 11, 2022, 11:37:38 am »
I remember Zellers, and K-Mart, had the cheaper orange tab Levis. My mother bought me a pair for junior high, wore it the fist day, and never wore them again. All those snide comments about being poor was too much for an insecure teen to take on the first day.

Oh, yeah.  The dreaded orange tabs.  That was a big deal. 


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #137 on: May 11, 2022, 01:54:26 pm »
Oh, yeah.  The dreaded orange tabs.  That was a big deal. 

Fortunately, I was in a poorer area for a season after my parents were divorced.  No one cared about orange tabs until gr 9 and high school.  Funny, I went to the US on some bus trip to this large Christian rock campground festival in Pennsylvania and saw plenty of Americans wearing orange tab.  I guess it was no stigma to them.  But, I think Levis are always cheaper quality and a cheaper jean to them anyways.  The Canadian red tabs and Korean ones seemed to have a thicker denim and higher quality but you paid a higher price.  The American ones seemed more flimsy.  US ones were mostly made in Mexico and the others were made in Bangadesh or some other Asian country.  (Though they were domestically produced up until the 90's.)
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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #138 on: May 11, 2022, 02:29:20 pm »
Fortunately, I was in a poorer area for a season after my parents were divorced.  No one cared about orange tabs until gr 9 and high school.  Funny, I went to the US on some bus trip to this large Christian rock campground festival in Pennsylvania and saw plenty of Americans wearing orange tab.  I guess it was no stigma to them.  But, I think Levis are always cheaper quality and a cheaper jean to them anyways.  The Canadian red tabs and Korean ones seemed to have a thicker denim and higher quality but you paid a higher price.  The American ones seemed more flimsy.  US ones were mostly made in Mexico and the others were made in Bangadesh or some other Asian country.  (Though they were domestically produced up until the 90's.)
Americans seem to enjoy much cheaper prices than most of the developed world. Also, it seems a lot of the lower ends goods can give flea markets in Nairobi, or Manila, a run for their money for low, low, prices. I remember when I first got to Korea, I'd hate shopping with Americans because they'd say how much cheaper something was in the US. I'm like it seems pretty similar to Canadian prices.


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Re: How has your attitude to Korea changed?
« Reply #139 on: May 11, 2022, 02:36:49 pm »
Americans seem to enjoy much cheaper prices than most of the developed world. Also, it seems a lot of the lower ends goods can give flea markets in Nairobi, or Manila, a run for their money for low, low, prices. I remember when I first got to Korea, I'd hate shopping with Americans because they'd say how much cheaper something was in the US. I'm like it seems pretty similar to Canadian prices.

Really?  How things must have changed in Canada and here.  It use to be most things were cheaper here except clothes, electronics, and fruit.  Those were more expensive than Canada, but Canada was more expensive than the US for most things.

Of course the Americans had a good exchange rate then.  Like 2 million won was $2100 USD.  Nowadays it's $1550 USD or something ridiculous like that.  I guess bringing money into Korea will make it go further.  So, it may make Korea cheap to a temporary tourist but expensive if you live here sending money home to save or pay off debt. 
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