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Friend getting sued over online game
« on: September 23, 2021, 10:27:47 pm »
I've never heard of this before happening but I guess anyone can sue anyone about anything in this world right?
To make it brief, basically a friend of mine who was playing online (League of Legends) with a team of his friends
were fighting against another team and they were using voice chat.  They apparently used a lot of profanities against
the opponent during gameplay.   A few days later on they got a call from the Police that they were being sued by that player
for some kind of reason around sexual harassment as that person teamed up with Korean Women's and Youth Department
(some kind of organization?) and filed a suit.   They submitted the chat conversations and I suppose evidence of the verbal
harassment (recorded it?) and gave it to the Police.  I believe they are being sued for about $2-3K as in a settlement fine.

I'm not a legal adviser or have any knowledge of legal things, but can you basically sue someone over an online game because
they swore at you, called you names, and even if was a female opponent, be sued for sexual harassment or abuse?

I'm curious for him because I don't know the laws in Korea or if there are different laws here for online conduct and cyber crimes, but
I wanted to ask around since I can't speak Korean well and ask Korean experts and officials.   Now I'm interested in this for my own curiosity
because that is freaky if you can be held accountable and sued just for cussing over on online gameplay as if nobody else has never done it.

Guess it's just a reminder to everyone out there, you never know who is listening and you better conduct yourself appropriately wherever you go
and whatever you are doing whether in RL or online lol.  Scary world we are living in now.   What's next, thought crimes? 


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2021, 01:22:01 am »
   What's next, thought crimes?

It's already a reality. Expressing the 'wrong' opinion about certain topics online will already  see you investigated by the police in some supposedly free countries, like the UK.


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2021, 07:26:22 am »
Yes. Swearing is considered defamation. Tell them just to pay to make it go away. Maybe they’ll accept less with an apology.
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Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2021, 07:47:18 am »
were fighting against another team and they were using voice chat. 

afaik voicechat in league is only in parties so i have absolutely no clue how the other team even heard em, unless they were typing too and the vc logs got caught up in the report. either way, important lesson learned, dont use the in-built league vc i guess (not that i ever used it anyways)

thats a stupid lawsuit regardless. should never go through. sure it might not be polite but i should have the right to cuss somebody out, especially when im not even saying (typing?) it to their face


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2021, 09:36:56 am »
damn i should sue my valorant team members  who kept calling me 병신 last night...


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2021, 09:44:04 am »
Imagine getting upset over someone calling you an idiot online once?

 :afro: RandomOnlineDude69: You are stupid. No one likes you and your mom is promiscuous.

 :shocked: SensitiveBaby: My honour............. .. how could this online guy I'm trying to win a 10 min deathmatch against say this about me and my family? Do the depths of hell really know no limits?

Do you

A)  Tell them to STFU and mute them, finish the game and then block them.

B) Enter the intricacies of the legal system and search for justice after this perceived sleight



Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2021, 10:16:31 am »
Laughs in single player.... but Diablo 2 resurrected is coming out today so that might change.


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Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2021, 10:29:39 am »
Free speech doesn't exist in Korea.  But this will come to the US and Canada one day if the crazy woke kids get their way.  Korea's Constitution has severe limits on personal freedoms.  It was put in place by the military dictatorship and is a globalist document.  Many other countries from Mexico to South Africa and even many European countries have elements of this where personal freedoms are restricted and can be.  Canada also allows some of this nonsense too.  Only the US Constitution has the proper protections.  It is why the far left wants to cancel it and pack the Supreme Court.  The west is done if it happens. 

Either way, Koreans need to wake up to the need for free speech.  Many young Koreans do complain about it and are leaning more conservative and libertarian.  Libel laws very extreme interpretation even when telling the truth, swearing or something else, political candidates can only campaign two weeks before an election and can't criticize their opponents.  A President can't even campaign for their parties in mid terms.  Criticizing the President here can get you charged.  Many Koreans during the last President were talking about the nude painting backside of Stephen Harper and that free speech being allowed.  They wanted to know why Korea was being so ridiculous when the last President kept trying to shut people up.  The prosecution service has gone after some criticizing this Pres too.  The prosecution has a 99 per cent conviction rate (like Japan, China, and elsewhere too). 

There is a whole list of problems that limit democracy here and have tight controls.  The only liberating thing was until recently, most Koreans ignored the rules and didn't follow them as they were too ridiculously strict in some cases.  Lately, they are starting to follow them and much more enforcement.  Democracy in name only.  I remember a pastor giving an opinion from the pulpit on the last election and Korea tried to charge him.  Freedom is limited here.  Quite ridiculous.  If you don't like a pastors opinion or interpretation, just go to another church. 

So, your whole being sued over a couple of curse words here, as stupid as it is, doesn't surprise me in the least.  The woke kids want to bring these types of personal restrictions and more to North America.  Fascism is not dead and what they accuse the other side of is actually what they are trying to do.   


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2021, 10:45:11 am »
I HEARD, don't take this is 100% true, this is from memory, but there was an altercation in a parking lot in Busan between a wayg and an ajeossi and the wayg said, "Are you fuc*ing insane?" and the ajeossi sued him for defamation and won.
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Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2021, 10:48:37 am »
I HEARD, don't take this is 100% true, this is from memory, but there was an altercation in a parking lot in Busan between a wayg and an ajeossi and the wayg said, "Are you fuc*ing insane?" and the ajeossi sued him for defamation and won.

That tells you all you need to know.  Total control from the government or by easy use of it's instruments or it's tools.   Fascism.


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Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2021, 11:02:54 am »
I HEARD, don't take this is 100% true, this is from memory, but there was an altercation in a parking lot in Busan between a wayg and an ajeossi and the wayg said, "Are you fuc*ing insane?" and the ajeossi sued him for defamation and won.

He'd have to have witnesses.  So, if I hear a Korean swear during a argument with me, I can sue?  Or does it have to be directed at me?  As, in ""What the f*ck, man?" or does it need to be "You're a f*cking dick" .  Being able to sue for either is nuts, but for the first one I would have to say didn't happen. 


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Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2021, 11:06:05 am »
I don't remember any ajossis getting sued for calling Korean women whores or race traitors for dating western men.  So, obviously, this is just preferential treatment for some and not others.  But either way, if someone calls you a name and you run to the hall monitor and or teacher to complain, that makes you a p#$$y anyways.  A lot of sissy snowflakes out there it seems. 


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Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2021, 11:08:23 am »
Free speech doesn't exist in Korea.  But this will come to the US and Canada one day if the crazy woke kids get their way.  Korea's Constitution has severe limits on personal freedoms.  It was put in place by the military dictatorship and is a globalist document.  Many other countries from Mexico to South Africa and even many European countries have elements of this where personal freedoms are restricted and can be.  Canada also allows some of this nonsense too.  Only the US Constitution has the proper protections.  It is why the far left wants to cancel it and pack the Supreme Court.  The west is done if it happens. 

Either way, Koreans need to wake up to the need for free speech. 

Just so you know, most organizations rank South Korea higher than the United States in freedom of speech rankings.

According to the World Press Freedom Index, South Korea is at 42 while the USA is at 44.

https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2021, 11:11:30 am »
korean society being patriarchal? *surprised pikachu face*

and yes that's my first reaction when a student tells me someone called them a name "man this kid is a p#$$y" ...


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2021, 11:14:56 am »
Free speech doesn't exist in Korea.  But this will come to the US and Canada one day if the crazy woke kids get their way.  Korea's Constitution has severe limits on personal freedoms.  It was put in place by the military dictatorship and is a globalist document.  Many other countries from Mexico to South Africa and even many European countries have elements of this where personal freedoms are restricted and can be.  Canada also allows some of this nonsense too.  Only the US Constitution has the proper protections.  It is why the far left wants to cancel it and pack the Supreme Court.  The west is done if it happens. 

Either way, Koreans need to wake up to the need for free speech.  Many young Koreans do complain about it and are leaning more conservative and libertarian.  Libel laws very extreme interpretation even when telling the truth, swearing or something else, political candidates can only campaign two weeks before an election and can't criticize their opponents.  A President can't even campaign for their parties in mid terms.  Criticizing the President here can get you charged.  Many Koreans during the last President were talking about the nude painting backside of Stephen Harper and that free speech being allowed.  They wanted to know why Korea was being so ridiculous when the last President kept trying to shut people up.  The prosecution service has gone after some criticizing this Pres too.  The prosecution has a 99 per cent conviction rate (like Japan, China, and elsewhere too). 

There is a whole list of problems that limit democracy here and have tight controls.  The only liberating thing was until recently, most Koreans ignored the rules and didn't follow them as they were too ridiculously strict in some cases.  Lately, they are starting to follow them and much more enforcement.  Democracy in name only.  I remember a pastor giving an opinion from the pulpit on the last election and Korea tried to charge him.  Freedom is limited here.  Quite ridiculous.  If you don't like a pastors opinion or interpretation, just go to another church. 

So, your whole being sued over a couple of curse words here, as stupid as it is, doesn't surprise me in the least.  The woke kids want to bring these types of personal restrictions and more to North America.  Fascism is not dead and what they accuse the other side of is actually what they are trying to do.   

You're REALLY going to have fun in China.


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2021, 11:17:36 am »
Toxicity in League? Never!

Also, as another poster said, you can't chat with the enemy team over audio. You can only inform them of all the kinky things you did with their mother via text chat.


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Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2021, 11:17:45 am »
Just so you know, most organizations rank South Korea higher than the United States in freedom of speech rankings.

According to the World Press Freedom Index, South Korea is at 42 while the USA is at 44.

https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table
 

I have yet to hear of an American getting charged or fined by the police because someone called them a name or swore at them.  Also I don't know of any pastors being charged for speaking from the pulpit on their convictions.  I don't know of any election campaigns where your ability to campaign is severely limited.  I don't know of amy incident where criticism of the US President gets the justice department going after you.  All of these restrictions do apply in Korea.  So, that survey or whatever it is had better change their metrics and re take their survey


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2021, 11:18:51 am »
What exactly is he accused of saying? If it is sexual harassment and he said some bad stuff in violation of the TOS, he could actually have done something legit actionable.

Sexual harassment is NOT covered under freedom of speech.

That being said, check the transcript (if it's submitted as evidence against them, they have the right to review it. If they were fighting and the other team said anything that could be potentially actionable, counter-sue.

But yeah, if your friends just decided to sexually harass her when they found out she was female, then that's a d*ck move and I don't have much sympathy for them.


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Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2021, 11:20:35 am »
You're REALLY going to have fun in China.


No.  If I go, it's ti make for a while and leave.  It's not for living ling term nor for the ambience.  Stay out of folks business like you do here.  Korean fake libel law forces you to self censor and shut up anyhow.  Plus if any foreigner is too vocal about Korean politics openly you can be deported just like there.  Make some money and then get out.  Also I dont live there or here for the rest of my life.


Re: Friend getting sued over online game
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2021, 11:30:44 am »
I don't remember any ajossis getting sued for calling Korean women whores or race traitors for dating western men.  So, obviously, this is just preferential treatment for some and not others. 
You seem to be missing the key factor- There is a recording of the incident. You know that's the critical element, right? This minor detail called "evidence".