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  • Mr C
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #220 on: November 05, 2021, 12:28:09 pm »
“Even big social media companies..””

Hahhahahaha
What a joke.
They will be dealt with soon enough. 
Youngkin just got elected saying he would ban mandates . This is not a popular position . 

I think if you look at the polls, you'll find that's not true.  6 in 10 support Biden's vaccine mandates: https://news.gallup.com/poll/354983/majority-supports-biden-covid-vaccine-mandates.aspx

I mean, nothing in the media can be true, though, huh?
For that matter, how do you know Youngkin even won?  Or if he even exists?  The whole damn thing's a lie, Virginia isn't even a state, it's small boulder in the middle of Pennsylvania, I'm sick of all these media lies.


  • Chester Jim
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #221 on: November 05, 2021, 02:18:13 pm »
I think if you look at the polls, you'll find that's not true.  6 in 10 support Biden's vaccine mandates: https://news.gallup.com/poll/354983/majority-supports-biden-covid-vaccine-mandates.aspx

I mean, nothing in the media can be true, though, huh?
For that matter, how do you know Youngkin even won?  Or if he even exists?  The whole damn thing's a lie, Virginia isn't even a state, it's small boulder in the middle of Pennsylvania, I'm sick of all these media lies.


Are you trying to be funny? 
The media is full or horse shit.
What if they actually allowed people to talk about vaccine injuries?  What if the they didn’t ignore coverage of massive protests across the world?  So they may have gaslit a few gullible Americans so that it hovers around %50 support.  But I do doubt even that.  I doubt how they pose the questions.   A lot of the “anti Vaxxers are on the left, old school liberals.   We’ll see how the GOP plays it but it looks like governors are going to run on anti mandates, which is the limited government position.   I seriously can’t even believe how sick and twisted people have become.  Trusting Pfizer ?Not today.
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #222 on: November 05, 2021, 03:35:18 pm »
That was probably a s$)&t one also.
And that Newcastle fan who had a cardiac arrest last month.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16480643/newcastle-fan-cardiac-arrest-tottenham-family-statement/

Is it
A) The Vaccine
B) Him being an 80-year old who has eaten bangers and pies and drunk pints his whole life

Clearly it's A!


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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #223 on: November 05, 2021, 08:23:47 pm »
Christian Erickson collapsed. 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270602

I could go on all day. 
That article says nothing about the guy having a heart issue being vaccinated.


  • Chester Jim
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #224 on: November 06, 2021, 02:14:13 am »
And that Newcastle fan who had a cardiac arrest last month.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16480643/newcastle-fan-cardiac-arrest-tottenham-family-statement/

Is it
A) The Vaccine
B) Him being an 80-year old who has eaten bangers and pies and drunk pints his whole life

Clearly it's A!

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And that Newcastle fan who had a cardiac arrest last month.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16480643/newcastle-fan-cardiac-arrest-tottenham-family-statement/

Is it
A) The Vaccine
B) Him being an 80-year old who has eaten bangers and pies and drunk pints his whole life

Clearly it's A!


Well then it’s B like most Covid deaths, another cause. 
But these, today, happening all over the place,  are not random and coincidences. 

I can’t even believe what I’m hearing.  A healthy teen who runs marathons dies and it’s”. Oh marathons put a lot of strain on your heart”.
  Crazies.
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #225 on: November 06, 2021, 05:11:45 am »
How many would there be if they weren’t so gaslit?   Democrats believe the hospitalization rate is over 50%.    It’s mass stupidity, encouraged by a corporate sleazy media.

Or how many would support mandates if they knew actual death numbers?   
Here Italy changes Covid death numbers from 130k to 4k. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/italian-institute-health-drastically-reduces-its-official-covid-death-toll-number

The fatality rate is already very low in the US with the 700k number.  What’s the real rate?
You seem to have missed this:
"We trawled through the various websites of the Italian National Institute of Health (NIH) and National Institute of Statistics to try to corroborate this piece from an Italian newspaper, and it appears to be based on this report (in English) published on or before October 20th. The author of the piece is effectively stating his opinion that only those who died of Covid without comorbidities (2.9%) should be counted as a Covid death, and then extrapolates from there to suggest that the ‘real’ Covid death toll over the period in question was only 3,783. This is all contrary to the report itself and to the NIH’s detailed guidance (in Italian) on how to classify Covid deaths. It thus seems as though the article severely misrepresents the position of the NIH, but a lot seems to have been lost in translation and this is really just an opinion piece where the author is poking fun at the NIH while trying to make a point about the risks of Covid."

You're doing nothing but spreading disinformation, I guess because your guy lost the election.

Funny you should pass over the fact that 700,000 Americans died and that much of that death can be attributed to the disinformation you're peddling.


  • Lazio
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #226 on: November 06, 2021, 08:23:42 am »
How many would there be if they weren’t so gaslit?   Democrats believe the hospitalization rate is over 50%.    It’s mass stupidity, encouraged by a corporate sleazy media.

Or how many would support mandates if they knew actual death numbers?   
Here Italy changes Covid death numbers from 130k to 4k. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/italian-institute-health-drastically-reduces-its-official-covid-death-toll-number

The fatality rate is already very low in the US with the 700k number.  What’s the real rate?

''Fact check: Italy did not lower its COVID-19 death toll to 3,783 - USA Today''

https://www.google.co.kr/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6195621001

You can check excess deaths for 2020 and 2021 to  see how many more died than normally.
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #227 on: November 10, 2021, 09:04:40 pm »
This is happening all over the place and in very high numbers. 
I’d love yous to talk to some of these people who have had family members die and or are injured and tell them that they are a necessary sacrifice.  What a joke.   
Athletes around the world dropping like flies.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nKXYFhX0TzFT/


Worlds too static free diver may not compete again.

https://www.newswars.com/worlds-top-static-freediver-diagnosed-with-myocarditis-after-taking-pfizer-vax-may-end-his-career/


I’d say he knows a thing or two about heart rates, breathing  and his health.
guy can still hold his breath for 8 minutes so I don't think his career is over.

"Among patients in a large Israeli health care system who had received at least one dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, the estimated incidence of myocarditis was 2.13 cases per 100,000 persons; the highest incidence was among male patients between the ages of 16 and 29 years. Most cases of myocarditis were mild or moderate in severity."

So "not all over the place" nor "in large numbers."

More disinformation from the jester. It looks like you're immune to at least one thing--the facts.


  • Lazio
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #228 on: November 11, 2021, 08:23:08 am »
This is happening all over the place and in very high numbers. 
I’d love yous to talk to some of these people who have had family members die and or are injured and tell them that they are a necessary sacrifice.  What a joke.   
Athletes around the world dropping like flies.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nKXYFhX0TzFT/


Worlds too static free diver may not compete again.

https://www.newswars.com/worlds-top-static-freediver-diagnosed-with-myocarditis-after-taking-pfizer-vax-may-end-his-career/


I’d say he knows a thing or two about heart rates, breathing  and his health.


Do you really want to pretend that ''sudden cardiac death of athletes'' was not a thing before covid vaccinations? Hit up google.
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  • Savant
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #229 on: November 12, 2021, 10:14:50 pm »
Yes .


Looks like ‘died suddenly’ is trending on Google. 

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=died%20suddenly&geo=US


I wish the idiotic nature of your posts would die suddenly.


  • Chester Jim
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #230 on: November 12, 2021, 10:18:43 pm »
It looks like the media is being sponsored heavily by Pfizer. 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9OaQKdkxwQtr/

Why would I trust a program on CNN or CBS that is sponsored by Pfizer?   “Brought to you by Pfizer”

Didn’t Pfizer pay the largest criminal fine ever?
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #231 on: November 15, 2021, 07:40:57 am »
Your quoting bitchute? A site renown for hate speech and far-right conspiracy theories? seriously  :laugh:
Anyway, after a quick search on the topic: according to more creditable sources ( including the one in the link below (AP news, "central political bias") , the opposite is true:
media and social media sites have been offered serious money to run smear campaigns against AstraZeneca and Pfizer.
https://apnews.com/article/europe-social-media-coronavirus-pandemic-business-coronavirus-vaccine-c4ce42244be08d7d73a412dd42e36360


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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #232 on: November 15, 2021, 08:10:02 am »
Your quoting bitchute? A site renown for hate speech and far-right conspiracy theories? seriously  :laugh:
Anyway, after a quick search on the topic: according to more creditable sources ( including the one in the link below (AP news, "central political bias") , the opposite is true:
media and social media sites have been offered serious money to run smear campaigns against AstraZeneca and Pfizer.
https://apnews.com/article/europe-social-media-coronavirus-pandemic-business-coronavirus-vaccine-c4ce42244be08d7d73a412dd42e36360

The bolded part is a hint that the rest of your idea will likely be complete drivel.

This is a video simply compiling the Pfizer ads in the news. 
“Nightline brought to you by Pfizer”. Etc..
This is pure data. 

Same video on rumble.  It’s trending.  https://rumble.com/vnylap-brought-to-you-by-pfizer.html

You are arguing that Big Pharma has no influence over the media, and instead it is other groups that are trying to get the media to make ads smearing Pfizer? 
You are really special.
Pfizer is a felon as are Gaxo,J&J and several others.

Bitchute is a site where videos that have been kicked off of YouTube can post their videos.   It’s full of terrible garbage conspiracy theories.  You might not be able to sift through it, but I can.
Bitchute is full of left wing conspiracy garbage as well.   What needs to happen is unbiased sites which allow legal speech and activities to be regulated by a fair and honest algorithm with no interruption from woke gatekeeper police who get their worldview from mainstream corporate media.   
Bonzai!


  • Kyndo
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #233 on: November 15, 2021, 08:32:07 am »
 :laugh:
Supporting bitchute with a reference to Rumble is like supporting Stalin with a quote from Mao.

Also, your "sifter" has a few holes in it. Better get some tinfoil to fix it up.  :smiley:


Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #234 on: November 15, 2021, 08:56:04 am »
Your quoting bitchute? A site renown for hate speech and far-right conspiracy theories? seriously  :laugh:
First, did you even watch the video? It's nothing more than various clips of various news programs being sponsored by Pfizer. He isn't quoting bitchute, he's quoting Good Morning America and Anderson Cooper 360.

Secondly, he's not quoting bitchute. Bitchute isn't a producer of content. Bitchute is an open video sharing platform that chooses not to censor content. Yes you find hate on there. You can also find banal and apolitical content on there. That's its nature- It's an open platform.

One could say youtube is a site renowned for hate based on the comments. It's also the site where 9/11 conspiracy theory vids spread.

It's all in how you frame it.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2021, 08:59:16 am by Mr.DeMartino »


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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #235 on: November 15, 2021, 09:06:09 am »
First, did you even watch the video? It's nothing more than various clips of various news programs being sponsored by Pfizer. He isn't quoting bitchute, he's quoting Good Morning America and Anderson Cooper 360.

Secondly, he's not quoting bitchute. Bitchute isn't a producer of content. Bitchute is an open video sharing platform that chooses not to censor content. Yes you find hate on there. You can also find banal and apolitical content on there. That's its nature- It's an open platform.

One could say youtube is a site renowned for hate based on the comments. It's also the site where 9/11 conspiracy theory vids spread.

It's all in how you frame it.
Sorry, you're right. It was shorthand for "You're quoting materials from bitchute". I shouldn't be lazy like that, I know, I know!
And honestly, it's not just Bitchute: Youtube is usually a pretty unreliable source as well. So much biased, unverified/unverifiable garbage there as well.

And while the segments stitched together might be legit, stitching together cherry-picked sound-bites  isn't a convincing way to make broad-sweeping accusations of a company nefariously buying influence over main-stream media.
It's just a suspect way of presenting information: it's all in how you frame it, you see.  :wink:
« Last Edit: November 15, 2021, 09:18:20 am by Kyndo »


Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #236 on: November 15, 2021, 09:23:51 am »
Well I agree that it depends on the nature of the sponsorship and the level of control. For example, if some football announcer says that "I love my Pepsi because Coke is nasty", Coke might care or might not. And they might yank their sponsorship. But Pepsi would just swoop in and no one would really care, though the announcer might be told to be more professional.

At the same time an entire industry might exert a level of influence. We did see how big pharma was able to unite to get pharma commercials on regular TV, a rather dubious outcome. They could, as a united group, exert influence on broadcasters. This is especially the case as conglomerates become intertwined. Even if the media company isn't part of an umbrella corporation that also controls pharmaceuticals, it would face significant potential pressure in its content. Of course in most cases, this potential pressure is never actualized. Whatever company usually doesn't care, as long as you keep any criticism generalized. That's why you can get people criticizing the finance industry or the auto industry or Big Pharma as long as they don't get specific about the brand OR that whatever the company did was so obvious and newsworthy, that it would be a joke to gloss over it.

However in certain specific circumstances, there MIGHT be a case where a company would put pressure. Like say, a high-profile situation involving an incredibly high-profile product of theirs during an incredibly sensitive situation. This is a situation in which different rules and standards would apply and the stakes would be much higher. And while nothing can be proven, it certainly is something that should be monitored. Not investigated, but at least monitored.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2021, 09:26:15 am by Mr.DeMartino »


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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #237 on: November 15, 2021, 09:35:19 am »
I won't deny any of that: it's certainly possible. Heck, I'm sure that to some minor extent it's even likely.
But it's beside the point. My issue was that the quality of the source was low.  A video collage posted on a video hosting site notorious for pandering to cranks and political extremists by an anti-vaxxer who also posts videos about demon manifestations and alien overlord conspiracies is not a particularly convincing way to make a point.


Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #238 on: November 15, 2021, 09:48:26 am »
A video collage posted on a video hosting site notorious for pandering to cranks and political extremists by an anti-vaxxer who also posts videos about demon manifestations and alien overlord conspiracies is not a particularly convincing way to make a point.
I think all of that to some extent is sort of irrelevant if the content is simply recordings of various news programs being sponsored by pfizer. None of what follows makes it untrue per se, though it does make one wonder if it has been manipulated at all. However, given the relatively banal nature of it, I don't think most would disagree. I mean is anyone out here really thinking Pfizer hasn't sponsored various programming on various channels? Since that really isn't in dispute, I don't think that anything involving the source or the other content is really a factor in anything.

Now the CONCLUSIONS Chester Jim draws, those are up for debate. What he's missing is that yes, Pfizer exerts anamount of influence, but then so do the following- Coca Cola, Pepsi, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, Kia Hyundai, Ford, Chrysler, GM, VW, BMW, Toyota, Honda, The Democratic Party, The Republican Party, McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Carl's Jr., Smashburger, Taco Bell, Chipotle, Del Taco, Sonic, Denny's, etc. etc. etc.

The sheer diversity of sources dilutes the influence each has. That being said, as I said, either a conglomerate or a single industry, properly motivated, CAN make some noise.


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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #239 on: November 15, 2021, 10:02:37 am »
I think all of that to some extent is sort of irrelevant if the content is simply recordings of various news programs being sponsored by pfizer. None of what follows makes it untrue per se, though it does make one wonder if it has been manipulated at all. However, given the relatively banal nature of it, I don't think most would disagree. I mean is anyone out here really thinking Pfizer hasn't sponsored various programming on various channels? Since that really isn't in dispute, I don't think that anything involving the source or the other content is really a factor in anything.

Now the CONCLUSIONS Chester Jim draws, those are up for debate. What he's missing is that yes, Pfizer exerts anamount of influence, but then so do the following- Coca Cola, Pepsi, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, Kia Hyundai, Ford, Chrysler, GM, VW, BMW, Toyota, Honda, The Democratic Party, The Republican Party, McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Carl's Jr., Smashburger, Taco Bell, Chipotle, Del Taco, Sonic, Denny's, etc. etc. etc.

The sheer diversity of sources dilutes the influence each has. That being said, as I said, either a conglomerate or a single industry, properly motivated, CAN make some noise.


You are not getting off that easy pal throwing ol Chester Jim from Arkansas under the bus. 
I am not missing anything.
I understand how corporate media works.
The same corporate media sponsored by Pfizer and all these trashy junk multinational globalist companies are the ones the Kyndo says are the legitimate sources. 
I wonder how familiar he is with the past dishonesty of these companies like CNN and the New York Times. How many life lines do they get before they become universally regarded as trash.
The only thing that matters is what is true. 
This collage is a very simple powerful way to see the problem. 
No tricks just clips straight from their sources.
It makes Kyndo uncomfortable because of cognitive dissonance. 
Bonzai!