Why use deaths solely as a measure? You can be severely affected by Covid without dying, which also puts a burden on the health system.You've used political belief and ideology as a factor, not me. I don't care who they support but facts are that most of the non-vaccinated and non-mask wearing crowd are Republicans ergo likely Trump supporters.If someone has chosen not to get vaccinated during a pandemic then they are a public health danger to the safety of the many [doctors/nurses/patients/family members] which should trump [the irony] that of those who put themselves first.
Thoughts? There are good points to be made both for and against this, in my opinion.I'm wracking my brain for a movie that would fit your description, and for some reason, the only thing that comes to mind is the video for Pearl Jam's "Jeremy".
obese people drain hospital resources too (i assume). should fat people pay more for health insurance? (do they already? idk). i dont mean to troll you. i think these questions are related. if people who refuse to vaccine have to forfeit some rights, what about people who refuse to diet? what about people who refuse something more specific (idk like drinking sugar-free soda)? where do we draw the line? am i way off base here?
https://news.yahoo.com/wh-touts-successful-vaccination-rate-190537258.html
Yes. So?
Interesting comparison/update:"South Korea, Japan and Malaysia have administered more doses per 100 people than the U.S., a pace that seemed unthinkable in the spring.Vaccines have helped keep most South Koreans out of the hospital. Among fully vaccinated people who contracted Covid there, about 0.6 percent had severe illness and about 0.1 percent died, according to the country’s Disease Control and Prevention Agency.In Japan, serious cases have fallen by half over the last month, to a little over 1,000 a day. Hospitalizations plummeted from a high of just over 230,000 in late August to around 31,000 on Tuesday.The turnabout, my colleagues Sui-Lee Wee, Damien Cave and Ben Dooley write, is as much a testament to the region’s success in securing supplies as it is to some Americans’ vaccine hesitancy and political opposition.Vaccines are not polarizing in the Asia-Pacific region. Movements against them have been relatively small, without the sympathetic news media, advocacy groups and politicians that can exacerbate misinformation.Overall, most Asians have put community needs over their individual freedoms. They’ve also trusted their governments, although many of those governments have also used incentives, such as lifting restrictions for the fully vaccinated."Interesting conclusion: no Fox News or Newsmax leads to a healthier population.
Ah, I think you thought the chart referred only to black voters. It's total population, fully vaccinated. The new stats refer to people who've received at least one shot, but even when you look at those who are fully vaxxed, black Americans are a few percentage points behind whites (though by all accounts race isn't recorded for every dosage, so these are really just estimates). The point is, being a Trump voter is a stronger determinant of being unvaccinated than being black.
Interesting conclusion: no Fox News or Newsmax leads to a healthier population.
But being a Trump voter is NOT a strong determinant amongst black people, suggesting something else is at play.
Uh:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/04/what-about-black-people-defense-republican-vaccine-hesitancy/
Again, this doesn't contradict my point- That the level of vaccine hesitancy amongst black people is not in line with black partisanship, thus in their case, there is something beyond simply "being Trump supporters". Amongst white people? Yes, there is a very strong correlation. It's fair to say that white people not getting vaxxed are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. It is not fair to say that Americans who aren't getting vaxxed are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. If you say "It's all because of Trump supporters", then you won't be able to understand the issue regarding black Americans who are not getting vaxxed. As far as Latinos, their numbers appear in line with Trump supporters, though I wonder about the partisan breakdown amongst Latinos not getting vaxxed because I suspect in both the Latino and black communities, education and religious intensity is a significant factor and strongly religious blacks and Latinos have much less of a partisan split than white Americans (and something that Democrats should point out when the GOP panders and plays identity politics by falsely claiming the Dems are a "godless" party)
Again, this doesn't contradict my point- That the level of vaccine hesitancy amongst black people is not in line with black partisanship, thus in their case, there is something beyond simply "being Trump supporters". Amongst white people? Yes, there is a very strong correlation. It's fair to say that white people not getting vaxxed are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. It is not fair to say that Americans who aren't getting vaxxed are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. If you say "It's all because of Trump supporters", then you won't be able to understand the issue regarding black Americans who are not getting vaxxed.
Oh, a strawman. Never would've guessed that was coming.
What is your point? That being a Trump supporter is the biggest factor? Because that's a gross over-simplification of a much more complex issue. Did you look at education or religiosity? Or do you accept Savant's simplistic point that the anti-vaxxers are overwhelmingly Trumpists?
And furthermore that Trump supporters lead all other political demographics in vaccine refusal by a wide (and widening) margin. No one capable of understanding a graph, like say, a statistician, would say otherwise.