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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #240 on: November 15, 2021, 10:13:11 am »
I wonder how familiar he is with the past dishonesty of these companies like CNN and the New York Times. How many life lines do they get before they become universally regarded as trash.
The only thing that matters is what is true. 
This collage is a very simple powerful way to see the problem. 
No tricks just clips straight from their sources.
That can all be true. That doesn't mean that whoever disagrees with them or is reporting something else is necessarily correct either.

If you aren't applying the same level of skepticism to YOUR sources and the outlets YOU enjoy, then you are making the same mistake as everyone you claim to have a problem with. Yes, the MSM is often full of it and you need to carefully scrutinize them, same goes for youtubers and independent media. And you can't have a selective memory about what YOUR preferred sources get right and what they got wrong.
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #241 on: November 15, 2021, 10:18:59 am »
That can all be true. That doesn't mean that whoever disagrees with them or is reporting something else is necessarily correct either.

If you aren't applying the same level of skepticism to YOUR sources and the outlets YOU enjoy, then you are making the same mistake as everyone you claim to have a problem with. Yes, the MSM is often full of it and you need to carefully scrutinize them, same goes for youtubers and independent media. And you can't have a selective memory about what YOUR preferred sources get right and what they got wrong.
Preaching to the choir.
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #242 on: November 15, 2021, 10:24:55 am »
Preaching to the choir.
No, I don't think I am.

If I was, you'd also understand that the fact that Pfizer sponsors various media outlets is not proof of either a coverup nor that the vaccines are ineffecitve nor that the booster shot is a cash grab and that any media outlet/youtuber asserting that (vs. say, saying we need to watch carefully) is doing the same thing as the MSM.


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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #243 on: November 15, 2021, 10:41:19 am »
No, I don't think I am.

If I was, you'd also understand that the fact that Pfizer sponsors various media outlets is not proof of either a coverup nor that the vaccines are ineffecitve nor that the booster shot is a cash grab and that any media outlet/youtuber asserting that (vs. say, saying we need to watch carefully) is doing the same thing as the MSM.

You seem to be fighting a strawman and are fading in an out of abstraction, perhaps to appeal as an intermediary, like a Cheney or a Kinzinger.  They won't be missed.  Is the right really going to come back to the table with the left like a battered housewife to her husband to start over again.  I don't think so.  You want to read into things without enough information like  Freudian garbage.  I am much better at it.

It's evidence and just a small bit of a mountain of evidence.  Their past criminal history is also part of the record.
I am saying take this evidence and make it part of the record along with all of the vaccination deaths and injuries.
Instead people seem content to silence the voices of these people.  If my child got injured because of the vaccine and I felt like we were forced,  god help whoever I deem responsible.
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #244 on: November 15, 2021, 11:45:35 am »
If my child got injured because of the vaccine and I felt like we were forced,  god help whoever I deem responsible.

you accidentally summed this up kind of nicely. it doesn't matter who is actually responsible. it's just about whoever you (and people like you) judge to be responsible.
just another one of the jester chim's fascistic tendencies. it all fits right in muh narrative
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #245 on: November 15, 2021, 12:02:37 pm »
you accidentally summed this up kind of nicely. it doesn't matter who is actually responsible. it's just about whoever you (and people like you) judge to be responsible.
just another one of the jester chim's fascistic tendencies. it all fits right in muh narrative

Well there are so many people.  But, yes, if my child died I would lose my shit, and then I could take my pick.  I would aim as high as possible on the child vax pusher chart. .   But yes I would be judge jury and executioner at this point.  Rest assured they had some part in pushing the vaccine, so it's not random, but they would be high up. Of course my child would never take the vaccine, so this is all hypothetical, but  I would not give in to some sacrificial cult.
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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #246 on: November 15, 2021, 12:34:20 pm »
You want to read into things without enough information like  Freudian garbage. 
If you think bias is "Freudian garbage", you're an idiot. Bias has nothing to do with Freud, it is something innate to all human beings based on their experiences and learned responses.

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I am much better at it.
Why? Because you say so? Have you taken any kind of objective test to analyze this?

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It's evidence and just a small bit of a mountain of evidence.
It's not evidence any more than Trump having visited Moscow is evidence of Trump-Russia. Simply being linked in some way isn't evidence that what is being alleged has actually taken place. Yes, it can provide motive and/or opportunity, but it doesn't then follow that the person is guilty.

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  Their past criminal history is also part of the record.
Again, by your "logic" past criminal behavior or past actions by people such as Manafort or Trump and TrumpU are evidence. And while they can go to character, again they do not provide evidence of what is being alleged.

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I am saying take this evidence and make it part of the record along with all of the vaccination deaths and injuries.
Again, it's not really evidence that anything has taken place. I have noted it and as I said, it warrants monitoring, but unless you have something more, it can't go any farther than that, and clearly it has in your mind.

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Instead people seem content to silence the voices of these people.
I do think as long as they aren't engaged in criminal/actionable speech, they should be permitted to air their view on open platforms.

Chester Jim, the same thing that made me the foremost critic of the Trump-Russia nonsense, the Fine People hoax, the Capitol Riot being called an "insurrection" and the Trump Bleach delusion (and also dismissed Benghazi!!!! and Emails!!!!!! and pumped the brakes on Joe Biden being in trouble thanks to Hunter Biden's laptop) is why I'm now not endorsing the view that Pfizer is engaged in some sort of conspiracy to pressure the media into certain reporting via COVID. I could change my view in the future, but it's going to take more than the fact that they've sponsored certain shows.

Ford and GM will sponsor shows that in turn will feature guests bashing SUVs (among the most profitable vehicles for the Big 3). That shouldn't be happening if they really exerted as much control as you claim. It's possible that Brian Stelter genuinely thinks vaccines work and that's his honest opinion.


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Re: US States ranked by fully vaccinated
« Reply #247 on: November 15, 2021, 01:23:26 pm »
If you think bias is "Freudian garbage", you're an idiot. Bias has nothing to do with Freud, it is something innate to all human beings based on their experiences and learned responses.
Why? Because you say so? Have you taken any kind of objective test to analyze this?
It's not evidence any more than Trump having visited Moscow is evidence of Trump-Russia. Simply being linked in some way isn't evidence that what is being alleged has actually taken place. Yes, it can provide motive and/or opportunity, but it doesn't then follow that the person is guilty.
Again, by your "logic" past criminal behavior or past actions by people such as Manafort or Trump and TrumpU are evidence. And while they can go to character, again they do not provide evidence of what is being alleged.
Again, it's not really evidence that anything has taken place. I have noted it and as I said, it warrants monitoring, but unless you have something more, it can't go any farther than that, and clearly it has in your mind.
I do think as long as they aren't engaged in criminal/actionable speech, they should be permitted to air their view on open platforms.

Chester Jim, the same thing that made me the foremost critic of the Trump-Russia nonsense, the Fine People hoax, the Capitol Riot being called an "insurrection" and the Trump Bleach delusion (and also dismissed Benghazi!!!! and Emails!!!!!! and pumped the brakes on Joe Biden being in trouble thanks to Hunter Biden's laptop) is why I'm now not endorsing the view that Pfizer is engaged in some sort of conspiracy to pressure the media into certain reporting via COVID. I could change my view in the future, but it's going to take more than the fact that they've sponsored certain shows.

Ford and GM will sponsor shows that in turn will feature guests bashing SUVs (among the most profitable vehicles for the Big 3). That shouldn't be happening if they really exerted as much control as you claim. It's possible that Brian Stelter genuinely thinks vaccines work and that's his honest opinion.

What is being alleged?  You keep creating strawmen and knocking em down.  Good job.
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