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  • Liechtenstein
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • February 15, 2019, 04:39:00 pm
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Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« on: September 03, 2021, 08:46:39 am »
For all of the ESL teachers in Korea who complain about their situation....watch this. I think you have a golden job, even if it pays 2.1 and I have been there and done that.

This video was an eye-opener for me. It's heart-breaking. Around the 16, 18 and 20 minute marks are revelations that kinda shocked me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xij_cIe5_A&t=854s


  • CO2
  • Waygook Lord

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    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
    • Uiwang
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2021, 08:50:18 am »
If only there was a thread to share Youtube videos............. ........

One in which this was already shared............. ................


Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2021, 09:23:52 am »
L I

Why did you delete your cheeky comment about Liechtenstein getting old and losing his memory?
Not that I'm dobbing you in or anything.  :wink: :wink:


  • 745sticky
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2021, 09:36:46 am »
huh, i saw that comment too. wonder where it went


  • tylerthegloob
  • The Legend

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    • September 28, 2016, 10:46:24 am
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Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2021, 09:45:26 am »
LI constantly writes snarky things and then deletes them. catching them is a real treat. i quoted one once and he didn't like that.

100% guarantee his response to this will be the "talking about people is narrow and petty, talk about broad topics and big ideas that have universal appeal" spiel
more gg more skill


  • OnNut81
  • The Legend

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    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2021, 09:49:08 am »
huh, i saw that comment too. wonder where it went

Perhaps he realized that it was a tad hypocritical to have been going on around on here the last week trying to tell posters to act more mature and not insult people, to then mock someone because of their age.  I notice a lot of the "you're old so I'm going to slap these blanket stereotypes on you" going on here lately.  Now that I'm approaching 30 I've really started to become more attuned to the ageist insults. 


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2021, 09:55:46 am »
If someone reconsiders and deletes a comment realizing it could be distasteful / hurtful, by talking about it, you’re un-deleting it.

It’s like if doing an interview, someone says, “Actually, I feel I didn’t make that last point well; let me say that last sentence again to articulate what I meant.”
Then, the reporter says, “Ha ha, too late! You’re on record! Gotcha!” and runs away.

Next day, reporter puts the sentence out into the world without full context. “I’m outraged this was said! It’s hurtful and in poor taste!”


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2021, 09:57:21 am »
Now that I'm approaching 30 I've really started to become more attuned to the ageist insults.

Are you approaching 30? Your posting history seems to indicate you’re in your 50s.


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2021, 09:58:11 am »
If someone reconsiders and deletes a comment realizing it could be distasteful / hurtful, by talking about it, you’re un-deleting it.

It’s like if doing an interview, someone says, “Actually, I feel I didn’t make that last point well; let me say that last sentence again to articulate what I meant.”
Then, the reporter says, “Ha ha, too late! You’re on record! Gotcha!” and runs away.

Next day, reporter puts the sentence out into the world without full context. “I’m outraged this was said! It’s hurtful and in poor taste!”

I'm not sure I get this.  Are you saying that doesn't happen?


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2021, 09:59:19 am »
Are you approaching 30? Your posting history seems to indicate you’re in your 50s.

Broad sarcasm too nuanced for you?


  • 745sticky
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2021, 10:00:07 am »
If someone reconsiders and deletes a comment realizing it could be distasteful / hurtful, by talking about it, you’re un-deleting it.

yes, yes we are. you dont get to play holier-than-thou all week then try and pull a stunt like that haha


  • OnNut81
  • The Legend

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    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2021, 10:00:11 am »
Are you approaching 30? Your posting history seems to indicate you’re in your 50s.

How does it indicate that?  That's very presumptuous. 


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2021, 10:01:00 am »
I'm not sure I get this.  Are you saying that doesn't happen?

I heard about it on a Sam Harris podcast. He said if someone feels they misspoke or didn’t represent themselves well, he’ll cut that part out of the podcast before releasing it.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2021, 10:04:08 am by L I »


  • 745sticky
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2021, 10:02:34 am »
I heard about it on a Sam Harris podcast. He said if someone feels they misspoke or didn’t represent themselves well, he’ll cut that part out of the podcast before releasing it.

who asked


  • tylerthegloob
  • The Legend

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    • September 28, 2016, 10:46:24 am
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Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2021, 10:02:58 am »
unfortunately that's not how the world works, LI

if we're hanging out and i say "hey LI, i think you're a real piece of shit" (i don't, for the record), but then seconds later i say "y'know what? i take that back" it's still significantly worse than not saying it at all. whether or not you want something to be on the public record doesn't change whether or not you said it.

there's a difference between misspeaking or being misinterpreted vs actually saying something and then deciding you wish you hadn't said it

ALSO
Now that I'm approaching 30 I've really started to become more attuned to the ageist insults. 
ok boomer :P
more gg more skill


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2021, 10:03:08 am »
How does it indicate that?  That's very presumptuous.

You said you came to Korea to teach English in 1997. You said you were in high school in the 80s. So yeah, you’re not under 30. You’re in your 50s.


  • 745sticky
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2021, 10:03:48 am »
You said you came to Korea to teach English in 1997. You said you were in high school in the 80s. So yeah, you’re not under 30. You’re in your 50s.

can you provide sources to either of those claims


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2021, 10:04:39 am »
Source: my memory.


  • OnNut81
  • The Legend

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    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2021, 10:04:55 am »
I posted this elsewhere but I feel it bears repeating.  As a recently outed 33 year old, I feel I need to make a stand against LI's hypocrisy of late.

Taken from a Sam Harris interview before retakes:

LI, I've noticed over the last couple of days you trying to play the elder statesman encouraging posters to keep it mature and classy, at least according to what you consider those things to be.  But, for those of us who've endured years of you shoving those horrible Morning Clam comics down our throats, despite people's protestations, and by going over board with the same Bill Maher/Stossel videos even when people asked you to stop, your new persona rings hollow.  You epitomized petty and immature just the other week by repeatedly putting the same Maher videos in the same thread just because people asked you to stop.

Now, I support your efforts at being a disruptive d**k on here, because this is not real life.  This is an anonymous website for goofing around, blowing off steam and having our arguments, silly and otherwise.  But, you're not the guy who gets to tsk tsk others for inanity or being impolite.  You embodied both those traits admirably.  So, get off your high horse kick of late.

You're not angling at becoming a mod, are you?


  • 745sticky
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1654

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: Working yourself to death in S. Korea
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2021, 10:08:21 am »
Source: my memory.

as you previously mentioned... memory tends to play little tricks on you as you age, old man  :P