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  • Mr C
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #60 on: September 13, 2021, 03:07:13 pm »
He met the firefighters. 


No, he didn't.  That was on September 12. 

From the video description you posted:  "Former President Donald Trump is speaking to first responders on 9/11
146,656 views  Streamed live on Sep 12, 2021"

On Sept 11 he did just as I said he was doing.   

Biden is senile? 


  • pkjh
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #61 on: September 13, 2021, 03:16:03 pm »
Georgia a very conservative state did not elect two Democrat Senators fairly.  Some other states may be questioned as well.  But Georgia is the most obvious.  So, those two Republicans most likely won and the Senate split would have been 50-50 and maybe more if soem of the other States go deeper into their investigation.  Same for the House.  Though even with rigging in some states, they didn't expect the Republicans to do so well that it almost kicked Pelosi out of the speakers chair.  More investigations will have to be forthcoming.  I cannot say too much about the House and Senate (except for Georgia which is the most obvious) for now. 
Georgie is like 30% black who overwhelmingly vote dems. Then you got all the urban votes (60% of the population being urban). Nothing has been rigged.


  • Mr C
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #62 on: September 13, 2021, 04:01:21 pm »
Unless many of the officials are corrupted and evidence is still waiting to come out.  Audits are still being done and whistle blowers are still waiting to tesify.  Of course some of these judges may have their lives threatened so who knows what could happen then? 

Well, we don't hear about a lot of the judges having gotten death threats before they threw out Trumpist lawsuits, but we we sure do hear about Republican election officials who did their job honestly and certified the votes for Biden getting a lot of death threats afterwards.

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Warning shot across the bow?


https://www.newsweek.com/judge-esther-salas-shooting-deutsche-bank-epstein-1518974


Whose bow is this supposed to be a warning shot across?    An Obama-appointed judge who was on the case of Epstein's relationship with the same bank Trump had shady dealings in. 

You continually advance the proposition you've no idea what you're talking about.


Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #63 on: September 13, 2021, 05:36:01 pm »
No, he made a few thou giving commentary on a boxing match.  Very presidential way to mark the occasion, eh?
Bush: Invaded Afghanistan & Iraq, Patriot Act
Obama & Biden: Made "Ghaddified" a verb, Syria, Domestic Spying
Biden: Voted for Iraq War
Trump: A few drone strikes, announced a boxing match.

Yeah, Trump is the bad guy in all of this.
Get some perspective.


  • Mr C
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2021, 06:55:51 pm »
Bush: Invaded Afghanistan & Iraq, Patriot Act
Obama & Biden: Made "Ghaddified" a verb, Syria, Domestic Spying
Biden: Voted for Iraq War
Trump: A few drone strikes, announced a boxing match.
on Sept 11, 2001 crowed that his building was now the tallest in Manhattan
as prez, Hung the Kurds out to dry
released 5000 hardened Taliban from prison--in exchange for nothing
2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office ( https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207  ) someone's full of BS here, and I doubt it's the BBC

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Yeah, Trump is the bad guy in all of this.


I didn't say he was the "bad guy in all of this".  WTF are you talking about?  I responded to Hankook's claim that Biden did nothing to commemorate  Sept 11, which was BS.  Then I pointed out that Trump's behavior on the day was not very Presidential.  Only a person with mental illness would suggest I was saying "Trump was the bad guy in all of this."  You own that.

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Get some perspective.


Indeed you should.

Biden: got US out of Afghanistan (I noticed you left that off your list)

Bush and Cheney are the "bad guys in all of this", that is for sure.   

Bin Laden was the "worst guy in all of this", and Obama was the one who got him.  Trump, in case you missed it, downplayed OBL's role just a few weeks ago, saying he only got one hit, though "it was a bad one".  Well, okay, if you ignore the 1998 embassy bombings and the USS Cole.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2021, 08:11:54 pm by Mr C »


  • hangook77
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #65 on: September 14, 2021, 12:07:32 pm »
on Sept 11, 2001 crowed that his building was now the tallest in Manhattan
as prez, Hung the Kurds out to dry
released 5000 hardened Taliban from prison--in exchange for nothing
2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office ( https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207  ) someone's full of BS here, and I doubt it's the BBC

I didn't say he was the "bad guy in all of this".  WTF are you talking about?  I responded to Hankook's claim that Biden did nothing to commemorate  Sept 11, which was BS.  Then I pointed out that Trump's behavior on the day was not very Presidential.  Only a person with mental illness would suggest I was saying "Trump was the bad guy in all of this."  You own that.

Indeed you should.

Biden: got US out of Afghanistan (I noticed you left that off your list)

Bush and Cheney are the "bad guys in all of this", that is for sure.   

Bin Laden was the "worst guy in all of this", and Obama was the one who got him.  Trump, in case you missed it, downplayed OBL's role just a few weeks ago, saying he only got one hit, though "it was a bad one".  Well, okay, if you ignore the 1998 embassy bombings and the USS Cole.

Let's go back to supporting the warmongers in the deep state.  As for Afghanistan the US would not have left if the conditions weren't met.  Biden left anyways and when the Taliban ordered him out by Aug 31st, he obeyed like a *****. 

Obama wanted war in Syria and got it in Libya.  Then he pulled ut of Iraq with no conditions being met like Biden now.  So, of course ISIS rose up.  Obama was too busy being politically correct.  Trump bombed the shit out them like he said he would and he actually kept his word. 

As for Bush, well they hate Trump because he called out their BS.  Boo hoo for them. 


  • tylerthegloob
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #66 on: September 14, 2021, 12:22:42 pm »
Let's go back to supporting the warmongers in the deep state.

Trump bombed the shit out them like he said he would and he actually kept his word. 
i, too, like my warmongers in the shallow state
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  • hangook77
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #67 on: September 14, 2021, 01:18:19 pm »
i, too, like my warmongers in the shallow state

Personally, I though the war in Iraq and in Syria was dumb.  But whichever is in power, they do what they are told. 


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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #68 on: September 14, 2021, 01:54:21 pm »
wait im confused now. was trump doing as he was told or was "bombing the shit out of them" somehow not warmongering?
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #69 on: September 14, 2021, 01:59:42 pm »
wait im confused now. was trump doing as he was told or was "bombing the shit out of them" somehow not warmongering?

If only we could fully understand the complex mind of Hangook77. I wonder if, somewhere, there is some sort of "Being John Malkovich"-like portal into the mind of one of waygook.org's greatest thinkers. To experience what it's like to be him for just 15 minutes would be magical.


  • hangook77
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2021, 02:08:02 pm »
wait im confused now. was trump doing as he was told or was "bombing the shit out of them" somehow not warmongering?

Did someone tell Trump to bomb the shit out of ISIS or did he do it himself while the diplomats shit the shit out of themselves?  Either way, he ended ISIS and wasn't in Syria for a 20 year war, though there may still be a handful of troops in a couple of areas.  Either way, it calmed down and ISIS shattered and scattered which they did not under Obama.  Big difference between that and a costly war invasion. 

Most politicians don't keep their word and Trump did.  But the elites don't like that.  They had to rig it to get a puppet in who would do what they were told.  They just didn't expect old Joe to go down hill so fast.  They are scared of crazy Kamala who although not senile is even more loopy than old Joe.  She's an airhead who gets asked about socialism and starts giggling like a crossover between a hyenia and a nervous hysterical school girl and can't even keep it together.  Better find the fraud in the 2020 before it comes down to crazy Kamala being your President.  Old Joe is dying.  Cause when Kamala is in there giggling and not doing much else, you'll all regret it no matter how libtarted you are. 
« Last Edit: September 14, 2021, 02:12:01 pm by hangook77 »


Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #71 on: September 14, 2021, 02:48:19 pm »
on Sept 11, 2001 crowed that his building was now the tallest in Manhattan
So what?
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as prez, Hung the Kurds out to dry
The Kurds are still there and holding on
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released 5000 hardened Taliban from prison--in exchange for nothing
We're working with the Taliban now.
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2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office ( https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207  ) someone's full of BS here, and I doubt it's the BBC
I stand corrected. Thank you for the information. If so, a black mark for Trump.

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Then I pointed out that Trump's behavior on the day was not very Presidential.
Who gives a shit if his behavior was presidential or not? Out of the three other characters, he did the least damage. Less damage than Clinton too if you include him. 

If you're getting more worked up over Trump being "unpresidential" than invading countries and voting for dubious wars, then you need to get your priorities straight

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Biden: got US out of Afghanistan (I noticed you left that off your list)
That was Trump's plan. Kudos on Biden for following through though. Just like he did with Operation Warp Speed.

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Bin Laden was the "worst guy in all of this", and Obama was the one who got him.  Trump, in case you missed it, downplayed OBL's role just a few weeks ago, saying he only got one hit, though "it was a bad one".  Well, okay, if you ignore the 1998 embassy bombings and the USS Cole.
Who gives a shit if Trump downplayed it or not? How is that important compared to Syria getting invaded?

Good for Obama killing Bin Laden. I guess that excuses Syria.


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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2021, 02:57:19 pm »
[whatever i just read]



just trying to figure out if you support warmongering or not.

i guess "dropping bombs is not warmongering" would've sufficed
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  • hangook77
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #73 on: September 14, 2021, 03:08:42 pm »


just trying to figure out if you support warmongering or not.

i guess "dropping bombs is not warmongering" would've sufficed

Still a big difference between invading countries and bombing the shit out of torturers, killers, and rapists (like Yazidi women)  who were also trying to export terrorism to the west.  BTW, ISIS ran over existing countries.  Making them scatter so that these countries could have their countries or lands back is not quite the same thing.  (Well, most of their lands back, I guess.)   No large scale invasion or permanent occupation. 


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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #74 on: September 14, 2021, 03:12:07 pm »
so it's cool if we bomb the shit out of a country/people so long as we don't put boots on the ground. got it
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2021, 03:40:09 pm »
so it's cool if we bomb the shit out of a country/people so long as we don't put boots on the ground. got it
Yeah Trump was the least effed up amongst all of them and he still wasn't good. He did at least try and get the ball rolling on withdrawal in spite of the bombings.

Still, why some people think Trump is bad because he announced a boxing match compared to people who were big on the Iraq War and Syria is beyond me.

"Presidential" Who cares at this point if "Presidential" gets us that crap.


  • fka
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2021, 03:54:00 pm »
Yeah Trump was the least effed up amongst all of them and he still wasn't good. He did at least try and get the ball rolling on withdrawal in spite of the bombings.

Still, why some people think Trump is bad because he announced a boxing match compared to people who were big on the Iraq War and Syria is beyond me.

"Presidential" Who cares at this point if "Presidential" gets us that crap.

Nobody compared announcing a boxing match to starting wars except you. That train got rolling because hangook made a false claim about what Biden was doing on the 20-year 9/11 anniversary. In fact, Mr C's comparison was between announcing a boxing match and attending memorial events. If the question had been "What's worse - announcing a boxing match or starting wars?" then there's a pretty good chance that you might find your views in alignment with "some people".

Please take this as a friendly reminder as to why people take issue with the way you frame arguments.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2021, 03:57:49 pm by fka »


  • Mr C
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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2021, 04:04:35 pm »
Yeah Trump was the least effed up amongst all of them and he still wasn't good. He did at least try and get the ball rolling on withdrawal in spite of the bombings.

Still, why some people think Trump is bad because he announced a boxing match compared to people who were big on the Iraq War and Syria is beyond me.

"Presidential" Who cares at this point if "Presidential" gets us that crap.

Uh, this was all in response to Hankook's lie that Biden hid out in the WH on Sept 11, surely attempting to impugn Biden's character and behavior as unpresidential.  Whereas Trump met with first responders.

I corrected him by pointing out that Biden had attended all three crash sites.  Meanwhile, the most Presidential character of all time, in Hankook's eyes, was providing commentary for a boxing match, not meeting with first responders.

Then you, Mr DeRangementino, jumped in and said I was making out Trump to be "the bad guy in all this" meaning the whole war on terror fiasco, with, might I add, an absolutely delusional mischaracterization of Trump's drone statistics.

I was only talking about his behavior compared to Biden's on September 11, 2021.  You just made up the rest because you want to argue about something.  HTH, HAND, GSO.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2021, 04:19:49 pm by Mr C »


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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2021, 04:04:52 pm »
Nobody compared announcing a boxing match to starting wars except you. That train got rolling because hangook made a false claim about what Biden was doing on the 20-year 9/11 anniversary. In fact, Mr C's comparison was between announcing a boxing match and attending memorial events. If the question had been "What's worse - announcing a boxing match or starting wars?" then there's a pretty good chance that you might find your views in alignment with "some people".

Please take this as a friendly reminder as to why people take issue with the way you frame arguments.

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Re: The former President speaks.
« Reply #79 on: September 16, 2021, 06:56:34 am »
Why isn't hankook's disinformation being moderated?