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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #340 on: September 06, 2021, 01:36:19 pm »
it's all good dude. just got worried for a second. glad you're doing ok lol. i think you're second point is pretty good (but it really depends on where you put "the left" as i dont think anyone would say bill maher is a leftist)
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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #341 on: September 06, 2021, 01:48:13 pm »
it's all good dude. just got worried for a second. glad you're doing ok lol. i think you're second point is pretty good (but it really depends on where you put "the left" as i dont think anyone would say bill maher is a leftist)

Bill Maher has been a liberal for years.  But, the new left is leaving him behind in the dust (with their woke rdiiculousness).  He is slowly becoming red pilled even though he won't admit it.  He still has some liberal / libertarian positions on things.


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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #342 on: September 06, 2021, 01:55:27 pm »
i'm sure he will admit it. he'll just call himself a "classical liberal" or whatever fun label centrists/center-right pundits give themselves these days
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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #343 on: September 06, 2021, 07:37:26 pm »
He lost his job for saying "the guys who did 9/11 were not cowards."

He qas not trying to be funny, he was being deadly serious and he was making an observation that "qualified" people would be unwilling to say publicly but the public needed to hear.

Meanwhile the "qualified" people were telling us it would be a cakewalk and Afghanistan would be transformed.
BS. He was stirring the pot, pure and simple.

His schtick is to say things that most consider tasteless. In this case, he went too far for his audience and lost his job.

IMO most people would consider killing innocent victims a cowardly act, no matter how it is perpetrated.


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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #344 on: September 06, 2021, 07:39:15 pm »
The value insher is twofold-
1) He us one of the few political figures out there who won't parrot either sides' talking points and only agree with their "team."
2) He is sometimes a barometer for discontent on the left. In fact, because he won't just mindlessly cheerlead the Democrats, he can be seen as an indicator where certain moderates or independents are leaning.
A political figure? What political position does he/has he held?


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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #345 on: September 07, 2021, 07:44:21 am »
Bill Maher is a maverick

isnt that what logan paul fans are called


Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #346 on: September 07, 2021, 10:57:23 am »
BS. He was stirring the pot, pure and simple.
I don't think he was stirring the pot at all. I think he was making a serious point, which happened to be the same as the person he was interviewing.

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He agreed with his guest, conservative pundit Dinesh D'Souza, that the 9/11 terrorists did not act in a cowardly manner (in rebuttal to President Bush's statement calling them cowards). Maher said, "We have been the cowards. Lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building. Say what you want about it. Not cowardly. You're right."

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His schtick is to say things that most consider tasteless.
Not really. I mean, most people comics say tasteless stuff from time to time, that's part of comedy, but he isn't running his show like it's Howard Stern or Opie & Anthony. He doesn't do political interviews with pundits and politicians and treat it as some cornball affair.

I think you're confusing "tasteless" with "I happen to disagree with the point he's making from time to time"

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IMO most people would consider killing innocent victims a cowardly act, no matter how it is perpetrated.
Such as lobbing cruise missiles from thousands of miles away that happen to take out civilians from time to time? Drone strikes? Shooting up civilians at check points? Napalming a village? Firebombing a city?

This is more cowardly than the guys with box cutters going up against whatever they may face in the unknown? Guys with AKs taking on the most well-equipped and trained military in the world? Guys with RPGs going up against Abrams tanks?

I mean, I wouldn't call them brave either, but I think cowardly ignores the reality of the strength disparity as well. It's not like they can just climb into F-22s and take on the US military in a 1v1 joust.
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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #347 on: September 07, 2021, 11:05:24 am »
A political figure? What political position does he/has he held?
I was struggling for a term. Figure might not be the best. He's not a pundit, he's not just a comic, he's not a commentator...I just used figure.

I didn't say he was a politician.
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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #348 on: September 07, 2021, 01:04:15 pm »
i'm sure he will admit it. he'll just call himself a "classical liberal" or whatever fun label centrists/center-right pundits give themselves these days

That's why he has spent the last several years bashing Trump and advocating for Democrats.  Hardly a right winger to me unless you're a Bush style sellout. 


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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #349 on: September 07, 2021, 01:31:43 pm »
He lost his job for saying "the guys who did 9/11 were not cowards."

He qas not trying to be funny, he was being deadly serious and he was making an observation that "qualified" people would be unwilling to say publicly but the public needed to hear.

Meanwhile the "qualified" people were telling us it would be a cakewalk and Afghanistan would be transformed.

He was right. Do any of you realize how big your balls gotta be to fly a plane into a building. Cowards don't do that. Man, it's terrifying enough landing on a runway in perfect weather.


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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #350 on: September 07, 2021, 02:28:10 pm »
He was right. Do any of you realize how big your balls gotta be to fly a plane into a building. Cowards don't do that. Man, it's terrifying enough landing on a runway in perfect weather.

I have always been comforted by the assumption the pilots of the planes I've been on were actually completely comfortable landing in perfect weather.  I'd hate to picture the pilots sh*tting their pants in fear as I look out the window as the runway approaches thinking "We've arrived!" 


Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #351 on: September 07, 2021, 02:35:04 pm »
I have always been comforted by the assumption the pilots of the planes I've been on were actually completely comfortable landing in perfect weather.  I'd hate to picture the pilots sh*tting their pants in fear as I look out the window as the runway approaches thinking "We've arrived!" 
To paraphrase a line from the movie The Rock- "The moment you don't respect a landing, it kills you."

Ive probably experienced 600-1000 landings as a passenger in my lifetime, a few that were hairy, most fine, but always there was...its really hard to explain...calm tension?

Anyone who hasnt flown a long time isnt used to landings being "normal" and anyone who has done plenty has experienced at least one sudden gust of wind or something else that reminds you something can happen at any time.

So 'calm tension' is the best way I'd put it. Pilot is relaxed and in control but...
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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #352 on: September 07, 2021, 07:05:01 pm »
I don't think he was stirring the pot at all. I think he was making a serious point, which happened to be the same as the person he was interviewing.
Not really. I mean, most people comics say tasteless stuff from time to time, that's part of comedy, but he isn't running his show like it's Howard Stern or Opie & Anthony. He doesn't do political interviews with pundits and politicians and treat it as some cornball affair.

I think you're confusing "tasteless" with "I happen to disagree with the point he's making from time to time"
Such as lobbing cruise missiles from thousands of miles away that happen to take out civilians from time to time? Drone strikes? Shooting up civilians at check points? Napalming a village? Firebombing a city?

This is more cowardly than the guys with box cutters going up against whatever they may face in the unknown? Guys with AKs taking on the most well-equipped and trained military in the world? Guys with RPGs going up against Abrams tanks?

I mean, I wouldn't call them brave either, but I think cowardly ignores the reality of the strength disparity as well. It's not like they can just climb into F-22s and take on the US military in a 1v1 joust.
They were high on religion. I would compare them to, for example, the guy high on mushrooms who just shot and killed a 21-yar-old father in a Miami Beach restaurant or the killer in Lakeland on meth who thought God was talking to him.

I think they are more alike the atrocities you mention than different.

Tastelessness is often a part of comedy, yes. And that's what he is, a comedian.  People didn't laugh so he got fired.



Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #353 on: September 07, 2021, 08:10:52 pm »
They were high on religion. I would compare them to, for example, the guy high on mushrooms who just shot and killed a 21-yar-old father in a Miami Beach restaurant or the killer in Lakeland on meth who thought God was talking to him.

I think they are more alike the atrocities you mention than different.
I actually wont disagree with you for at least some, maybe even most of them. That's a pretty apt comparison.

However for others, like say a Mohammed Atta who both organizes and does it, it is more akin to the atrocities you mentioned.

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Tastelessness is often a part of comedy, yes. And that's what he is, a comedian.  People didn't laugh so he got fired.
And the Dixie Chicks? I don't think anyone would say they deserved it, but they got canceled.

I think it was more due to the hysteria of the time than content. Everyone was super "patriotic" then. It wasn't until the Iraq War soured that a statement like Maher's started to become scceprable. Certainly now no one eould object as strongly given close to two decades of fighting and them emerging semi-victorious.
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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #354 on: September 07, 2021, 11:11:15 pm »
The Lions Club has two fundamental rules:

No talk about religion.
No talk about politics.

Over a hundred years of social service. My dad was a longstanding member. When i go back, i'll join.

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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #355 on: September 08, 2021, 12:01:42 am »
I actually wont disagree with you for at least some, maybe even most of them. That's a pretty apt comparison.

However for others, like say a Mohammed Atta who both organizes and does it, it is more akin to the atrocities you mentioned.
And the Dixie Chicks? I don't think anyone would say they deserved it, but they got canceled.

I think it was more due to the hysteria of the time than content. Everyone was super "patriotic" then. It wasn't until the Iraq War soured that a statement like Maher's started to become scceprable. Certainly now no one eould object as strongly given close to two decades of fighting and them emerging semi-victorious.
The Dixie Chicks are country music stars and could have guessed what might happen due to the stand they took. But I don't think they deserved it. However, it's often said there are two things you should never talk about at work--politics and religion. They were at work.

I would never compare them and the stand they took to maher.


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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #356 on: September 22, 2021, 02:13:11 am »
Do these same people have time to watch TV? To play video games? To watch porn?

Most Americans say they want to work out more but just don't have the time.

https://www.eatthis.com/news-lifting-weights-once-per-week/

Eye-opening research from the CDC published in Preventing Chronic Disease that studied over 32,000 U.S. subjects found that the average American actually has about five hours of free time daily, which is usually wasted on screen time.

There's nothing wrong with wasting some time on TV or Instagram here and there, but these findings just go to show our schedules may not be quite as packed as they seem.


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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #357 on: September 22, 2021, 08:46:31 pm »
Most Americans say they want to work out more but just don't have the time.

https://www.eatthis.com/news-lifting-weights-once-per-week/

Eye-opening research from the CDC published in Preventing Chronic Disease that studied over 32,000 U.S. subjects found that the average American actually has about five hours of free time daily, which is usually wasted on screen time.

There's nothing wrong with wasting some time on TV or Instagram here and there, but these findings just go to show our schedules may not be quite as packed as they seem.

Once knew a company owner who said if his employees were working out after work it meant they weren't working hard enough at work.

I have to agree, though, that slothfulness has become ubiquitous thanks to technology, which unless you're homesteading off the grid, is pretty much all pervasive. Even nomad reindeer herders in Siberia have satellite TV.


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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #358 on: September 22, 2021, 08:52:21 pm »
Back to US health care. I've spent more than a week trying to get an appointment with a specialist and after jumping through hoops still haven't got one. And it took one phone call and five emails to straighten out a bill for lab work--$385 for a blood test--with the insurance company and doctor's office.


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Re: It makes me sick to my stomach
« Reply #359 on: September 23, 2021, 03:36:49 am »
So after five emails and one phone the cost to you was $0? Looks like it's covered under medicare. Correct me if I'm wrong though.