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  • hangook77
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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: TaLK Program to end
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2021, 08:03:19 am »
TaLK is strictly a maximum of 15hrs per week of work at your school. Zero obligation to be there beyond those 15hrs.

EPIK starts off at 1.8 depending in where you are...the more popular and saturated the city is, the more likely they offer level 3 pay of 1.8

https://www.epik.go.kr:8080/contents.do?contentsNo=49&menuNo=278

I had heard some schools will still make you sit there 8 30 to 4 30 while most don't.  As for 1.8 it is irrelevant as EPIK does not hire level 3 anymore.  They haven't for years.  Next level in SMOE is 2 million and in the provinces 2.2 million. 

Contract does vaguely say that hours may be in agreement between the head teacher and the scholar.  It does function as an afterschool program.  I did hear of some schools in the past making some of them stay all day though that may be rare.  Most I think just do afternoons? 
« Last Edit: August 12, 2021, 08:10:31 am by hangook77 »


  • waygo0k
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    • September 27, 2011, 11:51:01 am
    • Chungnam
Re: TaLK Program to end
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2021, 11:02:56 am »
The pay scale posted IS EPIK's current pay scale. As you can see they've incorporated gyeonggi (which happened ~2 years ago).

A tiny number of rogue TaLK schools did make their scholars do a full 40hr work week, but they were breaking the contract terms by doing that. The scholar would have had every right to complain to the TaLK office and/or local (or provincial) office of education. And by a tiny number...i mean less than 10 out of hundreds.

The biggest problem a lot of scholars had was that they were placed in the most rural of rural places in the country...the 리s 면s...where there was literally nothing but old people. If you were in a 읍 or 군 you hit the jackpot as you would have other scholars around, EPIK teachers and possibly a supply of people your age attending a national University somewhere nearby. And of course the luckiest scholars were generally the ones placed in actual cities (busan, daegu, cheonan, daejeon, gwangju etc).

The program has so been responsible for some marriages and babies (western and Korean!). Would have been awesome of some 19yo got accepted into the program and revealed his/her parents had met each other there 19 years earlier.


  • hangook77
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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
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Re: TaLK Program to end
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2021, 12:26:42 pm »
The pay scale posted IS EPIK's current pay scale. As you can see they've incorporated gyeonggi (which happened ~2 years ago).

A tiny number of rogue TaLK schools did make their scholars do a full 40hr work week, but they were breaking the contract terms by doing that. The scholar would have had every right to complain to the TaLK office and/or local (or provincial) office of education. And by a tiny number...i mean less than 10 out of hundreds.

The biggest problem a lot of scholars had was that they were placed in the most rural of rural places in the country...the 리s 면s...where there was literally nothing but old people. If you were in a 읍 or 군 you hit the jackpot as you would have other scholars around, EPIK teachers and possibly a supply of people your age attending a national University somewhere nearby. And of course the luckiest scholars were generally the ones placed in actual cities (busan, daegu, cheonan, daejeon, gwangju etc).

The program has so been responsible for some marriages and babies (western and Korean!). Would have been awesome of some 19yo got accepted into the program and revealed his/her parents had met each other there 19 years earlier.

Even within EPIK the pay is different.  So, not sure where the old GEPIK falls under.  Busan tops out at 2.4 million with no additional allowances?  Rural area with salary and bonuses school allowances can get close to 3 million (both excluding housing).  Also renewal allowance of 2 million (which I hear SMOE doesn't pay).  So, public schools are all over the place.  It is rather pitiful to top out at 2.4 million in 2021 and that's after 2 or 3 years or more there? 


  • waygo0k
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Re: TaLK Program to end
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2021, 01:35:43 pm »
Old GEPIK is gone. EPIK now covers the whole of gyeonggi.

Basically, the more popular areas teachers want to go to will have lower pay...while those in the boonies will get a little boonies bonus per month as an incentive to be there.

It makes sense as teachers are still flocking to the popular areas (Busan, Daegu, Incheon, Gyeonggi) even though they're being offered low pay...might as well take the piss as much as you can and save some budget money while impressing the head ajeoshi in charge of finances.


  • hangook77
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Re: TaLK Program to end
« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2021, 07:37:20 am »
Old GEPIK is gone. EPIK now covers the whole of gyeonggi.

Basically, the more popular areas teachers want to go to will have lower pay...while those in the boonies will get a little boonies bonus per month as an incentive to be there.

It makes sense as teachers are still flocking to the popular areas (Busan, Daegu, Incheon, Gyeonggi) even though they're being offered low pay...might as well take the piss as much as you can and save some budget money while impressing the head ajeoshi in charge of finances.

Some of those cities still paying that low just shows how little conscience some of these ajossis have as long as they get their pay raise.  Of course a lot of the kids get lied to by the recruiters telling them stuff from 10 years ago, that it's good money etc when it's not.  As living costs go up more by more within 3 or 4 years no raise, it's done. 


Re: TaLK Program to end
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2021, 12:30:24 pm »
Honestly, if you found a 9 to 6 kindy paying upper 2's or close to 3

These jobs don't exist

The hakwon wages stayed stuck at 2.1 mil with longer work hours.   

that's better



Re: TaLK Program to end
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2021, 12:31:00 pm »
Honestly, the freedom, the relaxed work environment, the good pay (in relation to living cost) made Korea so great.  I am sure China is like that in many ways now as a work environment. 

Just a daily reminder that hangook has not spent a single minute living or working in China.


Re: TaLK Program to end
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2021, 12:32:41 pm »
the lowest EPIK pay is 1.8 for 40hrs a week (160hrs a month).

Jesus Christ. When I was in EPIK in 2013 the minimum was 2.2m, and then came rural allowances or multi school allowances on top of that. The good old days.


  • waygo0k
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    • September 27, 2011, 11:51:01 am
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Re: TaLK Program to end
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2021, 01:06:16 pm »
Some of those cities still paying that low just shows how little conscience some of these ajossis have as long as they get their pay raise.  Of course a lot of the kids get lied to by the recruiters telling them stuff from 10 years ago, that it's good money etc when it's not.  As living costs go up more by more within 3 or 4 years no raise, it's done. 

As long as people keep applying to EPIK in droves, things will either stay the same or worsen...which essentially equates to things worsening regardless as Korea gets more expensive and fewer kids are born.