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  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2021, 03:32:13 am »
Treadmills will be limited to a maximum of 6km/h (3.7 mph).

Can't shower at the gym.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2021, 06:00:49 am by L I »


  • KimDuHan
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    • January 15, 2015, 11:48:59 am
    • Seoul
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2021, 05:08:32 am »
This is why I love Korea!

Also love telling Korean Canadians about this and then denying it and saying itís not true when your in a large group. Because you show them this and they fight tooth and nail to disprove this. Good times!


  • JNM
  • Waygook Lord

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    • January 19, 2015, 10:16:48 am
    • Cairo, Egypt (formerly Seoul)
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2021, 05:34:47 am »
KimDu Huh?


  • VanIslander
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Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2021, 05:42:51 am »
Treadmills will be limited to a maximum of 6km.

Can't shower at the gym.
Seriously?

So, sweating is discouraged AT THE GYM!


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2021, 05:57:50 am »
Increased heart rate = heavier breathing. Thatís where the fear comes from.

But more exercise improves one immune system.


  • Kyndo
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    • March 03, 2011, 09:45:24 am
    • Gyeongsangbuk-do
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2021, 09:35:02 am »
But heavy breathing puts *others* at risk, so improvements of *your* immune system is irrelevant! ;D


  • Kayos
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    • March 31, 2016, 07:13:57 pm
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Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2021, 09:42:15 am »
Luckily I have my own small home set up, and don't live near Seoul. :D


Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2021, 09:45:03 am »
This seems more of a means to placate gym owners who're complaining about loss of income.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2021, 11:26:11 am »
But heavy breathing puts *others* at risk, so improvements of *your* immune system is irrelevant! ;D

Well, the others have to reduce their speed as well, meaning reduced immunity for them, too if weíre looking at it that way.

But coronavirus isnít even dangerous to in shape people under the age of 80 anyways.

Well, I guess someone could catch coronavirus in a gym then later spread it to others outside of thereÖ but the stronger oneís immune system, the quicker theyíll neutralize and eliminate the virus, meaning less contagion.

Having a robust immune system is the biggest step one can take to protect not just themselves, but others.

That and getting vaccinated, but thereís a vaccine shortage in Korea, so best to focus on what is actionable.


  • hangook77
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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
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Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2021, 12:14:15 pm »
I don't trust gyms to sanitize and clean each weight and machine several times a day.  Masks with heavy breathing sucks and is uncomfortable.  Also the heat with masks is terrible.  Air conditioning at most gyms here is never enough when it is on and with open windows.  (Some gyms have no air con.)  Either way, maybe 2022, I'll get back to one.

I usually always shower at home anyways.  Except for a couple of gyms, I dislike most tiny open communal showers anyways. 



  • hippo
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    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2021, 01:26:33 pm »
I have to wonder if this is a way to give the gyms a way to stay open while discouraging people from going to them.  You cannot work out hard, so they become less useful if not useless.  Then again, it hurts the gyms because fewer people will be signing up under these conditions or taking the breaks allowed under some year-long gym contracts. They did not want to be so bold as to close the gyms, but they really donít want people going there.  It would be nice to have fewer people working out in confined spaces but this is a strange way to do it.

I stopped going there a long time ago because I didnít see people there practicing the finest hygiene or consistently wearing masks. 
« Last Edit: July 13, 2021, 01:32:37 pm by hippo »


Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2021, 03:01:18 pm »
I have to wonder if this is a way to give the gyms a way to stay open while discouraging people from going to them.  You cannot work out hard, so they become less useful if not useless.  Then again, it hurts the gyms because fewer people will be signing up under these conditions or taking the breaks allowed under some year-long gym contracts. They did not want to be so bold as to close the gyms, but they really donít want people going there.  It would be nice to have fewer people working out in confined spaces but this is a strange way to do it.

I stopped going there a long time ago because I didnít see people there practicing the finest hygiene or consistently wearing masks. 

Yep, gym owners can't weather the loss of income from a full on lockdown and people pay annual membership fees, you'd have to refund them.
This 120bpm measure sounds silly, but it's a decent compromise to keep all parties happy. Still, I can see ridiculousness ensuing, people shouting at one
another to stop breathing so heavily or sweating so much.

The vast majority of the treadmill crowd shouldn't be at the gym anyway, walk outside for goodness sake.


  • leaponover
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    • March 05, 2012, 12:08:16 pm
    • Iksan, S. Korea
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2021, 03:38:29 pm »
Yep, gym owners can't weather the loss of income from a full on lockdown and people pay annual membership fees, you'd have to refund them.
This 120bpm measure sounds silly, but it's a decent compromise to keep all parties happy. Still, I can see ridiculousness ensuing, people shouting at one
another to stop breathing so heavily or sweating so much.

The vast majority of the treadmill crowd shouldn't be at the gym anyway, walk outside for goodness sake.


Aren't you the one complaining about spit on the street and dirty air?  Kind of contradictory to tell people to 'walk outside' isn't it?  Maybe they don't like spit and ultra fine dust either?


Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2021, 07:54:38 am »
Aren't you the one complaining about spit on the street and dirty air?  Kind of contradictory to tell people to 'walk outside' isn't it?  Maybe they don't like spit and ultra fine dust either?

People jog/run/walk in/at parks, riversides with walking paths etc. Iíve never seen anyone jogging in the streets.

As for the air quality, yes, itís bad, but not everyday.

These same people take the elevator to get to the gym, which is up 2 flights of stairs, so they can walk on a treadmill.



  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7168

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2021, 09:56:56 am »

You sure did have a different opinion of coronavirus in the context of people protesting police brutality.

What accounts for this difference?

UmÖ. Most Westeners are NOT in shape.

If they were, there would have been way less deaths.

I guess protesting is a way to get a bit of exercise, though.

But the media was hypocritical in calling Trump supporters at rallies murderers while calling BLM marchers brave heroes. Either big gatherings are spreading covid or theyíre not. Canít have it both ways.

Sometimes good intentions increase harm more than good.

Because of BLM protests, there is less policing in black neighborhoods, resulting in a much higher murder rate. Way more deaths than before.

The extent to which the protests increased death by spreading coronavirus is unknown. Incalculable like I said. But it did in fact lead to more death. Definitely true.


  • tylerthegloob
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Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2021, 09:57:57 am »
resulting in a much higher murder rate. Way more deaths than before.
source?
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  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2021, 10:00:52 am »
source?

The murder rate and crime rate overall had been steadily declining for decadesÖ but now police are afraid of being accused of being white supremacists. The murder rate spiked after the BLM protests and has been high ever since.


  • tylerthegloob
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Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2021, 10:01:45 am »
The murder rate and crime rate overall had been steadily declining for decadesÖ but now police are afraid of being accused of being white supremacists. The murder rate spiked after the BLM protests and has been high ever since.

...source?

here's one possible effect of the protests:
https://www.umass.edu/news/article/black-lives-matter-protests-have-led-to-up-to-a-decrease-in-police-homicides

University of Massachusetts Amherst economist Travis Campbell finds places that had BLM protests experience a 15-20% decrease in police homicides over the ensuing five years, around 300 fewer deaths
« Last Edit: July 14, 2021, 10:04:13 am by tylerthegloob »
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  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7168

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Seoul gym music limited to 120 bpm to limit COVID-19
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2021, 10:05:54 am »
Ok, one has to weigh a decrease in police homicides (comparatively small) vs an increase in civilian homicides (comparatively large).

Because of BLM, more people overall are dead as a result.

Communities became more unsafe due to increased gang shootings.