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  • Lazio
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    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2021, 10:05:40 am »
Dude, you have not explained why 2.8X2.8m = 8m2 elicited this "??? So what is 8m2" response.

That is all I wrote, and you clearly did not understand what 8m2 is.

It was meant as: what is 8 square meters TO YOU?
Also, from your post it wasn't clear whether you mention the box of 2.8 meters per side for the former or the latter measurement:
I think they're saying 8m2, not (8m)2.  That makes it a box 2.8 meters per side.

While we are at it: Can you explain how would you fit 8-10 times eight square meters into your one room apartment? Unless you moved since or you happened to live in the largest one room apartment in the country.

My apartment rental is 700,000W .  It's just a one room, but has a nice view, 10 minute walk to school, and is in a good area w/ subway station in the basement.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2021, 10:20:49 am by Lazio »


  • Mr C
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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2021, 10:51:14 am »
It was meant as: what is 8 square meters TO YOU?
Also, from your post it wasn't clear whether you mention the box of 2.8 meters per side for the former or the latter measurement:


What latter measurement?  There was only one. 

Just not buying this.


  • Lazio
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2021, 10:55:48 am »
What latter measurement?  There was only one. 

Just not buying this.

I quoted your post. 8m2, vs. (8m)2

So how big is your apartment if you don't mind me asking.


  • tylerthegloob
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2021, 11:01:50 am »
from the simple english wiki, because i havent been in a math classroom in a long time and i'm simple

A "square metre" is not the same thing as a "metre square" - although it is true that exactly 1 square metre is exactly 1 meter square. But that only works for the numbers 1 and 0; no others.

For example, a square that is 2 metres long and 2 metres wide has 4 square metres of area.

2m * 2m = 4m2

But a square that is 4 metres squared would have 4 metres on each side. This means it would have 16 square metres of area.

4m * 4m = 16m2

That is, (4m)2 is 4 meters squared, whereas 4m2 is 4 square meters.


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  • Mr C
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2021, 11:27:35 am »
I quoted your post. 8m2, vs. (8m)2

So how big is your apartment if you don't mind me asking.

Oh, brother.  I'll tell you this:  It's at least 4 m X  12 m, which is what it needs to be to hold six students. 

See, not hard to figure, if you, y'know, understand how area works. 
« Last Edit: July 12, 2021, 11:29:07 am by Mr C »


  • tylerthegloob
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2021, 11:30:21 am »
how high are the ceilings though..? :(
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  • Mr C
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2021, 11:34:48 am »
how high are the ceilings though..? :(
Maybe because it's Monday, but this thread is irking me more than the whole egg roll thing.


Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2021, 11:35:44 am »
how high are the ceilings though..? :(

For that matter... how low are the floors?


Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2021, 11:51:20 am »
If Mina has 60 apples and gives 12 to Greg, what is the height of your walls?


  • Lazio
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2021, 12:20:13 pm »
Oh, brother.  I'll tell you this:  It's at least 4 m X  12 m, which is what it needs to be to hold six students. 

See, not hard to figure, if you, y'know, understand how area works. 

+ a humongous bathroom and an entry way...
Wow! You are doing great!
Gotta go to work now and make money, so I can afford to live in a nice, big place like you.


Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2021, 12:57:19 pm »
Do we have to answer this question with math? Suppose a kindergarten has 7 classes, and 1 child with a positive Covid test. An unknown number of teachers (X) greater than 2 now require a two week quarantine, leaving the school understaffed. How many weeks of online class (Y) should they have? Solve for Y and make a graph.

 Thursday evening they told us this week would be all online. Twenty minutes before the kids went home Friday they changed their mind and had us unpack all the books we were sending home for online class because hagwons are not included in the schools having to close rule. Sunday I get a text that a kid (not in my homeroom) and her father were tested Saturday and are Covid positive with symptoms. Most of us got tested Sunday and had to turn up this afternoon after our results came back. Currently organizing books for the parents to pick up and preparing for online class starting Wednesday.

The two homeroom teachers from the class with the positive case are on 2 week quarantine and are expected to teach class from home. Another teacher got 'inconclusive' this morning, and if her results come back positive they told her to teach online class from her home (or even from the hospital if she has to stay there). We'll find out about the last few who tested this morning...

It took me like an hour to prepare for 3 days of 80 minute online classes and now we're sitting around asking our boss why we cant leave early (my boss got tested this morning and hasn't got her results back, but is here anyway...)


  • leaponover
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2021, 02:14:59 pm »
So glad I'm not in the 'capital area'.  This all sounds like a nightmare.  I don't think I have a high enough math ability to live there, that's for sure!


  • hangook77
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2021, 01:26:04 pm »
schools still normal here for now.  Summer vacation will be here soon.  Still have a short English camp at my main school for part of next week.  Still normal for now.  Maybe will be canceled August 23rd or so when the schools get back.  That'd be sweet.  Last year with online classes most schools never asked me to do much of anything.  I think one school had me call all the kids from a list and ask a couple of simple questions. 


  • L I
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2021, 08:48:26 am »
I'm surprised an adult wouldn't understand the very simple concept of square meters/feet.

How comically ironic the person speaking with insulting condescension is the one who got it wrong.

Hagwon classrooms are definitely big enough for more than 1 student. Classrooms aren't bigger than 2.8mx2.8m?

Firstly, 2.8mx2.8m is less than 8m2.

Secondly, take a tape measure to see how big a meter is. It's big! Make a square. Each side is one meter. How many of those big@$$ squares can fit in a room? That's how many square meters the room is.

The legal parameters for a socially distanced hogwon would be at least 16 square meters for a teacher and one student. (Why the f wouldn't a teacher count as a person?) Anything shy of 24 square meters wouldn't cut it for adding another student ... unless the teacher is instructing remotely beamed to a hagwon classroom screen, which I doubt. If that were the case - online learning - the kids wouldn't need to travel to the hagwon.

consider a typical hagwon classroom size of somewhere between 15 and 20 square meters.

a 23 square meter room [...]. That is a big room in a hagwon. I have seen plenty, smaller than that.

TL; DR - Social distancing rules will have a massive impact on Seoul's hagwon industry. Instruction will go online.

(If hagwons are scared enough of potential penalties to follow the rules that is. Not sure if they are. Maybe. Also, parents pay the bills and parents are afraid of coronavirus. That'll mean a lot, too.)


  • D.L.Orean
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2021, 09:20:14 am »
How comically ironic the person speaking with insulting condescension is the one who got it wrong.


We are all familiar with the basic concept of rounding numbers up or down, aren't we? If not here's a link for you. Maybe you can learn something.

https://www.factmonster.com/math-science/mathematics/rounding-numbers-rules-examples-for-fractions-sums

 2.82842712475² was rounded to 2.8². Doesn't change the point. A hagwon classroom should be big enough to fit more than one student.

And...
 Let’s not act immature. It’s lame. Best to cut back on the inanity.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2021, 09:26:48 am »
To person inspecting hagwon: “I know the rule is at least 8 square meters per person, but how about we go a bit under. Are you familiar with the concept of rounding? 7.84 square meters per person should suffice, right?”


  • D.L.Orean
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2021, 09:36:45 am »
To person inspecting hagwon: “I know the rule is at least 8 square meters per person, but how about we go a bit under. Are you familiar with the concept of rounding? 7.84 square meters per person should suffice, right?”

Fortunately, we aren't talking with any inspectors and are instead only discussing the concept of space. A hagwon classroom should be big enough to fit more than one student.

Let’s not act immature. It’s lame. Best to cut back on the inanity.

You're actively bringing down the quality of this forum. We should all be aiming to contribute high quality posts. Be better.


  • L I
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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2021, 09:57:10 am »
A hagwon classroom should be big enough to fit more than one student.

Did you see what was written above? One teacher plus one student is what would be in a classroom sized 16 square meters to 23.99 square meters.

Ironically, the copy and paste job in attempt to mock and insult actually applies to you. Hopefully you’ll up your writing game someday and be open minded enough to admit you were wrong. Highly unlikely… but anything’s possible.


  • D.L.Orean
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Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2021, 10:02:46 am »
Did you see what was written above? One teacher plus one student is what would be in a classroom sized 16 square meters to 23.99 square meters.

Ironically, the copy and paste job in attempt to mock and insult actually applies to you. Hopefully you’ll up your writing game someday and be open minded enough to admit you were wrong. Highly unlikely… but anything’s possible.

Teachers don't count. And do you really think that they won't count 23.99m² as 24m²?

I believe that if a city inspector was in a classroom 23.99m² he would sign off on 3 students being allowed.

I hope one day you'll live up to your own words and actually try to inject this forum with high quality posts.


  • L I
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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Is your hagwon open?
« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2021, 10:07:53 am »
Teachers don't count.

Says who? The link said people. Are teachers not people? We’re talking about social distancing here.