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  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

    • 6114

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2021, 07:56:32 am »
hmmmmmmmm

Hmmmm?  I mean if this guy makes 4 or 5 million won a month and spends months claiming everyone else should make low wages like 2.1, it's a bit hypocritical don't you think?  As for me, I never bragged about making more until this post and only then in response to trolling.  I believe everyone's wages should go up.  More teachers should be pushing back on this or be willing to go elsewhere.  The goal is to get Korea to smarten up. 
Happy Teachers Day to New Orleans.


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1188

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2021, 09:08:26 am »
Hmmmm?  I mean if this guy makes 4 or 5 million won a month and spends months claiming everyone else should make low wages like 2.1, it's a bit hypocritical don't you think?

I challenge you to quote anyone writing that!

If you can't, you are a liar and this only exists in your head.
If you can provide an example, I will not only apologize to you but will jump aboard and copy/paste your posts all over this board to help spread the idea.


  • 745sticky
  • The Legend

    • 2596

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2021, 09:47:26 am »
and only then in response to trolling. 

your own trolling, yes


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

    • 6114

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2021, 10:47:14 am »
I challenge you to quote anyone writing that!

If you can't, you are a liar and this only exists in your head.
If you can provide an example, I will not only apologize to you but will jump aboard and copy/paste your posts all over this board to help spread the idea.

Well first he criticizes me for criticizing low wages and he defends it.  Then, he turns around months later and claims to make more than me.  (That is hypocritical.  It is okay for him to make more but everyone else should make far less.)  Except for this post, I have never bragged about my salary.  But, my point is many Korean ESL salaries are too low and need to go up.  More and more expats need to push back and raise their voices on it.  If at first you don't succeed, try try again.  Keep at it and then keep at it some more.   A lot of English teachers are part of the problem as much as the Koreans. 
Happy Teachers Day to New Orleans.


Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2021, 10:54:29 am »
Hmmmm?  I mean if this guy makes 4 or 5 million won a month and spends months claiming everyone else should make low wages like 2.1, it's a bit hypocritical don't you think? 
Where did I say everyone should make 2.1 million?

You're confusing me stating facts about conditions with an endorsement of an individual accepting a certain wage under the assumption that their primary motivation is wages, not something else.


  • Liechtenstein
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1959

    • February 15, 2019, 04:39:00 pm
    • NE Hemisphere
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2021, 11:24:53 am »
At a public school? How are you pulling that?

When I left Korea in 2016 I was making: 2.7 + 400 housing + 100 rural + 150 multiple schools. I cleared 3.1 every month. I had a really nice 1 bedroom flat that cost 200 a month.

Not sure how many gigs like that there are these days. I heard EPIK loweredf their top level from 2.7 to 2.5. True?


  • OnNut81
  • The Legend

    • 2653

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2021, 11:39:40 am »
DippedinBlush has to be wondering how in hell this thread jumped into another one of these discussions.  That being said...

Hangook will not be providing backing evidence of anyone claiming people should make low wages like 2.1 because it has never happened.  He'll sidestep the issue like he did above. 


Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2021, 12:02:57 pm »
on top of the fact that no one here even makes 2.1, making the claim even more absurd


  • Liechtenstein
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1959

    • February 15, 2019, 04:39:00 pm
    • NE Hemisphere
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2021, 12:03:47 pm »
I started at 2.1 in 2005. Are wages still the same? That's incredible.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 8135

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2021, 05:47:09 pm »


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 8135

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2021, 05:50:39 pm »
I heard EPIK lowered their top level from 2.7 to 2.5. True?
Depends on the location. Gyeonggi, the largest province in Korea, used to be capped at 2.7, but is now 2.5 (from what I've read).


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1188

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2021, 10:04:55 pm »
DippedinBlush has to be wondering how in hell this thread jumped into another one of these discussions.  That being said...

Hangook will not be providing backing evidence of anyone claiming people should make low wages like 2.1 because it has never happened.  He'll sidestep the issue like he did above. 

Yeah, I didn't really expect to get through his thick skull. As predicted, he went with "option number one".
For me, there is only one question left: Whether it is alright to have a good laugh at his character and posts, or not.
You know, the same way you wouldn't laugh at someone in a wheelchair...


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1188

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2021, 10:06:51 pm »
Depends on the location. Gyeonggi, the largest most populous province in Korea, used to be capped at 2.7, but is now 2.5 (from what I've read).

fixed it for ya
« Last Edit: June 27, 2021, 10:08:28 pm by Lazio »


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 8135

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2021, 07:46:37 am »
The lowering of salaries happened to A LOT of NETs, not just some.

Gyeonggido, the province with the largest population and thus the most NETs, moved the cap down from 2.7 to 2.5.

(Even at places where salaries are staying the same, they're actually going down due to inflation. No cost of living increases.)

In Seoul, Korea's biggest city, public school NETs no longer get the two million won re-signing bonus.

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Nerdzio: "Seoul is not the biggest city. In terms of square kilometers, Pohang is twice as big."


Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2021, 07:46:54 am »
EPIK pays 1.8-2.7.
https://www.korvia.com/korvia-epik/epik-salary-levels/

http://www.epik.go.kr/contents.do?contentsNo=49&menuNo=278

EPIK effectively starts at 2.0 because they don't hire level 3 anymore.

and even then effectively starts at 2.1 because almost everyone has either the multiple schools bonus or the rural bonus (at least everyone i know).

and even then it effectively starts at 2.5 because of housing allowance (but if you include the housing allowance it really triggers a lot of people)


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1188

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2021, 08:28:59 am »
The lowering of salaries happened to A LOT of NETs, not just some.

Gyeonggido, the province with the largest population and thus the most NETs, moved the cap down from 2.7 to 2.5.

(Even at places where salaries are staying the same, they're actually going down due to inflation. No cost of living increases.)

In Seoul, Korea's biggest city, public school NETs no longer get the two million won re-signing bonus.

___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ _________________

Nerdzio: "Seoul is not the biggest city. In terms of square kilometers, Pohang is twice as big."


When it comes to cities, the terms "largest" or "biggest" pretty much always refer to the population. Biggest city in the US? Would you say Sitka, Alaska? No, that would mean NYC for everyone.

But when it comes to areas such as countries, states, provinces, "largest" would refer to the physical size of it.
Largest country in the world? Everyone would say Russia and not China.
Largest US state? No one would say California, unless they are morons and actually think that's the state with the largest area.


  • leaponover
  • Expert Waygook

    • 785

    • March 05, 2012, 12:08:16 pm
    • Iksan, S. Korea
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2021, 03:51:57 pm »
I think the bridge in the video for "Bridge Over Troubled Water" is a pretty cool bridge.


  • gogators!
  • Waygook Lord

    • 6723

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Songs with the best bridges~
« Reply #57 on: July 09, 2021, 12:04:58 am »
"Fred, can I take it to the bridge?"
James Brown