POLL, South Korea's hygiene standards

Aren't you another one of these posters that has moved away from Korea yet still comes here to post?

"Marty will still come here to argue"
- MayorHaggar, gogators!, Adel...all of whom have allegedly moved on

Nah, still here! Spend more time helping others on other platforms but love to check in here to see if you’ve grown bored yet with rehashing the same stupid points that you made back on Dave’s.

You know perfectly well that I was talking about ethnic Koreans, not citizens of a country already subject to heavy travel and immigration restrictions. You also know that if, in response to tensions with North Korea, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez announced to a roaring crowd of Latinos that she was proposing a ban entry to all people from Confucian-influenced cultures, you would not be slamming her critics for not understanding business negotiation tactics.

So the question is, did you think that misrepresenting my point was actually going to serve your cause, or was it just a reflex?

I could easily see Donald Trump bumbling and saying he would ban "All Koreans" and have the media start a circus in which they claim he meant to ban all Koreans, North and South, and Trump waffling on it, maybe talking about "They need to pay their fair share or be banned" and I wouldn't give a flying F. Immigration is a privilege, not a right.

Did a bunch of radical Confucianists destabilize a bunch of countries using armed terrorism and topple the World Trade Center? Are those countries, which happen to be Confucian, also completely trashed in terms of record keeping and identification? Would certainly affect how I saw things.

So the question is, did you think that misrepresenting my point was actually going to serve your cause, or was it just a reflex?

It’s deep English culture; unlikely they know why they are doing it.

The current bickering culture evolved over thousands of years; democratic debate, presenting premises, using logical fallacies, attempting to persuade, etc. If the culture values intellectual disputation, then it is motivated to apply  logical fallacies (even thought it says these are bad) in order to create arguments so that it can infinitely dispute. I occasionally check in, and see that it’s been going on for 10 years here and on Dave’s.

Koreans don’t do this because they have a different philosophical lineage which didn’t create this specific argument-style, and because they value other things (like positive relations, which argument destroys). I always wonder if these serial arguers have ever considered adapting to the local culture and just forgetting about pointless argument? But it’s kinda an addiction for people, I guess.

Dude, here are your own quotes from this very thread, in which you've spent a significant amount of time calling out everyone else for their lack of consistency.

Yes, I am not consistent in the standards I apply with judging people on things like spitting or hand-shaking vs. immigration policy in relation to global ideological terror that over the course of declared has killed tens of thousands and destabilized countries across the world, with America as a prime target.

You got me. That's a totally on-base and relevant analogy and hypothetical. As opposed to my off-base, irrelevant analogy/hypothetical of comparing pet defecation on the street to spitting on the street or hand-shaking to eating from the same bowl in the spread of disease.

Thank goodness posters like gogators! and Adel call me out on this nonsense while everyone else refrains from wild analogies and hypotheticals. They're seeing things clearly.

Yes, I am not consistent in the standards I apply with judging people.

A signature quote just waiting to be used.

Hey, I just found one of those angry ESL teacher blogs where a lot of the really weird anti-Korean stuff used to turn up.

https://desperatekorea.blogspot.com/

I haven't read all of it but from what I can gather it's a British couple who took separate but nearby EPIK jobs in Jeollabuk-do in 2010.

Some choice quotes:

Yeah, a pair of unhappy people, feeding off each other, magnifying every difficulty, finding fault at every opportunity.  I hope they've found someplace to be happy. 

The Singapore metro comment struck me, so I looked up my comments about it on my blog:  https://seoulpatch.blogspot.com/2014/03/singapore-street-scenes_28.html

It is excellent, but I also think Seoul's metro is excellent.

Hey, I just found one of those angry ESL teacher blogs where a lot of the really weird anti-Korean stuff used to turn up.

https://desperatekorea.blogspot.com/

I haven't read all of it but from what I can gather it's a British couple who took separate but nearby EPIK jobs in Jeollabuk-do in 2010.

Damn, what a hateful pair of people. They look exactly how I expected them to when I opened the blog as well, haha.