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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #100 on: May 31, 2021, 12:39:04 pm »
He went to Cornell, one of the best universities in the world. Low acceptance rate there.

https://www.4icu.org/top-universities-world/


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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #101 on: May 31, 2021, 12:59:11 pm »
He went to Cornell, one of the best universities in the world. Low acceptance rate there.

https://www.4icu.org/top-universities-world/

as for for MY post not making for good reading... well... shit man i'll let that one marinate

alright i let that marinate long enough. you think THIS makes for good reading? yikes. you might as well tell us that C comes after B in the alphabet song, dude.and that's on top of it being absolutely irrelevant to, well, anything.
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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #102 on: May 31, 2021, 01:06:36 pm »
The point is heís a smart guy- way smarter than average. Not an Ďidiotí as was asserted.
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Hereís a good quote:

ďThe problem is that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the people who are most certain of them."  -Bill Maher


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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #103 on: May 31, 2021, 01:09:32 pm »
Tyler, Bill Maher is on TV. Are you on TV? Didn't think so. A Tyler goes on the foot, not on the head. Maher goes on the head. Be a shoe, know your place.



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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #104 on: May 31, 2021, 01:09:41 pm »


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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #105 on: May 31, 2021, 01:14:23 pm »
now THAT'S an intriguing question you've just raised CO2.

LI, how do you feel about tai lopez?
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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #106 on: May 31, 2021, 01:19:27 pm »
Heís a scammer. Not on TV. Not a regularly running show anyways. Didnít win any Emmys. No uni degree. Celebs who took a picture with him probably didnít even know he was. They get photobombed at parties all the time. Heís intelligent, sure, but uses that intellect to extract money from others. Bad guy. Plays loose with truth.
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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #107 on: May 31, 2021, 01:24:28 pm »
the metrics by which you evaluate people are truly fascinating
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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #108 on: May 31, 2021, 01:28:31 pm »
There are clues to which one can make an educated guess as to whether someone will be worth listening to. Little things make it more likely or less likely that someone knows what theyíre talking about and also has your best interests at heart.


Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #109 on: May 31, 2021, 01:51:38 pm »
There are clues to which one can make a educated guess as to whether someone will be worth listening to. Little things make it more likely or less likely that someone knows what theyíre talking about and also has your best interests at heart.

Fixed it!

Look for clues? What am I Sherlock Holmes? What's wrong with just listening to what someone has to say and deciding for yourself if it makes sense?

I don't care if it's Bill Maher, Einstein or my 5th grade student who spends half the lesson with his finger up his nose, I'll listen to their argument, scrutinise to other information and decide for myself. I don't accept "pre-packaged" truth from anyone, particularly when it doesn't stand up to rational scrutiny.

the metrics by which you evaluate people are truly fascinating

They truly are.
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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #110 on: May 31, 2021, 01:54:19 pm »
He went to Cornell, one of the best universities in the world. Low acceptance rate there.

https://www.4icu.org/top-universities-world/
Side note- this is something that really isn't noticed much. The disparity in difficulty between different classes and universities.

My High School humanities class, which had a really good reputation and getting As in it basically signaled that you were able to handle courses at a Northwestern/Duke/Chapel Hill/Michigan/Wisconsin level was harder than anything I took in Uni for undergrad, event at that level. Only my ConLaw class came close. Even at UofM a lot of the undergrad stuff was weaker. It wasn't until Grad School stuff that you really got into more complicate material. One other (odd) exception- My military history course at Community College. For some reason it was harder than the same course at Undergrad at the full Uni level.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cornell undergrad was fundamentally of more educational utility than some masters program at East Bumlove St. A&T.  Not all graduate degrees are created equal. Then again, in some cases, a masters is a serious step ahead for certain subjects, no matter then university.


Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #111 on: May 31, 2021, 01:55:24 pm »
Iíll trust the opinion of a successful celebrity over a random person online.
You don't get Maher's purpose, nor why he was cited.

I cited him specifically for his citing of a study that showed that people on the left were significantly more likely to be misinformed about the risks of death by COVID. He put it in easy to digest form, from which people should then go and do their own research.

It does not deal with the origin of the virus, or how deadly the virus actually is, only that people's perceptions are skewed. He postulates that this may be due to the steady diet of fear porn that is being shoveled unto American audiences compared to the rest of the world.

I mean, in the U.S. you have virtue signalers who triple mask or wear their mask in the car or other extreme stuff. When called on it, their response is something the along the lines of "Trump said to drink bleach (which by the way, he didn't), so don't tell me I'm wrong." As though that somehow justifies a state of panic.

he isnt a "politically incorrect straight shooter who knows what hes talking about" hes an idiot who acts like an asshole and gives lukewarm dumbed down takes to satisfy his boomer audience.
There is one thing he is- A barometer. I'm sure there's someone similar on the right you can think of- whether it be Tucker who occasionally does go off the reservation (as opposed to Hannity or Shapiro who never do) or Cernovich or perhaps Gutfeld. If they start to break with traditional Republican orthodoxy, it can be an indicator of broader discontent within the party at the current policy. Similar with Maher. His pushbacks on SJWdom, fat-shaming and COVID hysteria serve as sort of a barometer for a wing of the Democratic Party which doesn't want to go hard left and if they sense it is going too much in that direction, might rebel.

That is the function Maher serves.


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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #112 on: June 01, 2021, 04:39:29 am »
Bill Maher: 41 Emmy Nominations
Bill Maherís haters: 0 Emmy Nominations

To say you donít like someone without articulating why doesnít make for good reading.
Your posting of statistics and quotations without any commentary makes for terrible reading.


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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #113 on: June 01, 2021, 05:55:28 am »
Actually, no. You and your ilk nitpicking makes for bad reading.

The point is to be educational and express a cogent thought.

Article writers are generally more well informed, insightful, and eloquent than the average rando posting here, who is often none of the above. Or at least very little of the above.


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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #114 on: June 01, 2021, 07:53:25 am »
He went to Cornell, one of the best universities in the world. Low acceptance rate there.

https://www.4icu.org/top-universities-world/

argument from authority and its not even good authority lol. again, what in his background makes him an expert in anything? as aristocrat already mentioned dude doesnt even have a masters


The point is heís a smart guy- way smarter than average. Not an Ďidiotí as was asserted.
___________________ ___________________ __________

Hereís a good quote:

ďThe problem is that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the people who are most certain of them."  -Bill Maher

is he describing himself there? also you're arguing semantics, you can be "way smarter than average" and still act like an idiot/have idiotic opinions/be wrong on your tv show where people listen to aforementioned opinions.


Heís a scammer. Not on TV. Not a regularly running show anyways. Didnít win any Emmys. No uni degree. Celebs who took a picture with him probably didnít even know he was. They get photobombed at parties all the time. Heís intelligent, sure, but uses that intellect to extract money from others. Bad guy. Plays loose with truth.

your system of values (if you could call it that) is actually bizarre


There is one thing he is- A barometer. I'm sure there's someone similar on the right you can think of- whether it be Tucker who occasionally does go off the reservation (as opposed to Hannity or Shapiro who never do) or Cernovich or perhaps Gutfeld. If they start to break with traditional Republican orthodoxy, it can be an indicator of broader discontent within the party at the current policy. Similar with Maher. His pushbacks on SJWdom, fat-shaming and COVID hysteria serve as sort of a barometer for a wing of the Democratic Party which doesn't want to go hard left and if they sense it is going too much in that direction, might rebel.

That is the function Maher serves.

i mean, i guess? i wouldnt say that sjwdom/fatshaming/covid hysteria are "hard left" though, people just have that perception because msm disproportionately pushes it to keep ratings up, and all of it seems like pretty low-hanging fruit tbh. from what ive seen of maher he doesnt approach it with any particular amount of nuance. i could find most of his opinions in a facebook comments section, so if anything hes a barometer of people who like to complain about stuff, or something
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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #115 on: June 01, 2021, 10:16:13 am »
One other thing people are missing in all this "listen to the experts" talk- the ability to tell when an expert is bsing or not.

People who lack experience or the ear in picking up that stuff will almost always fall for it. They'll just look at credentials and accept it because the subject is too difficult or they're already inclined to.

The other key ability is to be able to tell when an expert is simply hedging out of risk, has some broader goal, is trying to protect you or their representative from themselves, or lacks information, or is trying to smooth over a lack of consensus or is outright manipulating things.

A good barometer is one's ability to comprehend legalese. If you struggle with that, you will probably struggle with parsing the statements of experts.

On the other end, another good way of parsing things is to have street smarts. A lot of "uneducated" people are actually pretty good at filtering bs from experts. They can pick up on emotional and behavioral inconsistencies.

I'm not good at it by any means, but it is a skill that one needs to develop.


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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #116 on: June 01, 2021, 11:25:44 am »
Or even better, look up the expert and assess what kind of biases they might have.
Plenty of Environmental science experts work for oil and gas companies. They know their science forwards and back, no doubt about it, but they have powerful incentives to support certain findings and dismiss others.

If in doubt, do a bit of googling!


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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #117 on: June 01, 2021, 11:30:48 am »
Have you noticed the most voracious proponents of the lab leak theory are Republicans?


Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #118 on: June 01, 2021, 11:38:44 am »
Have you noticed the most voracious proponents of the lab leak theory are Republicans?

You truly are bizarre.


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Re: Why I still maintain the Wuhan lab was the origin of the virus
« Reply #119 on: June 01, 2021, 11:42:53 am »
Itís true. Trump pushed it heavily. So did many Republican politicians. So ask oneself which is the most honest party of the highest integrity? Exactly equal? Nah. Oneís got at least a slight edge. Which one is it?