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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2021, 12:56:20 pm »
What is South Africa’s position? They seem to be somewhat supportive.

Ask the government and you will get one answer, ask the man in the street and you will get a different one.
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2021, 01:02:52 pm »
Rubbish all of it. It should be a struggle between the real representatives of the people: The Ottomans vs. The Mamluks.

The Grand Vizier will triumph once again.


  • pkjh
  • The Legend

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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2021, 03:25:30 pm »
Canada, USA, UK, EU, Australia, and New Zealand have declared Hamas a terrorist organization.
Like the IRA used to be?

Ones man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2021, 03:34:31 pm »
Iran, Russia, Syria, Egypt, Turkey, and China are pro Hamas.

Western countries are not.


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2021, 04:35:11 pm »
Like the IRA used to be?

Ones man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
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Nelson Mandela!
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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2021, 04:42:36 pm »
Iran, Russia, Syria, Egypt, Turkey, and China are pro Hamas.

Western countries are not.

The US is one of Israel's biggest ally so China, countries China influences and countries opposed to the US in general are going to support Hamas.
Only a true simpleton will base their opinion on so narrow a metric as to what side a government backs. As others have said, most leaders and governments don't give a crap
about who they throw their support behind as long as it's the winning horse.

Hamas is not Palestine, it's a militant resistance movement and one of many. Israel has militant extremist movements too. To put it bluntly, what would you do if your family was thrown out their home so
a bunch of settlers from Brooklyn could move in? Palestinians are fighting back against apartheid, shocking, right? From the perspective of many, the entire state of Israel is a terrorist state. The fact that
they're white and rich doesn't change that.

"Truth is on the side of the oppressed"


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2021, 05:36:52 pm »
Here is an interesting perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1eDHCJp-oE
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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2021, 06:53:06 pm »
Yes, China the brutal anti-Muslim apartheid regime really cares about Palestine. Yup. Just ask the Uighurs.


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2021, 07:52:59 am »
Yeah, well maybe Hamas shouldn't fire rockets into Israel or Tel Aviv.  If someone were firing a gun at my home, I'd grab mine and fire back.  If folks said I was bad for firing back, they'd have to kiss my arse.


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2021, 07:56:01 am »
Having lived and worked in China, I don't support much, and believe less, of what comes out of Beijing. However, a hearty congratulations to them for speaking up about the atrocities being perpetuated upon the Palestinian people by the racist apartheid regime led by that criminal Netanyahu.

Israel accuses Chinese state TV of 'blatant antisemitism'
Wed., May 19, 2021, 11:32 a.m.·2 min read

BEIJING (AP) — Israel’s Embassy in China is protesting what it describes as “blatant antisemitism” on a program run by the overseas channel of state broadcaster CCTV discussing the ongoing violence in Gaza and elsewhere.




You should see the garbage being printed in the Korean media.  Same type of BS.  Israel bad, Hamas good, etc.  Not sure if lots of media firms around the world get together and read from the same script hoping it'll make them look cool instead of like the losers they really are.  Heaven forbid any journalist nowadays have an independent thought or go against the grain.  Most of them around the world are fake news, from CNN to these fellows. 


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2021, 07:57:16 am »
Sure I find it repugnant that Israel wants to claim antisemitism anytime a complaint is made. However I’ve heard from numerous people about how jews still control everything, although these days it is implied with “bankers”.

Palestine has a right to exist as does Israel. The current methods israel is using seem to be borrowed from a nazi playbook.

Yeah, Israel should just let rockets fly into their country and kill their people.  Only Nazis defend themselves.


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2021, 08:09:38 am »
Heaven forbid any journalist nowadays have an independent thought or go against the grain.
in what way would supporting israel, a state supported by most powerful countries (and people) on earth, be going against the grain?


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2021, 08:10:04 am »
Yeah, Israel should just let rockets fly into their country and kill their people.  Only Nazis defend themselves.





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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2021, 08:21:15 am »
Palestinians killed: 94% male, 6% female.

Israelis killed: closer to 50/50.

Meaning Israel is trying to kill murderers only.

Unfortunately Hamas is using human shields which causes innocent civilians to die as well.

But the percentage of non combatants killed is higher of the Israeli side.

Fortunately for them they have better technology so they can shoot down most of the missiles headed for population centers.

Lots of child soldiers in Palestine, most of whom are male. Males are naturally more aggressive than females. Kids there are brainwashed from a young age to hate Israel.


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2021, 08:24:21 am »
There was never a Palestine.  There were many Empires on these lands after the original Jewish inhabitants were kicked out by Romans.  The Romans burned their cities to the ground and exiled them all.  For centuries they were exiled from their lands and forced to live in other lands always ready for persecution depending on which King came to power.  Hitler wasn't the first ruler to go after the Jews and scapegoat them.  Throughout history they had good times and bad times.  But they often had limited rights and were very much second class citizens through out history with limited rights.  After the Holocaust, most decided to return to their ancestral lands.  Their occupiers didn't like that though and have been fighting tooth and nail ever since.  The most recent Empires to occupy these lands were the British Empire and prior to that the Ottoman Empire.  There was never a Palestinian nation.


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  • The Legend

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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2021, 08:26:01 am »
Imagine if Europeans didn't treat the Jews so bad for like the last 2000 years, perhaps there would've been no Israel, and no Israel-Palestinian conflict.


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2021, 08:49:22 am »



Image is from pro Palestine website.

Trump’s not president anymore, so that last frame is irrelevant. Not sure if was ever true. The first frame is suspect, too.

Borders have been the same since 1967 when several Arab countries tried to destroy Israel but failed.

Palestinians angry about something that happened ages ago in the 1940s is similar to Koreans hating Japanese people because of World War 2 and prior. They weren’t alive then.


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2021, 08:51:43 am »
Palestinians angry about something that happened ages ago in the 1940s is similar to Koreans hating Japanese people because of World War 2 and prior. They weren’t alive then.

but certainly not similar to jewish people wanting to return to their ancestral lands


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2021, 08:57:47 am »
There was never a Palestine.  There were many Empires on these lands after the original Jewish inhabitants were kicked out by Romans.  The Romans burned their cities to the ground and exiled them all.  For centuries they were exiled from their lands and forced to live in other lands always ready for persecution depending on which King came to power.  Hitler wasn't the first ruler to go after the Jews and scapegoat them.  Throughout history they had good times and bad times.  But they often had limited rights and were very much second class citizens through out history with limited rights.  After the Holocaust, most decided to return to their ancestral lands.  Their occupiers didn't like that though and have been fighting tooth and nail ever since.  The most recent Empires to occupy these lands were the British Empire and prior to that the Ottoman Empire.  There was never a Palestinian nation.

What flavour Kool-Aid did you have?


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2021, 08:59:59 am »

Palestinians angry about something that happened ages ago in the 1940s is similar to Koreans hating Japanese people because of World War 2 and prior. They weren’t alive then.
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Could this be equated in the slightest way to Jews and the holocaust?