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China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« on: May 20, 2021, 10:22:57 am »
Having lived and worked in China, I don't support much, and believe less, of what comes out of Beijing. However, a hearty congratulations to them for speaking up about the atrocities being perpetuated upon the Palestinian people by the racist apartheid regime led by that criminal Netanyahu.

Israel accuses Chinese state TV of 'blatant antisemitism'
Wed., May 19, 2021, 11:32 a.m.·2 min read

BEIJING (AP) — Israel’s Embassy in China is protesting what it describes as “blatant antisemitism” on a program run by the overseas channel of state broadcaster CCTV discussing the ongoing violence in Gaza and elsewhere.

In a tweet, the embassy said “we have hoped that the times of the ‘Jew’s controlling the world’ conspiracy theories were over, unfortunately antisemitism has shown its ugly face again.”

“We are appalled to see blatant antisemitism expressed in an official Chinese media outlet," the tweet said.

On the Tuesday CGTN broadcast, host Zheng Junfeng questioned whether U.S. support for Israel was truly based on shared democratic values, saying “some people believe that U.S. pro-Israeli policy is traceable to the influence of wealthy Jews in the U.S. and the Jewish lobby on U.S. foreign policy makers.”

“Jews dominate finance and and internet sectors,” Zheng says, speaking in English. “So do they have the powerful lobbies some say? Possible.”

Zheng then accused the U.S. — China’s top geopolitical rival — of using Israel as a “beachhead” in the Middle East and a as proxy in its campaign to defeat pan-Arabism.

Spokesperson Erez Katz Volovelsky said Wednesday the embassy had nothing to add to its tweet and had so far received no reply from CGTN, which CCTV operates for foreign audiences, similar to Russia’s RT.

There was no immediate comment from CCTV and Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said he was “not aware of the situation."

“China has repeatedly stated its position on the Palestine-Israel situation," Zhao told reporters at a daily briefing.

China has long been a strong backer of the Palestinian cause and in recent days the Foreign Ministry has castigated the U.S. for blocking a statement in the United Nations Security Council condemning the violence.

Yet, since establishing formal diplomatic relations with Israel in 1992, Beijing has nurtured close economic, technological and military ties, including the purchase of early model Israeli drones.

Judaism is not one of China's officially recognized religions and stereotypes about Jews as shrewd businesspeople and market manipulators are common among the Chinese public.


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Re: China dares to speak the truth
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2021, 10:27:44 am »
So what? The CCP will support any position that's beneficial to them and use it as political leverage. I'm not congratulating them for sh*t.

They're thrilled that a fresh conflict has risen in Palestine as it gives them another opportunity to deflect attention away from their own human rights atrocities and crimes, they can f**k right off with their "support" of Palestine.


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Re: China dares to speak the truth
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2021, 10:30:47 am »
Three words come to mind with regards to what China has said.

Pot, kettle, black.

They are hardly in any position to criticise any country. Clean up your own act CCP before you take the moral high road. We should also note that the CCP only takes the moral high ground when they can benefit from it. Human rights in any form is the last thing the CCP considers i.e. Falun Gong, Uighyrs, Tibet, Hong Kong etc, etc etc.

Liechenstein as one was has lived there you shouldn't be fooled by CCP propaganda, shame on you.
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Re: China dares to speak the truth
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2021, 10:36:14 am »
I love irony. Hats off to China.  #FtheUyghurs


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Re: China dares to speak the truth
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2021, 10:46:41 am »
I support the Palestinians and thus agree with an opinion which supports mine on this issue. As an aside, which government on this planet isn't a propaganda machine? 


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Re: China dares to speak the truth
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2021, 10:50:35 am »
I support the Palestinians and thus agree with an opinion which supports mine on this issue. As an aside, which government on this planet isn't a propaganda machine? 

You can support Palestine, no problem but to be fooled by a regime that has not one bone of integrity in their bodies and is only saying it for political gain and has not a grain of care about human rights, is just crazy.

Newsflash, they don't care a flying fig about the Palestinians, they are just a means to an end.
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Re: China dares to speak the truth
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2021, 10:53:36 am »
I support the Palestinians and thus agree with an opinion which supports mine on this issue. As an aside, which government on this planet isn't a propaganda machine? 

Sure I find it repugnant that Israel wants to claim antisemitism anytime a complaint is made. However I’ve heard from numerous people about how jews still control everything, although these days it is implied with “bankers”.

Palestine has a right to exist as does Israel. The current methods israel is using seem to be borrowed from a nazi playbook.


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Re: China dares to speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2021, 11:02:17 am »
On request, I changed the name of this thread to something a little bit more descriptive.


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Re: China dares to speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2021, 11:19:11 am »
also you cant really "dare" to do something if there are 0 consequences for it. it's not like china is showing any courage by speaking out
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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2021, 11:50:15 am »
The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say “O Muslim, there’s a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.” This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians.

https://samharris.org/podcasts/why-dont-i-criticize-israel/


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2021, 11:58:37 am »
The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say “O Muslim, there’s a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.” This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians.

https://samharris.org/podcasts/why-dont-i-criticize-israel/

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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2021, 12:11:12 pm »
Sam Harris: one of the smartest people speaking on world issues.


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2021, 12:12:42 pm »
"Again, I realize that not all Palestinians support Hamas. Nor am I discounting the degree to which the occupation, along with collateral damage suffered in war, has fueled Palestinian rage. But Palestinian terrorism (and Muslim anti-Semitism) is what has made peaceful coexistence thus far impossible."

He is absolutely discounting the degree to which the occupation has fueled Palestinian rage. I'm sure if you made a top 10 list of best ways to radicalize someone, killing their children would be high on that list.

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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2021, 12:15:47 pm »
How many Israeli children were killed by Palestinian terrorists? A lot.


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2021, 12:24:34 pm »
How many Israeli children were killed by Palestinian terrorists? A lot.

You really want to go there?


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2021, 12:29:14 pm »
Terrorists launch missiles into Israel, killing people at random.

Civilian deaths in the other side are accidental. Great effort is taken to avoid / minimize them.

Big difference.


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2021, 12:29:55 pm »
Israel: Good
Hamas: Bad


Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2021, 12:40:16 pm »
Israel: Good
Hamas: Bad

I have a strong allegiance to Palestinian independence and disdain for Zionists, but until you came along, everyone who posted seemed intelligent and perceptive enough to NOT make this an Israel vs. Palestine argument is it will just end up going nowhere. You're the only one who actually thinks waygook.org is the place where someone is going to change their mind on such a divisive issue.
I have no intention to change your mind as your opinion isn't terribly important or worth the effort of refuting... so congratulations, I guess.

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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2021, 12:46:17 pm »
Canada, USA, UK, EU, Australia, and New Zealand have declared Hamas a terrorist organization.

China said they are not and is friends with them.

What is South Africa’s position? They seem to be somewhat supportive.


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2021, 12:53:09 pm »
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the two sides could make peace? Wouldn't it be wonderful if the world could stop fighting with each other and then the military budgets could be put to better use, like eliminating poverty which is possible. Ahhh dreams, many people are just plain evil and just want more and more and more. Sad to say this but it is the truth.

I must admit, I cannot get my head around some people's dream to dominate the world, why would you want that?
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