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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #100 on: May 22, 2021, 09:02:27 pm »
The Gaza Strip is ruled by Hamas.

Israel has been completely out of the Gaza Strip since 2005.

Zero Israelis live there or go there.

Instigatory first shots result in return fire.

If Hamas didn't keep firing rockets there wouldn't be civilian casualties.


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #101 on: May 22, 2021, 09:58:23 pm »
That was a long video of pontificating, much like many talk on here. Didn't convince me, wasn't interesting, and didn't learn anything. A waste of time.

Some topics can't be reduced to single sentences (more complex).

Discussion of those topics takes longer (deeper analysis).

 
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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #102 on: May 22, 2021, 10:12:37 pm »
[Sam Harris at 3:21]

There's another thread about bromance. You, Sam Harris and Magnum P.I over here come to mind. Are you capable of not sharing the views of a someone who isn't a conservative, right-wing white guy?

There's no reason Palestinians shouldn't have the basic human right to autonomy and their own state.
There's no reason Jews, Muslims and Christians shouldn't be able to live in the same space.
There's no reason for The Holy Land to be the exclusive home of one group of people, nowhere in the Torah does it say so.
There's no reason to treat people of one race or ethnic identity different than the other, that's apartheid, son.

You're as hypocritical as Israel which calls itself a Democracy. I've no love for the Saudi royal family or the government, but even Saudi Arabia allows Jews and Christians to live and work there and it's been a damn monarchy for 1500yrs.
Be a man and call yourself a fascist, or move to China/Israel, it's better than being a weasel who lives in and enjoys a Democratic country while condemning the core tenants of liberty.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think I speak for everyone here when I say nobody is going to watch another nauseating fluff piece video you post.
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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #103 on: May 22, 2021, 10:43:49 pm »
Sam Harris can intelligently speak at length on a variety of topics because he is so well read. Bill Maher has similar views. They love liberty. So do I.


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #104 on: May 22, 2021, 10:44:49 pm »
Why TREVOR NOAH and JOHN OLIVER are wrong about ISRAEL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SazutwDaEg


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #105 on: May 23, 2021, 06:52:27 am »
Israel is one of the most free and most prosperous countries in the world. Not only is Israel a booming economy and a wellspring of innovation, it is the only democracy in the Middle East. So why is it so controversial to support the Jewish state? Stephen Harper, the 22nd Prime Minister of Canada, lays out several fundamental truths about America’s most critical ally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXy4NXbuE-k



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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #106 on: May 23, 2021, 10:35:03 am »
Israel is one of the most free and most prosperous countries in the world. Not only is Israel a booming economy and a wellspring of innovation, it is the only democracy in the Middle East.


That really depends on how you define "democracy" and "The Middle East". Numerous countries in that region have elected parliaments. And, of course, there are about 5 million Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza who can't participate in Israeli democracy, so again, "democracy" is a very conditional term.

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According to The Economist Group's Democracy Index 2020 study, Israel is the only democratic country (qualified as a "flawed democracy", ranked #28 worldwide) in the Middle East, while Tunisia (#53 worldwide) is the only democracy (also "flawed democracy") in North Africa.[1] The level of democracy in nations throughout the world published by Freedom House, a U.S.-based,[2] U.S. government-funded[3][4] advocacy organization, and in various other freedom indices, report the Middle Eastern and North African countries with the highest scores are Israel, Tunisia, Turkey, Lebanon, Morocco, Jordan and Kuwait. Countries that are occasionally classified as partly democratic are Egypt, Iran, and Iraq. The remaining countries of the Middle East are categorized as authoritarian regimes, with the lowest scores held by Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_the_Middle_East_and_North_Africa


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Re: China speak out against Israeli / Palestinian conflict.
« Reply #107 on: May 23, 2021, 11:59:35 am »
"According to The Economist Group's Democracy Index 2020 study, Israel is the only democratic country in the Middle East."

Yes. I agree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_the_Middle_East_and_North_Africa#Annual_assessment