The ease of sending money out of China.

actually i wanna come in here and say that i have VIDEO PROOF that at least one member of bts can do at least 17 pushups and at least 4 pullups. i'm pretty sure that in THE BIG BOOK OF RULES you're not allowed to call someone skinny if they're pound for pound stronger than you so i'm gonna need VIDEO PROOF that you can do one or both of those things. until then, BTS are not skinny they're s h r e d d e d

ayo kyndo feel free to slap this bad boy down in the aforementioned thread if this is too off-topic (or split the whole BTS convo here into a new thread if you want to do that you sly dog)

people ran out of useful things to say in like the first 3 posts just let the thread run its course

Dude, don't whine because you make a nonsense claim and get pushback on it.

Whine?  You keep rambling on about things not related to the original post.

people ran out of useful things to say in like the first 3 posts just let the thread run its course

First two of them were mine.  Not sure what the deal is after those.  A couple folks arguing on this thread about this, that, and the BTS thing. 

Whine?  You keep rambling on about things not related to the original post.

This started with you complaining about the salaries and people willing to accept 2.1.
Then Kyndo pointed out how this was due to people willing to come because they were into Korean culture and have fun for a gap year or two.
You said this wasn't true with "I don't buy the majority come over here to meet bts or super junior.  Like maybe .02%.  That's a bunch of propoganda."
Kyndo then cited his experience in conference organizing where culture was listed as a factor by a significant number of people.

This should have been the end of the argument with you going "Well, I guess things have changed. People are coming here just for culture and it IS driving down wages." But you didn't do that. You doubled down.

Then, I finally showed up by pointing out how you probably aren't the most accurate or reliable analyst of what young people are into and their motivations.

Again, rather than acknowledging your limited knowledge and expertise on this or providing some kind of analysis or source, you doubled down. This time with "If you're 30 and screming BTS, you have a serious mental problem.  I know a lot of Koreans in their 20's (former students) and none of them scream and jump up and down about BTS.  They did that shit when they were elementary and middle school age.  They outgrew that by mid 20's if not sooner for sure.  If some 28 year old foreign chick is hanging out at a BTS concert with Middle School girls, that is lame as shit. "

In other words, you're losing the argument so you decided to just hurl insults ( A sign of both losing an argument and cognitive dissonance). Then you wrote this- "I've also dated Korean women late 20's and early 30's (and attracted attention from some working at Starbucks or where ever early to mid 20's too).  None of them friek out over BTS.  If anything, they think they look too girly.  Trust me, the majority of folks are not into this stuff.  They travel for a gap year or they believe the outdated lines recruiters tell from 10 or 15 years ago that they can make a lot of money to pay off their loans.". What that has to do with how NETs coming here for the culture and driving down wages, I have no idea.

Then, you accused people of going off-topic. This after ranting about lower wages, and then instead of accepting why wages were being driven lower, you ranted about BTS and how someone who is into them has mental problems. You followed this up by introducing an irrelevancy.

Next, I pointed out a host of flaws in your reasoning and conclusions.

And AGAIN, your response, rather than admitting flaws in your reasoning, was to do the "You're off topic" thing. When it was you who doubled-down and then went off-topic in the first place....

This started with you complaining about the salaries and people willing to accept 2.1.

I started this post about transferring money via local bank out of China.  Better go back and re read the original post.  This is just getting weird.  I understand why folks quit this site and migrate over to the Facebook groups. 

people ran out of useful things to say in like the first 3 posts just let the thread run its course

Totally agree here. Useless, verbose garbage with little meaning or fact.

I started this post about transferring money via local bank out of China.  Better go back and re read the original post.  This is just getting weird.  I understand why folks quit this site and migrate over to the Facebook groups. 

Nothing about being entitled.  I refuse to defend wage dicks who keep wages low just because they can.  The other professions have gotten raises and cost of living increases.  Even the cleaning ajummas who cleans my friend's apartment building.  He told me she got 2.3 million.  Unionized bus drivers who made 2 million won and factory workers who made 1.5 million a month while hakwon workers made 2.1 to 2.3 million a month now make much more.  ESL jobs still paying 2.1 to 2.3 while unionized bus drivers make over 3 plus million won now and the factory jobs are paying 2.7 to 3.0 million (for the migrant workers).

Had friends take Masters to get uni job that paid the same and even less than years ago when they hired folks with experienced and Bachelors.  Not exactly stellar case here.  Will the schools pay more, not at all?  A few will, but many will not.  Waste of time.  It's about respect and not entitled.  But folks who want to be arrogant and feel stuck up and superior to anyone else is free to do as they wish.  Either Korea pays and steps up or starts losing their teachers.  Slow exodus beginning.  Folks are voting with their feet.  Slow trickle.  But will become gushing river.

Anyways, keep doing this rather than admit your take that almost no one is coming here for culture is a trash take.

Again-

This should have been the end of the argument with you going "Well, I guess things have changed. People are coming here just for culture and it IS driving down wages."

Hangeul, the Korean alphabet, will be seen in McDonald’s in its outlets across the world starting this month.

McDonald’s, the fast food restaurant chain, is teaming up with BTS to release a new celebrity meal on May 26.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210514000553

The crew T-shirts, which will be worn by McDonald’s employees worldwide, include a logo of both BTS and McDonald’s as well as Hangeul consonants of each party.

I started this post about transferring money via local bank out of China.  Better go back and re read the original post.  This is just getting weird.  I understand why folks quit this site and migrate over to the Facebook groups. 

Are you thinking of making that move in a couple of years?  Just winding up loose ends here first?  What's it like posting in Facebook groups?  This is the only Korean posting site I've ever wasted time on. 

Are you thinking of making that move in a couple of years?  Just winding up loose ends here first?  What's it like posting in Facebook groups?  This is the only Korean posting site I've ever wasted time on. 

I don't know.  Like posting anywhere's I guess.  More people, I suppose.  First Dave's lost lots of users.  They migrated over here.  Now, they have migrated to Fbook groups, I guess.      Not sure, I only post here during desk warming time.  I am rarely on here or there on weekends.  Seems lots of folks do post all weekend long. 

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