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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #120 on: April 26, 2021, 04:56:56 pm »
The contract teachers who have been contract teachers for years should study harder to past the test.


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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #121 on: April 26, 2021, 05:11:01 pm »
The contract teachers who have been contract teachers for years should study harder to past the test.
It's not a simple pass/fail scenario. Every year there will be a certain number of slots to basically replace retiring teachers. So in any given year they might hire say 100 English teachers, but some 2,000 potential English teachers will take the test. They'll hire the top 100 teachers with the top 100 scores.

Not sure of the actual numbers, but for Seoul I've heard numbers in excess of 15,000 test takers across all subjects. And typically they may hire about 1000 teachers total.


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #122 on: April 26, 2021, 08:16:58 pm »
That's great news to hear that the other Korean co-teach have stood up for you! It's really important in this country to have some local have you back! Since it was not one but two Korean co-teachers who made a complaint against another Korean teacher, the principal and vice principal had to take it more seriously. Also, it probably helped that they look up her bad history from the other school that proves she is a problematic person to begin with!


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #123 on: April 26, 2021, 11:07:40 pm »
"Not much action"? 

Um, the whole thing has been resolved and in your favor.

... unless you do something stupid like demand an apology.

My advice: just smile and carry on, or as they used to say around here: SNIP  (smile, nod, ignore, proceed).

Excuse me....it was non-action for me as NO ONE LET ME KNOW what was going on.... I waited and asked what was going on.  I didn't even know those teachers were on my side until the said they went to the principal's office.  I still don't know what was said, ..and my voice was/is  STILL unheard and that makes me uneasy! I don't need your snark, Mr. C.  SNIP doesn't really apply in this situation, but thanks~


  • Mr C
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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #124 on: April 27, 2021, 06:18:43 am »
Excuse me....it was non-action for me as NO ONE LET ME KNOW what was going on.... I waited and asked what was going on.  I didn't even know those teachers were on my side until the said they went to the principal's office.  I still don't know what was said, ..and my voice was/is  STILL unheard and that makes me uneasy! I don't need your snark, Mr. C.  SNIP doesn't really apply in this situation, but thanks~

<sigh>


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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #125 on: May 14, 2021, 01:52:41 pm »
Like D.L. Orean, I can also read between the lines.  Obviously, it wasn't just the school that got anal that year.  Oh, those youthful romances.  What happened?  Did he move to China for better pay?  Chalk it up to two ships passing in the night, I guess. 

And if I reply to this, I will be the one to get warned watched etc.....  Guess I'll have to meet the chicks I still know to convince me of my straightness. 


  • hangook77
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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #126 on: May 14, 2021, 01:56:40 pm »
Sorry everyone :cry:

I didn't "dip"....  Last week I waited to talk with the principal and/or supervisors....stil l nothing.

Ok so what transpired was (as far as I have gathered from the one co-teacher who told me) this:

Korean coteachers had a meeting about my lessons...apparentl y she complained about me a lot to them.  After the meeting the 2 coteachers then went to the principal and complained about her.

She then had a meeting with the principal and threatened to quit because she felt all the English teachers had scapegoated her.  The school has tried to appease her????  (I don't know).  All I know is that she is in a fight now with the other English teachers and she has stopped texting and messaging me at night and keeps messages short, and to a professional minimum (hallelujah). 

She has also complimented me on my classes through the cool messenger (for proof she is being nice to me...I imagine). 

I spend most of my time in the English room and try to have as little to do with her as possible.  She has lightened up quite a bit (its for show) yet has not apologized at all for yelling at me during class or any other of her shitty behaviour.  The other coteachers want her to have some sort of reprimand/punishment, but I'm sure she is putting up a fuss and threatening to quit/we are bullying and scapegoating HER!!!  She totally flipped the script~

Ahhh I also found out (a coteacher found out)  that in one of her second previous job she quit because she said she was "scapegoated" by the other English teachers.

So...last week I asked if I should talk to the principal and my other coteachers said they already did.  I'm really confused as to where I should go from here.  (I thought there would be tantrums in the principal's office, but so far..crickets).  I'm unsure of whether or not I should take it farther (ie demand an apology, or let it slide)...

I wanted to update last week but there was really not much action...

Thanks again everyone!  Your advice and support means so much.

In this case, they didn't confront you or put you on the spot or try to put a written warning on you?  Good, then you handled it right.  No need to go nuclear in this case.  Only if they come for you with warnings and threatening your job and ganging up on you.  So, that's good to hear.  That crazy teacher should leave soon anyways. 


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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #127 on: May 14, 2021, 02:16:16 pm »
And if I reply to this, I will be the one to get warned watched etc.....  Guess I'll have to meet the chicks I still know to convince me of my straightness.

They'll never be able to replace the man by the river. That hole will always remain empty. Be happy you got to experience something special and cherish those memories.


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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #128 on: May 16, 2021, 07:33:43 pm »
And if I reply to this, I will be the one to get warned watched etc.....  Guess I'll have to meet the chicks I still know to convince me of my straightness. 

Do you have a girlfriend or a wife? When was the last time you *nudge nudge wink wink*?
oo oo ahh ahh


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #129 on: July 20, 2021, 10:31:40 pm »
So the shit show has continued  (actually it never stopped)

On Friday the education office officials are coming to do "consulting".  Wanna know what it is?  It's when your school can't figure its shit out and must call in the office of education to do its mediating!

As I think that I have mentioned some of my problems with this teacher and my threat to the school that I would quit....WELLLL

She decided she would do the same thing!  And added that she thinks that she has been bullied by us 3 English teachers!  So basically my threat of quitting due to her was nixed by her mentioning bullying * IF you knew me and my English co-workers you would see the least likely people to bully anyone in the world.
Result: Upper Management did nothing, upper management didn't do shit do find out what was going on.....to this day they have only listened to my other English co teachers (granted, they are speaking what I think could be ok on my behalf, but why hasn't the P or VP asked me to come to their office and tell them my experience?)

The straw that broke the camel's back (to make the "consulting" occur was because of this:

Every Thursday I submit my Lesson Plan and materials to each English teacher.  These plans and materials are to be reviewed and okayed by them.  After exams were over for the grades two and three usually there are special lessons or classes that make my lessons with them canceled.  The grade 2 teacher told me that most of my classes with her had been canceled, same with grade one.  They updated me that I could do whatever I wanted with those classes.  However, I didn't hear anything from the crazy teacher about anything sooo i messaged her on Tuesday twice.  I asked her if there was anything special going on?  She never got back to me at all so I didn't make a Lesson Plan or any special materials for Thursday *the lesson plan due date.

SOOOOO fast forward to Monday.  I messaged her at 9 am and asked if I still had classes with her that day since she didn't message me back the week before.  *We had class that day at 10:10 second period.   I asked her do we still have class?
She totally went crazy!
She finally replied at 10:04 (our class was at 10:10) and said "STOP IT~ You never texted me anything~ Why didn't you prepare anything for grade 3?"  I told her I sent her messages the prior week as to what was going on and she didn't reply and that she should not worry because I have a ton of activities etc I can try and piece together with a few minutes notice (as every NET has on their USB for emergencies) and not to worry. 

So we did 2 classes and she was not SATISFIED....we did 2 classes back to back on zoom (periods three and four) and she sat there on camera with the meanest and most sour face I have ever seen.  She didn't try to help, she just made all of us feel uncomfortable.  I was really curious as to why she was so angry as I had asked her what was going on....etc...I thought perhaps there could be some misunderstanding.

SO I went to the teacher's office where she was after class to try and find out what was going on.....When I got in the room I said hey, did we get our wires crossed...perhaps there was a miscommunication last week?

Suddenly she yelled at me in front of the two head teachers in the office!! "You didn't prepare anything for our class",  "Do you think that is ok for you not to prepare anything at all?"  "The students don't deserve this"....
I was SO CONFUSED!!!!  She was yelling at me in front of the other head teachers in our office to let them know that I am not doing my job and that I am a bad teacher!!~  I told her she was illogical and her attitude was bad and she told me to leave.  *At the beginning of the year my desk was next to hers but I went to the English room.

Fastforward that day...I told the other English teachers what happened....they were also going through a lot of craziness with her.

Suddenly I get a call from the head teacher.  All the English teachers, head teachers and vp and p must meet in the P's office!!

I'm like WHAT?

I went there and she had twisted everything around and was sittting quiet and contrite and I asked her why she did this!?  Her reply:  She is not my secretary!  The other English teachers also mentioned some other things about her secretly taping them and me when we are unaware.... The meeting was adjourned with her threatening me ......I will get consulting ..you will see, you will see!!!!

So my co-teachers told me on Friday we have a consulting meeting.....I'm still unaware of what is going on....I think the the GEPIK coordinator should be there!!  Why hasn't anyone even asked me what the hell is going on from my end!???  I am so disheartened. 

I am trying to make a list of things she has done...there are so many,  in English and try and give it to someone before the meeting so at least my voice can be heard....

IF anyone can make any sense of what I have written, thanks.....to others I am sorry....TLDRRRRRRR R

I am so stressed out...this woman is a true nut case....and sorry to say that I'm glad she was crazy to my other coteachers, cause if she wasn't my voice would not have been heard at all.....




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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #130 on: July 21, 2021, 07:40:24 am »
This sounds wayyyy to similar to a former co-teacher of mine hahah. Sorry you're still going through this, but if the other English teachers feel the same way as you, have similar stories to tell about that teacher, and especially now that she has yelled at you in front of others, you don't have too much to worry about.

Purely out of curiosities sake, are you in Gyeongbuk? I mean it when I say your CT sounds a lot like my former one...


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #131 on: July 21, 2021, 07:49:01 am »
Sorry to hear about this.  I don't have any advice except to try and stay calm during the meeting.  You sound to be doing the right thing with having written down the incidents. 

I would suggest trying to make them with bullet points rather than long paragraphs (easier to read and also can look longer). 

Have copies of the messages you sent last week. 

Have several copies of the documents to hand to each person at the 'consulting meeting'.  Could be difficult if you don't know how many are coming.  Maybe you could email your Office of Education to ask if they know how many will be there as you haven't had any information from your school?  (Not sure about doing this though - what do others think?)

Maybe put your points through Google translate/papago etc in case the principal etc don't understand English.

Other supporting documents could include your messages on this site - showing the dates and your concern with the issue????

Be strong.  Be professional.  Be calm.  Good luck.




  • hangook77
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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #132 on: July 21, 2021, 07:59:08 am »
Do you have a girlfriend or a wife? When was the last time you *nudge nudge wink wink*?

You're weird.


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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #133 on: July 21, 2021, 08:04:11 am »
So the shit show has continued  (actually it never stopped)

On Friday the education office officials are coming to do "consulting".  Wanna know what it is?  It's when your school can't figure its shit out and must call in the office of education to do its mediating!

As I think that I have mentioned some of my problems with this teacher and my threat to the school that I would quit....WELLLL

She decided she would do the same thing!  And added that she thinks that she has been bullied by us 3 English teachers!  So basically my threat of quitting due to her was nixed by her mentioning bullying * IF you knew me and my English co-workers you would see the least likely people to bully anyone in the world.
Result: Upper Management did nothing, upper management didn't do shit do find out what was going on.....to this day they have only listened to my other English co teachers (granted, they are speaking what I think could be ok on my behalf, but why hasn't the P or VP asked me to come to their office and tell them my experience?)

The straw that broke the camel's back (to make the "consulting" occur was because of this:

Every Thursday I submit my Lesson Plan and materials to each English teacher.  These plans and materials are to be reviewed and okayed by them.  After exams were over for the grades two and three usually there are special lessons or classes that make my lessons with them canceled.  The grade 2 teacher told me that most of my classes with her had been canceled, same with grade one.  They updated me that I could do whatever I wanted with those classes.  However, I didn't hear anything from the crazy teacher about anything sooo i messaged her on Tuesday twice.  I asked her if there was anything special going on?  She never got back to me at all so I didn't make a Lesson Plan or any special materials for Thursday *the lesson plan due date.

SOOOOO fast forward to Monday.  I messaged her at 9 am and asked if I still had classes with her that day since she didn't message me back the week before.  *We had class that day at 10:10 second period.   I asked her do we still have class?
She totally went crazy!
She finally replied at 10:04 (our class was at 10:10) and said "STOP IT~ You never texted me anything~ Why didn't you prepare anything for grade 3?"  I told her I sent her messages the prior week as to what was going on and she didn't reply and that she should not worry because I have a ton of activities etc I can try and piece together with a few minutes notice (as every NET has on their USB for emergencies) and not to worry. 

So we did 2 classes and she was not SATISFIED....we did 2 classes back to back on zoom (periods three and four) and she sat there on camera with the meanest and most sour face I have ever seen.  She didn't try to help, she just made all of us feel uncomfortable.  I was really curious as to why she was so angry as I had asked her what was going on....etc...I thought perhaps there could be some misunderstanding.

SO I went to the teacher's office where she was after class to try and find out what was going on.....When I got in the room I said hey, did we get our wires crossed...perhaps there was a miscommunication last week?

Suddenly she yelled at me in front of the two head teachers in the office!! "You didn't prepare anything for our class",  "Do you think that is ok for you not to prepare anything at all?"  "The students don't deserve this"....
I was SO CONFUSED!!!!  She was yelling at me in front of the other head teachers in our office to let them know that I am not doing my job and that I am a bad teacher!!~  I told her she was illogical and her attitude was bad and she told me to leave.  *At the beginning of the year my desk was next to hers but I went to the English room.

Fastforward that day...I told the other English teachers what happened....they were also going through a lot of craziness with her.

Suddenly I get a call from the head teacher.  All the English teachers, head teachers and vp and p must meet in the P's office!!

I'm like WHAT?

I went there and she had twisted everything around and was sittting quiet and contrite and I asked her why she did this!?  Her reply:  She is not my secretary!  The other English teachers also mentioned some other things about her secretly taping them and me when we are unaware.... The meeting was adjourned with her threatening me ......I will get consulting ..you will see, you will see!!!!

So my co-teachers told me on Friday we have a consulting meeting.....I'm still unaware of what is going on....I think the the GEPIK coordinator should be there!!  Why hasn't anyone even asked me what the hell is going on from my end!???  I am so disheartened. 

I am trying to make a list of things she has done...there are so many,  in English and try and give it to someone before the meeting so at least my voice can be heard....

IF anyone can make any sense of what I have written, thanks.....to others I am sorry....TLDRRRRRRR R

I am so stressed out...this woman is a true nut case....and sorry to say that I'm glad she was crazy to my other coteachers, cause if she wasn't my voice would not have been heard at all.....




Well, unlike before at least we know the other teachers aren't ganging up on you.  This one teacher with the emotional problems is doing everything that she is now accusing you and the others of.  Just write down every example in bullet point form to remind yourself and state quite blankly that you ARE in fact the one feeling bullied and that YOU do not deserve her verbal abuse.  Let her say her piece.  Then say yours.  If she interrupts cut her off and don't take it for a second when you are speaking.  She is using Saul Alinsky's tactics.  Accuse others of the very thing you yourself are doing.  The most recent example of not replying to your text and going nuts on you 5 minutes before class is what ought to be mentioned. 


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #134 on: July 21, 2021, 08:22:44 am »
Quote
IF anyone can make any sense of what I have written

your coteacher realizes she is under scrutiny and that the rest of the staff are not on her side. she is sabotaging your classes and then complaining publicly in order to muddy the waters and make it look like she is the one being treated unfairly.

she is trying to make the situation opaque enough that when the inevitable "consultation" occurs everything will be so confusing to anyone outside (or even inside) the school that they won't be able to reach a clear decision about what to do.

cue some 협상 bs where nothing gets solved and everything returns to "normal"


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #135 on: July 21, 2021, 01:41:56 pm »
She is using Saul Alinsky's tactics.
I...what...dude...seriously?


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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #136 on: July 21, 2021, 02:21:43 pm »
I...what...dude...seriously?

Yeah, I wasn't gonna get into it, but that is definitely not Alinsky's tactics. 


  • hangook77
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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #137 on: July 21, 2021, 03:09:39 pm »
I...what...dude...seriously?

You know, accuse the other person or side of what it is you are actually doing.  It's all about misdirection and diversion.  Is this not what the crazy teacher is doing?  She is being a bully, but she accuses the others of this for the art of misdirection and covering up their own actions. 


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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #138 on: Yesterday at 11:23:11 am »
You know, accuse the other person or side of what it is you are actually doing.  It's all about misdirection and diversion.  Is this not what the crazy teacher is doing?  She is being a bully, but she accuses the others of this for the art of misdirection and covering up their own actions. 
Please confine your political/social comments to the the political threads.