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  • pkjh
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    • May 02, 2012, 02:59:44 pm
    • Asia
Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #100 on: April 23, 2021, 12:33:35 pm »
NETS= Native English Teacher
Japanese and Chinese would be NJT and NCT or just NFLT- Native Foreign Language Teachers
Some FLHS (Foreign Language High Schools) do have multiple Native English Teachers.


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2021, 10:27:25 am »
Ok looks like we may need to band together and get a search party organized for dipped...


Waygook user dipped MIA


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2021, 10:33:43 am »
she dipped


  • OnNut81
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    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2021, 11:08:09 am »
Ok looks like we may need to band together and get a search party organized for dipped...


Waygook user dipped MIA

She's been spotted in the lesson forums.  For some reason she created a thread to get advice and then abandoned it without any follow up.  I, for one, will be much less likely to bother making an effort in the future.  People responded and made an effort to offer helpful advice (mostly, Hangook went off the rails) and were invested in her situation and she just left us hanging. 


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2021, 11:21:21 am »
Sorry everyone :cry:

I didn't "dip"....  Last week I waited to talk with the principal and/or supervisors....stil l nothing.

Ok so what transpired was (as far as I have gathered from the one co-teacher who told me) this:

Korean coteachers had a meeting about my lessons...apparentl y she complained about me a lot to them.  After the meeting the 2 coteachers then went to the principal and complained about her.

She then had a meeting with the principal and threatened to quit because she felt all the English teachers had scapegoated her.  The school has tried to appease her????  (I don't know).  All I know is that she is in a fight now with the other English teachers and she has stopped texting and messaging me at night and keeps messages short, and to a professional minimum (hallelujah). 

She has also complimented me on my classes through the cool messenger (for proof she is being nice to me...I imagine). 

I spend most of my time in the English room and try to have as little to do with her as possible.  She has lightened up quite a bit (its for show) yet has not apologized at all for yelling at me during class or any other of her shitty behaviour.  The other coteachers want her to have some sort of reprimand/punishment, but I'm sure she is putting up a fuss and threatening to quit/we are bullying and scapegoating HER!!!  She totally flipped the script~

Ahhh I also found out (a coteacher found out)  that in one of her second previous job she quit because she said she was "scapegoated" by the other English teachers.

So...last week I asked if I should talk to the principal and my other coteachers said they already did.  I'm really confused as to where I should go from here.  (I thought there would be tantrums in the principal's office, but so far..crickets).  I'm unsure of whether or not I should take it farther (ie demand an apology, or let it slide)...

I wanted to update last week but there was really not much action...

Thanks again everyone!  Your advice and support means so much.


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #105 on: April 26, 2021, 11:23:43 am »
She's been spotted in the lesson forums.  For some reason she created a thread to get advice and then abandoned it without any follow up.  I, for one, will be much less likely to bother making an effort in the future.  People responded and made an effort to offer helpful advice (mostly, Hangook went off the rails) and were invested in her situation and she just left us hanging. 

Not true at all... I wanted to wait and figure out what the hell was going on...(I still don't know).  I wasn't trying to ghost you, silly.... ;)


  • OnNut81
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    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #106 on: April 26, 2021, 11:29:10 am »
Sorry everyone :cry:

I didn't "dip"....  Last week I waited to talk with the principal and/or supervisors....stil l nothing.

Ok so what transpired was (as far as I have gathered from the one co-teacher who told me) this:

Korean coteachers had a meeting about my lessons...apparentl y she complained about me a lot to them.  After the meeting the 2 coteachers then went to the principal and complained about her.

She then had a meeting with the principal and threatened to quit because she felt all the English teachers had scapegoated her.  The school has tried to appease her????  (I don't know).  All I know is that she is in a fight now with the other English teachers and she has stopped texting and messaging me at night and keeps messages short, and to a professional minimum (hallelujah). 

She has also complimented me on my classes through the cool messenger (for proof she is being nice to me...I imagine). 

I spend most of my time in the English room and try to have as little to do with her as possible.  She has lightened up quite a bit (its for show) yet has not apologized at all for yelling at me during class or any other of her shitty behaviour.  The other coteachers want her to have some sort of reprimand/punishment, but I'm sure she is putting up a fuss and threatening to quit/we are bullying and scapegoating HER!!!  She totally flipped the script~

Ahhh I also found out (a coteacher found out)  that in one of her second previous job she quit because she said she was "scapegoated" by the other English teachers.

So...last week I asked if I should talk to the principal and my other coteachers said they already did.  I'm really confused as to where I should go from here.  (I thought there would be tantrums in the principal's office, but so far..crickets).  I'm unsure of whether or not I should take it farther (ie demand an apology, or let it slide)...

I wanted to update last week but there was really not much action...

Thanks again everyone!  Your advice and support means so much.

Well, that was pretty satisfying as far as I'm concerned.  Sounds like she's on the ropes a bit.  I'd just let it slide.  Sounds like the damage has been done to her reputation and they backed you.  Pushing for an apology at this point might seem a bit greedy since they already had your back. 


  • Mr C
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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #107 on: April 26, 2021, 11:33:14 am »
Sorry everyone :cry:

I didn't "dip"....  Last week I waited to talk with the principal and/or supervisors....stil l nothing.

Ok so what transpired was (as far as I have gathered from the one co-teacher who told me) this:

Korean coteachers had a meeting about my lessons...apparentl y she complained about me a lot to them.  After the meeting the 2 coteachers then went to the principal and complained about her.

She then had a meeting with the principal and threatened to quit because she felt all the English teachers had scapegoated her.  The school has tried to appease her????  (I don't know).  All I know is that she is in a fight now with the other English teachers and she has stopped texting and messaging me at night and keeps messages short, and to a professional minimum (hallelujah). 

She has also complimented me on my classes through the cool messenger (for proof she is being nice to me...I imagine). 

I spend most of my time in the English room and try to have as little to do with her as possible.  She has lightened up quite a bit (its for show) yet has not apologized at all for yelling at me during class or any other of her shitty behaviour.  The other coteachers want her to have some sort of reprimand/punishment, but I'm sure she is putting up a fuss and threatening to quit/we are bullying and scapegoating HER!!!  She totally flipped the script~

Ahhh I also found out (a coteacher found out)  that in one of her second previous job she quit because she said she was "scapegoated" by the other English teachers.

So...last week I asked if I should talk to the principal and my other coteachers said they already did.  I'm really confused as to where I should go from here.  (I thought there would be tantrums in the principal's office, but so far..crickets).  I'm unsure of whether or not I should take it farther (ie demand an apology, or let it slide)...

I wanted to update last week but there was really not much action...

Thanks again everyone!  Your advice and support means so much.

"Not much action"? 

Um, the whole thing has been resolved and in your favor.

... unless you do something stupid like demand an apology.

My advice: just smile and carry on, or as they used to say around here: SNIP  (smile, nod, ignore, proceed).


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #108 on: April 26, 2021, 11:34:39 am »
Sorry everyone :cry:

I didn't "dip"....  Last week I waited to talk with the principal and/or supervisors....stil l nothing.

Ok so what transpired was (as far as I have gathered from the one co-teacher who told me) this:

Korean coteachers had a meeting about my lessons...apparentl y she complained about me a lot to them.  After the meeting the 2 coteachers then went to the principal and complained about her.

She then had a meeting with the principal and threatened to quit because she felt all the English teachers had scapegoated her.  The school has tried to appease her????  (I don't know).  All I know is that she is in a fight now with the other English teachers and she has stopped texting and messaging me at night and keeps messages short, and to a professional minimum (hallelujah). 

She has also complimented me on my classes through the cool messenger (for proof she is being nice to me...I imagine). 

I spend most of my time in the English room and try to have as little to do with her as possible.  She has lightened up quite a bit (its for show) yet has not apologized at all for yelling at me during class or any other of her shitty behaviour.  The other coteachers want her to have some sort of reprimand/punishment, but I'm sure she is putting up a fuss and threatening to quit/we are bullying and scapegoating HER!!!  She totally flipped the script~

Ahhh I also found out (a coteacher found out)  that in one of her second previous job she quit because she said she was "scapegoated" by the other English teachers.

So...last week I asked if I should talk to the principal and my other coteachers said they already did.  I'm really confused as to where I should go from here.  (I thought there would be tantrums in the principal's office, but so far..crickets).  I'm unsure of whether or not I should take it farther (ie demand an apology, or let it slide)...

I wanted to update last week but there was really not much action...

Thanks again everyone!  Your advice and support means so much.

Oh that's a relief. Glad to hear the other teachers put their foot (feet?) down. It sounds like they have faith in you. I wouldn't hold your breath for an apology but you definitely got the win.

Take care.


  • pkjh
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    • May 02, 2012, 02:59:44 pm
    • Asia
Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #109 on: April 26, 2021, 11:41:10 am »
The school is unlikely to fire her, because it is a hassle firing someone. And she also is assigned a homeroom. In most cases they just won't renew her. Contract teachers can be renewed up to a max of 3-ish years (not sure of the number) at the same school, and have to be hired full-time if they continue the contract. However, many of those private-public schools, if they like them, will rehire them like 6 months later and do the 3 years again. So, unless she quits, she's there until the end of the school year.

The fake niceness is probably the best situation you can get in this case. She'll probably avoid conflict so the school doesn't blacklist her. Just avoid her as much as possible, and be cordial. You've won this.


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #110 on: April 26, 2021, 11:43:31 am »
The school is unlikely to fire her, because it is a hassle firing someone. And she also is assigned a homeroom. In most cases they just won't renew her. Contract teachers can be renewed up to a max of 3-ish years (not sure of the number) at the same school, and have to be hired full-time if they continue the contract. However, many of those private-public schools, if they like them, will rehire them like 6 months later and do the 3 years again. So, unless she quits, she's there until the end of the school year.

The fake niceness is probably the best situation you can get in this case. She'll probably avoid conflict so the school doesn't blacklist her. Just avoid her as much as possible, and be cordial. You've won this.

The contract workers' rules have changed. They **can***  work at a school for up to 8 years, either year/two-year or four-year contracts these days. My co-t just started her 5th year.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2021, 11:49:56 am by thunderlips »


  • pkjh
  • The Legend

    • 2312

    • May 02, 2012, 02:59:44 pm
    • Asia
Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #111 on: April 26, 2021, 11:46:43 am »
The contract workers' rules have changed. They work at a school for up to 8 years, either year/two-year or four-year contracts these days. My co-t just started her 5th year.
Interesting, I'd figure the Moon government would've made it shorter so more people would be full-time. But, now they can just string them along longer.


  • nightninja
  • Expert Waygook

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    • April 02, 2018, 03:20:32 pm
    • Korea
Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #112 on: April 26, 2021, 03:38:15 pm »
The contract workers' rules have changed. They **can***  work at a school for up to 8 years, either year/two-year or four-year contracts these days. My co-t just started her 5th year.

Many contract teachers in my area have been with the same school for 10 years....I know of at least 3 personally.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7974

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #113 on: April 26, 2021, 03:41:43 pm »
Whatís the difference between a contract teacher and unionized teacher? The contract teacher hasnít passed the test(s)?


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #114 on: April 26, 2021, 03:59:29 pm »
What about my advice.  I said if she is summoned into a meeting of teachers and is given a written warning and a long list of job criticisms.  At this point they have turned against you and stuck together and there is nothing to lose.  They went mental on you so go nuclear on them.  At this point you have nothing to lose.  Sucking up and being even nicer after this will not earn you more respect and get you a contract renewal.  But be a cuck or whatever you want. 
This aged well.


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #115 on: April 26, 2021, 04:45:55 pm »
Whatís the difference between a contract teacher and unionized teacher? The contract teacher hasnít passed the test(s)?

Yes


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  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #116 on: April 26, 2021, 04:56:56 pm »
The contract teachers who have been contract teachers for years should study harder to past the test.


  • pkjh
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Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #117 on: April 26, 2021, 05:11:01 pm »
The contract teachers who have been contract teachers for years should study harder to past the test.
It's not a simple pass/fail scenario. Every year there will be a certain number of slots to basically replace retiring teachers. So in any given year they might hire say 100 English teachers, but some 2,000 potential English teachers will take the test. They'll hire the top 100 teachers with the top 100 scores.

Not sure of the actual numbers, but for Seoul I've heard numbers in excess of 15,000 test takers across all subjects. And typically they may hire about 1000 teachers total.


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #118 on: April 26, 2021, 08:16:58 pm »
That's great news to hear that the other Korean co-teach have stood up for you! It's really important in this country to have some local have you back! Since it was not one but two Korean co-teachers who made a complaint against another Korean teacher, the principal and vice principal had to take it more seriously. Also, it probably helped that they look up her bad history from the other school that proves she is a problematic person to begin with!


Re: Resigning from Gepik
« Reply #119 on: April 26, 2021, 11:07:40 pm »
"Not much action"? 

Um, the whole thing has been resolved and in your favor.

... unless you do something stupid like demand an apology.

My advice: just smile and carry on, or as they used to say around here: SNIP  (smile, nod, ignore, proceed).

Excuse me....it was non-action for me as NO ONE LET ME KNOW what was going on.... I waited and asked what was going on.  I didn't even know those teachers were on my side until the said they went to the principal's office.  I still don't know what was said, ..and my voice was/is  STILL unheard and that makes me uneasy! I don't need your snark, Mr. C.  SNIP doesn't really apply in this situation, but thanks~