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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2021, 09:51:56 am »
This is reminiscent of your posts regarding trump's tweets and how they weren't meant to be taken literally/seriously/the excuse du  jour. See Jan. 6 for how that excuse played.
Are you still going with the "insurrection" crap that keeps getting more and more debunked? Let me guess you believe 6 people were killed by other people there?

WRONG
https://news.yahoo.com/news/cause-death-released-4-5-191717271.html#click=https://t.co/OtW7ry0MRI

Besides, Reagan is in the past. We can tell he wasn't being literal because it was in the past.

Duh.

I bet this point sounded smart in your head, but anyone with a brain can figure out how bad it is.


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2021, 10:04:57 am »
Mental illness or poor excuse making:
"A Caucasian man in Fullerton, CA has been charged with a hate crime after throwing rocks at an Asian woman and her 6-year-old son last month.

The incident, which resulted in damages to the woman's car, occurred while she was driving her son along a quiet stretch on March 31, according to the Washington Post.

Roger Janke, 28, is accused of throwing rocks at the woman's vehicle. The 38-year-old victim parked and called 911, according to the Associated Press.

Upon his arrest, Janke claimed that "Koreans in the area were trying to control him," according to the Orange County District Attorney’s Office. He is currently held at Theo Lacy Facility on a $51,500 bail."
Are you going to do that thing where a person constantly posts a trickle of selectively chosen news stories to push their narrative?

If you're going to use your wife's fear, at least have the decency to post stories involving suspects of all races attacking Asian-Americans, otherwise you're just using her as a prop to score political points on waygook.org, which is absolutely pathetic.

Because if she has some Asian circle of friends she chit chats too, I guarantee, they aren't only worried about white people/MAGA attacking them.


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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2021, 01:47:44 am »
and Asian Americans across the US are looking over their shoulders as they go about their daily pursuits.

The scar that racism has left on America has been ripped off by the violence being perpetrated against minorities. Blood on the MAGA streets.
Cool. You got enough left wing content in your post to make it safe from being deleted by mods like VI.


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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2021, 02:37:25 am »
Are you still going with the "insurrection" crap that keeps getting more and more debunked? Let me guess you believe 6 people were killed by other people there?

WRONG
https://news.yahoo.com/news/cause-death-released-4-5-191717271.html#click=https://t.co/OtW7ry0MRI

Besides, Reagan is in the past. We can tell he wasn't being literal because it was in the past.

Duh.

I bet this point sounded smart in your head, but anyone with a brain can figure out how bad it is.
It's only getting debunked by the likes of you and Fox news.

"When Barsamian asked Chomsky to discuss the events of January 6, he replied, "First of all, it was explicitly an attempt at a coup."

Chomsky continued, "They were trying to overthrow the elected government: that's a coup."
 



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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2021, 02:38:21 am »
Cool. You got enough left wing content in your post to make it safe from being deleted by mods like VI.
Is this your way of saying your posts are getting deleted? You should be glad someone is actually reading them.


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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2021, 03:54:35 am »
Are you still going with the "insurrection" crap that keeps getting more and more debunked? Let me guess you believe 6 people were killed by other people there?

WRONG
https://news.yahoo.com/news/cause-death-released-4-5-191717271.html#click=https://t.co/OtW7ry0MRI


Yeah, Marti, that link in no way supports your assertion that the events of Jan 6th were not an insurrection. Generally the point of supporting evidence is bolster your claims not to garnish them.  :laugh:
If you were a student of Academic English, a lot of your work wouldn't get pass elementary level two.
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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2021, 12:46:37 pm »
It's only getting debunked by the likes of you and Fox news.

"When Barsamian asked Chomsky to discuss the events of January 6, he replied, "First of all, it was explicitly an attempt at a coup."

Chomsky continued, "They were trying to overthrow the elected government: that's a coup."
 


Clearly it was a coup when they ran around, took selfies and then left.  Just like all those other coups in history.


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2021, 12:48:11 pm »
Yeah, Marti, that link in no way supports your assertion that the events of Jan 6th were not an insurrection. Generally the point of supporting evidence is bolster your claims not to garnish them.  :laugh:
If you were a student of Academic English, a lot of your work wouldn't get pass elementary level two.
You win.

The link disproves the claim stupid people made- That six people were killed by the rioters.


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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2021, 01:59:07 pm »
You win.

The link disproves the claim stupid people made- That six people were killed by the rioters.

Oh, was that a claim made by Adel?  *checks*  No, it wasn't.  Why do you constantly argue against things that no one has said?


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2021, 03:11:32 pm »
Oh, was that a claim made by Adel?  *checks*  No, it wasn't.  Why do you constantly argue against things that no one has said?
https://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=120926.600


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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2021, 08:18:08 am »
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The link disproves the claim stupid people made- That six people were killed by the rioters.





Oh, was that a claim made by Adel?  *checks*  No, it wasn't.  Why do you constantly argue against things that no one has said?

Yes he does have a habit of doing that doesn't he? Another habit of his is doubling down by going off on another tangent when he's called out on it.

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https://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=120926.600

Are you saying nobody lost their lives at the Capitol building on Jan 6th Marti? Is this your latest blatant misrepresentation ?
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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2021, 10:19:01 am »
Because information can't change in 2 months.



Yes he does have a habit of doing that doesn't he? Another habit of his is doubling down by going off on another tangent when he's called out on it.

Are you saying nobody lost their lives at the Capitol building on Jan 6th Marti? Is this your latest blatant misrepresentation ?

Has there been any attempt by you to correct the record?

So far, only one person is confirmed to have died due to another person and that person was milled by a cop. Do you deny that?


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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #53 on: July 29, 2021, 06:39:41 am »
Some first hand testimony regarding the actions of those Jan 6th Trump supporting terrorist!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrVLi6FyJBo

These guys haven't forgotten.


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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2021, 07:43:13 am »
"There was a lot of love, I've heard that from everybody. Many, many people have told me, 'That was a loving crowd.' "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj3Dw0N1gn8


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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2021, 08:00:43 am »
"There was a lot of love, I've heard that from everybody. Many, many people have told me, 'That was a loving crowd.' "


That was from the dude that initiated the insurrection but was hiding from the actual event in the white house. It would help you to listening to factual testimony from people that witnessed the terrorism first hand.


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2021, 10:29:25 am »
Some first hand testimony regarding the actions of those Jan 6th Trump supporting terrorist!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrVLi6FyJBo

These guys haven't forgotten.
Calling it terrorism or a coup is the same as cops calling a butter knife a deadly weapon in order to justify lighting up some black person.


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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2021, 10:32:30 am »
Calling it terrorism or a coup is the same as cops calling a butter knife a deadly weapon in order to justify lighting up some black person.

I didn't think you'd resist the lure for another hypothetical false analogy!  :laugh:


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2021, 11:33:42 am »
I didn't think you'd resist the lure for another hypothetical false analogy!  :laugh:
The analogy isn't to call them the same, it's to illustrate the concept of deliberately overstating an incident/threat/danger in order to justify a harsh response.

Any other takes on how to handle civil-political disturbances Col. Dwyer?
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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2021, 11:48:37 am »
Calling it terrorism or a coup is the same as cops calling a butter knife a deadly weapon in order to justify lighting up some black person.

If somebody was wielding the butter knife with the intent of killing somebody, if *could* justifiably be called a deadly weapon.
In American legal terminology, a deadly weapon is any object capable of causing great bodily harm. Often, these objects' primary function is something different (for example, golf-clubs, nail-guns, automobiles, chain saws, shards of glass, a sharpened pencil etc) This definition includes butter-knives.

I think you may be conflating "deadly weapon" with "deadly weapon per se".
Deadly weapons per se are regarded as deadly weapons no matter how they are used (ie hand guns, switch-blades, katanas, shurikans, etc).


Interesting that you use butter-knives as the example, as there has been considerable consideration in the courts about how, when, and why they should be considered deadly weapons.

https://www.courthousenews.com/deadliness-of-butter-knives-debated-at-california-high-court/


TL;DR: Intent is a crucial determinant in both situations.
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