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  • gogators!
  • The Legend

    • 4524

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Violence has passed the potential stage
« on: April 08, 2021, 06:55:38 am »
and Asian Americans across the US are looking over their shoulders as they go about their daily pursuits.

The scar that racism has left on America has been ripped off by the violence being perpetrated against minorities. Blood on the MAGA streets.


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2021, 07:30:44 am »
Uh ok. Iíve seen lots of news stories about asian hate crimes and the perpetrators werenít white. But hey whatever gets the clicks.


  • CO2
  • Waygook Lord

    • 6721

    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
    • Uiwang
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2021, 07:42:22 am »
Uh ok. Iíve seen lots of news stories about asian hate crimes and the perpetrators werenít white. But hey whatever gets the clicks.

Post-Colonial Imperial Whiteness has infected communities of colour, tainted by a direct experience of slavery, and turned them into pawns due to a lack of reparations.

Or something.
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


  • 745sticky
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1226

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 07:53:02 am »
and Asian Americans across the US are looking over their shoulders as they go about their daily pursuits.

The scar that racism has left on America has been ripped off by the violence being perpetrated against minorities. Blood on the MAGA streets.

I thought Trump lost? Whenever you people talk about current events you act as if he's still in office, lol. Them's Biden's streets now.


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2021, 08:28:39 am »
As like, one of the few Asian-Americans (the only?) on here, thank you for you performative virtue signal on behalf of us in service of your own political agenda.


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2021, 06:22:47 pm »
This seems like a mental health issue to me. Seems like most of the attacks are in big cities like NYC, Oakland and SF.

And we all know that conservatives love funding mental health care and taking care of big cities. Yup.
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Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2021, 08:01:55 pm »
This seems like a mental health issue to me. Seems like most of the attacks are in big cities like NYC, Oakland and SF.

And we all know that conservatives love funding mental health care and taking care of big cities. Yup.
I will pre-emptively defend this from the inevitable dumb right-winger attack of "They're all in them Demmy-Crat cities!" by pointing out that most attacks are going to be where most people live and most people, particularly Asian-Americans live in cities or suburbs.


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2021, 08:07:46 pm »
I thought Trump lost? Whenever you people talk about current events you act as if he's still in office, lol. Them's Biden's streets now.
Pretty much a classic sign of cognitive dissonance. It doesn't matter the high-profile crime, somehow Trump is to blame for it.

Now of course what is the situation now is a mix of both Trump and Biden (and Obama and Bush and Clinton etc...) But if you operate on the stupid level of "Derp, whoever is in charge gets credit for everything (assuming they are my party) and whoever is out of power gets blame"(assuming they aren't my party) then you are going to think this way.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2021, 02:49:20 am by Mr.DeMartino »


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

    • 2496

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2021, 10:31:35 pm »
Pretty much a classic sign of cognitive dissonance. It doesn't matter the high-profile crime, somehow Trump is to blame for it.


Well, no. 

I and most people who understand US politics still blame Reagan for a lot of what happens in American politics.  The biggest example is supply side, trickle down Milton Friedman economics which has been totally disproven over the last forty effing years, yet somehow over half the body politic and quite a lot of regular folks still think that the thing to do is cut taxes for rich people.  It's proven nonsense, Reagan has been out of office for nearly 35 years, but it's the CW.  On this very forum we have people who think Trump "turned around" a failing economy instead of seeing the actual graphs showing his four years as merely extending the GDP growth curve from Obama.

If you realize that Trump is just the pinnacle--to date--of social animus against the "other" (meaning Trump didn't start it, but he was very good at stoking it) it's pretty obvious it will be a long time before disenfranchised people stop "punching down".  That includes Hispanics who "other" blacks, blacks and Hispanics who "other" Asians, and of course whites who "other" poorer whites.  And Hispanics, Asians and blacks.

That's not cognitive dissonance, failing to see it as a continuation of an earlier trend is.

More examples of cognitive dissonance (from the last few months):
-the Trump campaign using street violence during his own time in office as a scare tactic about what might happen under a Biden presidency.

-Trump saying the Capitol cops were hugging and kissing the insurgents. 

-Trump "cancelling Coke" with an actual Coke on his desk.

-Kayleigh McEnany accusing anyone else of lying.

-Turtle cum-sock Mitch McConnell telling big business to stay out of politics.


  • gogators!
  • The Legend

    • 4524

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2021, 01:22:26 am »
I thought Trump lost? Whenever you people talk about current events you act as if he's still in office, lol. Them's Biden's streets now.
Biden has done nothing to stoke anti-Asian attitudes. In fact, he's done quite the opposite.

You need to get over Bernie losing.


  • gogators!
  • The Legend

    • 4524

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2021, 01:23:50 am »
As like, one of the few Asian-Americans (the only?) on here, thank you for you performative virtue signal on behalf of us in service of your own political agenda.
Actually, it was my wife telling me she was scared to get gas by herself that prompted my post.

Anything performative is merely you projecting.


  • gogators!
  • The Legend

    • 4524

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2021, 01:27:29 am »
This seems like a mental health issue to me. Seems like most of the attacks are in big cities like NYC, Oakland and SF.

And we all know that conservatives love funding mental health care and taking care of big cities. Yup.

To a degree, all violence is a mental health issue. But you can be just s crazy in a small town as in a big city. Look at all the mass shootings where the sheriff or police chief is saying they couldn't imagine such a tragedy happening in their little peaceful town.


  • gogators!
  • The Legend

    • 4524

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2021, 01:35:28 am »
Well, no. 

I and most people who understand US politics still blame Reagan for a lot of what happens in American politics.  The biggest example is supply side, trickle down Milton Friedman economics which has been totally disproven over the last forty effing years, yet somehow over half the body politic and quite a lot of regular folks still think that the thing to do is cut taxes for rich people.  It's proven nonsense, Reagan has been out of office for nearly 35 years, but it's the CW.  On this very forum we have people who think Trump "turned around" a failing economy instead of seeing the actual graphs showing his four years as merely extending the GDP growth curve from Obama.

If you realize that Trump is just the pinnacle--to date--of social animus against the "other" (meaning Trump didn't start it, but he was very good at stoking it) it's pretty obvious it will be a long time before disenfranchised people stop "punching down".  That includes Hispanics who "other" blacks, blacks and Hispanics who "other" Asians, and of course whites who "other" poorer whites.  And Hispanics, Asians and blacks.

That's not cognitive dissonance, failing to see it as a continuation of an earlier trend is.

More examples of cognitive dissonance (from the last few months):
-the Trump campaign using street violence during his own time in office as a scare tactic about what might happen under a Biden presidency.

-Trump saying the Capitol cops were hugging and kissing the insurgents. 

-Trump "cancelling Coke" with an actual Coke on his desk.

-Kayleigh McEnany accusing anyone else of lying.

-Turtle cum-sock Mitch McConnell telling big business to stay out of politics.
Reagan was the front man for a multi-billion dollar campaign to move the US to the right. It's an agenda he made popular, especially the anti-government screed most right wingers now ascribe to. Heck, an acquaintance of mine was just babbling on about how the private sector was so much more efficient etc. than the government, never mind that Emergent just ruined 15 million vaccine doses out of negligence.


  • 745sticky
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1226

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2021, 07:39:57 am »
Biden has done nothing to stoke anti-Asian attitudes. In fact, he's done quite the opposite.

You need to get over Bernie losing.
I mean he's the big man in charge, so I don't see why I shouldn't get to place the blame on him. Even if he's doing "quite the opposite" he clearly isn't doing enough  >:(


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

    • 2496

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2021, 08:01:23 am »
Reagan was the front man for a multi-billion dollar campaign to move the US to the right. It's an agenda he made popular, especially the anti-government screed most right wingers now ascribe to. Heck, an acquaintance of mine was just babbling on about how the private sector was so much more efficient etc. than the government, never mind that Emergent just ruined 15 million vaccine doses out of negligence.
Good point.  Government, said Reagan, isn't the solution, government is the problem.

Why on earth do we elect people who don't believe in the fundamental mission of the job?  You wouldn't go to a doctor who thinks illness is just God's way of telling you to die.  You wouldn't hire an engineer who doesn't believe in the fundamentals of physics and thinks building are just gonna fall on people, what can we do?

So you end up with Republican leadership that for example starves FEMA of funding so when Hurricane Katrina hits they can say "See, I told you government doesn't work!" but still want trillions for failed or doubtful weapons projects.

Of course, that's all movement conservatives and "traditional" Republicans.  Today''s Republican party, post-Trump, has no identifying philosophy or policy stance, they just seemingly think it's enough to "own the libs".  And sadly, maybe it is.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5661

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2021, 09:03:55 am »
Actually, it was my wife telling me she was scared to get gas by herself that prompted my post.

Seeing rare events reported on the news skews oneís perception of the statistical likelihood of it happening to them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_world_syndrome




  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5661

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2021, 09:14:42 am »
Heck, an acquaintance of mine was just babbling on about how the private sector was so much more efficient etc. than the government, never mind that Emergent just ruined 15 million vaccine doses out of negligence.

The private sector invented the vaccine, no?

Four million vaccinations a day is whatís happening in the US. Fifteen million doses thrown out sets the timeline under which everyone who wants it can get it back four days. Not a huge amount of time. Factories in America are pumping out large amounts of vaccines. When will NETs in Korea be eligible? Maybe six months from now?


  • Kyndo
  • Moderator LVL 1

    • 1970

    • March 03, 2011, 09:45:24 am
    • Gyeongsangbuk-do
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2021, 09:21:10 am »
The private sector invented the vaccine, no?
With public funding.


Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2021, 09:40:16 am »
With public funding.

It's only socialism when it's given to individuals.


  • Kyndo
  • Moderator LVL 1

    • 1970

    • March 03, 2011, 09:45:24 am
    • Gyeongsangbuk-do
Re: Violence has passed the potential stage
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2021, 10:03:23 am »
Oh, of course.
I must've been out with my comrades tagging railroad bridges with capitalist graffiti during that particular lesson!