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Re: O Captain, my Captain!
« Reply #100 on: February 02, 2021, 04:00:15 pm »
Come to think of it I believe you've made that same comparison before! :laugh:

Is it only sensationalizing when someone else makes the comparison ?

You're agreeing it's sensationalized? Thank you.


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« Reply #101 on: February 02, 2021, 06:09:38 pm »
You're agreeing it's sensationalized? Thank you.

No Marti, I didn't make the claim of sensationalism but you did! I just juxtaposed it with the same claim that you made to highlight your hypocrisy.
Do you ever wonder why so many give up on your pathetic sh*t? :laugh:
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Re: O Captain, my Captain!
« Reply #102 on: February 03, 2021, 04:21:16 am »
No Marti, I didn't make the claim of sensationalism but you did! I just juxtaposed it with the same claim that you made to highlight your hypocrisy.
Do you ever wonder why so many give up on your pathetic sh*t? :laugh:
You're insulting shite.


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« Reply #103 on: February 04, 2021, 09:44:00 am »
No Marti, I didn't make the claim of sensationalism but you did! I just juxtaposed it with the same claim that you made to highlight your hypocrisy.
Do you ever wonder why so many give up on your pathetic sh*t? :laugh:
Your entire take on this is sensationalized. From declaring it to be some massive coup attempt to then posting that video as a "credible" source when they have people on there comparing things to Weimar Germany.

Why aren't you standing by your video? Why aren't you posting bit after bit from it instead of meandering off into personal attacks?


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Re: O Captain, my Captain!
« Reply #104 on: February 04, 2021, 02:08:14 pm »
Your entire take on this is sensationalized. From declaring it to be some massive coup attempt to then posting that video as a "credible" source when they have people on there comparing things to Weimar Germany.

Why aren't you standing by your video? Why aren't you posting bit after bit from it instead of meandering off into personal attacks?

Q: You know what you call attempted insurrection and takeover of a nation's seat of government when its leaders are not punished?

A: Rehearsal.


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« Reply #105 on: February 04, 2021, 02:34:41 pm »
Q: You know what you call attempted insurrection and takeover of a nation's seat of government when its leaders are not punished?

A: Rehearsal.
Yes, the proximate cause of the Civil War was the failure of the government to punish the ringleaders of the Whiskey Rebellion and Fries's Rebellion...oh wait...

Thank goodness we hanged Davis, Lee, Longstreet, Benjamin, Stephens, Breckinridge, etc. If we hadn't done that, our country would never have been unified and grown into the most powerful country on the planet Instead it would have seen another Civil War...oh wait.

Your point is a giant failure. Next time, before you post it, look for counter examples first. That might prevent you from reaching a poorly thought-out conclusion.


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« Reply #106 on: February 04, 2021, 02:51:41 pm »
Yes, the proximate cause of the Civil War was the failure of the government to punish the ringleaders of the Whiskey Rebellion and Fries's Rebellion...oh wait...

Thank goodness we hanged Davis, Lee, Longstreet, Benjamin, Stephens, Breckinridge, etc. If we hadn't done that, our country would never have been unified and grown into the most powerful country on the planet Instead it would have seen another Civil War...oh wait.

Your point is a giant failure. Next time, before you post it, look for counter examples first. That might prevent you from reaching a poorly thought-out conclusion.

Hmmm.

Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederacy, spent two years shackled to a wall in a Virginia prison.

Alexander Stephens, the vice president of the Confederacy, was arrested and held in prison at George’s Island in Boston until October, 1865. He was released from indemnity by Andrew Johnson, a pro-slavery, anti-Black President. He was elected to the Senate, which refused to allow him to sit.

They were the leaders of the confederacy.  (Generals follow instructions of leaders, considered to be combatants, and thus are treated differently.)

Your post is a giant failure.  Next time, before you post it, learn what the f*** you're talking about.


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« Reply #107 on: February 04, 2021, 03:55:05 pm »
Hmmm.

Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederacy, spent two years shackled to a wall in a Virginia prison.

Alexander Stephens, the vice president of the Confederacy, was arrested and held in prison at George’s Island in Boston until October, 1865. He was released from indemnity by Andrew Johnson, a pro-slavery, anti-Black President. He was elected to the Senate, which refused to allow him to sit.

They were the leaders of the confederacy.  (Generals follow instructions of leaders, considered to be combatants, and thus are treated differently.)

Your post is a giant failure.  Next time, before you post it, learn what the f*** you're talking about.
Since you consider these to be stern punishments, then I assume you are in favor of a 2-year sentence for whomever you blame for all of this and attribute as the head, and then 6 months for the sidekick. And everyone else being let go.

Thank you for being reasonable. Yes, one person gets 2 years. One other person gets 6 months.

Mr. C supports Proud Boys leader getting 2 years, Proud Boys deputy 6 months, no charges for anyone else for Capitol riot. I agree with Mr. C. I think that is fair.

You don't think I, the person who rambles about the Civil War and has posted various minutae about it didn't know that? You walked right into the trap. Now you either have to agree that those are sufficient punishments OR twist yourself in knots.

Again, THINK before you post. You were so focused on the detail that you missed the big picture and what you were doing.
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« Reply #108 on: February 04, 2021, 05:53:45 pm »
Since you consider these to be stern punishments, then I assume you are in favor of a 2-year sentence for whomever you blame for all of this and attribute as the head, and then 6 months for the sidekick. And everyone else being let go.

Thank you for being reasonable. Yes, one person gets 2 years. One other person gets 6 months.

Mr. C supports Proud Boys leader getting 2 years, Proud Boys deputy 6 months, no charges for anyone else for Capitol riot. I agree with Mr. C. I think that is fair.

You don't think I, the person who rambles about the Civil War and has posted various minutae about it didn't know that? You walked right into the trap. Now you either have to agree that those are sufficient punishments OR twist yourself in knots.

Again, THINK before you post. You were so focused on the detail that you missed the big picture and what you were doing.

My impression was you thought nothing had happened to them.  Apologies.

1) Donald Trump shackled to a Virginia prison wall for 2 years (just for the Jan. 6 speech), yes please.
2) Read for understanding, Stephens was pardoned so the charges of treason (a death sentence) were dropped.
3) Davis was released on bond and fled to Canada, and like the other Confederate leaders, was pardoned by Johnson.

Yes, I agree those you mentioned should be tried for treason, not pardoned, and sentenced to death.  But I'm not a big fan of the death penalty except for rare cases, so a long imprisonment is fine by me.


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« Reply #109 on: February 04, 2021, 06:38:38 pm »
My impression was you thought nothing had happened to them.  Apologies.

1) Donald Trump shackled to a Virginia prison wall for 2 years (just for the Jan. 6 speech), yes please.
2) Read for understanding, Stephens was pardoned so the charges of treason (a death sentence) were dropped.
3) Davis was released on bond and fled to Canada, and like the other Confederate leaders, was pardoned by Johnson.

Yes, I agree those you mentioned should be tried for treason, not pardoned, and sentenced to death.  But I'm not a big fan of the death penalty except for rare cases, so a long imprisonment is fine by me.
Clearly what happened was equivalent to the bloodiest conflict in American history that literally split the country in two.

What happened was obviously far closer to the Civil War than the Whiskey Rebellion.


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« Reply #110 on: February 04, 2021, 10:07:25 pm »
Clearly what happened was equivalent to the bloodiest conflict in American history that literally split the country in two.

What happened was obviously far closer to the Civil War than the Whiskey Rebellion.

Can't find Rebellion Whiskey, but I actually like bourbon better.



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Re: O Captain, my Captain!
« Reply #111 on: February 05, 2021, 03:43:48 am »
Can't find Rebellion Whiskey, but I actually like bourbon better.


I've always liked Rebel Yell.


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Re: O Captain, my Captain!
« Reply #114 on: March 01, 2021, 09:41:24 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMrbBaenrzc#

You are missed. The country needs you.


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Re: O Captain, my Captain!
« Reply #115 on: March 01, 2021, 10:36:48 am »
"Do you miss me yet?"

Given that he lost the popular vote twice, lost the House for the Republicans in 2018 and then the Senate and Electoral College in 2020, all while being the most unpopular president since opinion polling began, I think the country's answer is pretty clearly, "No."

It is astounding to me that anyone with a such a consistent track record of losing could ever be considered anything but a disaster for their party. I mean, in 1981 Democrats weren't all over TV talking about how Jimmy Carter was "The Greatest President in My Lifetime" and should run again in 1984.

By all means, though - keep Trump as the de facto leader of the GOP. I think he's an accurate reflection of its values and a much greater asset to the opposition than to conservatives. In an attempt to frighten people about waking up one morning to find themselves in Red Dawn, right-wingers have been saying for years that Bernie Sanders and "The Squad" are the "real" face of the Democratic Party. Yet those politicians have better track records of winning than Trump does. Imagine taking someone who was more disliked, and proved incapable of winning a single popular vote, and elevating him to the most prominent position in the party. Genius strategy. Keep it up, please.
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« Reply #117 on: March 01, 2021, 05:41:46 pm »


You are missed. The country needs you.

Perhaps you should send him all your money !


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