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  • hangook77
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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2020, 08:08:56 am »
if you're using a respectable cloud service, the chances of getting hacked are close to 0. but yes, i wouldn't really trust putting sensitive files onto the internet anyway- i'd store those offline on multiple backups. but for school files and general other stuff, cloud service is way better than a usb.

i mean, you could just argue "what if someone stole your usb? perhaps remote, but not 100% impossible". same difference.

anyway, your usb or external hdd is much more likely to crash or go bust than any cloud storage. in fact, "cloud storage becoming corrupted" just doesn't make sense. plus you have to manually back it up compared to using a cloud service like google's where it auto-back ups whatever folders you assign.

I guess I meant more if there was an outage or the servers went down or crashed?  Honestly I don't know a lot about it. 


Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2020, 08:28:34 am »
Best beans?  I really am not very knowledgeable about this topic. 

Just look for 볶는집 or 커피로스터스 on naver maps where you are.

Go in, grab some beans. A lot of places will have a bunch or beans from all over. I'm on a big Rwanda bean kick right now.


  • Kyndo
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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2020, 08:33:50 am »
I guess I meant more if there was an outage or the servers went down or crashed?  Honestly I don't know a lot about it. 

Valid concerns!
Cloud servers often have mirrors and backup servers to mitigate possible down-time. There is, apparently, a 99.9% uptime guarantee. Google Drive, for example, has been around for 8 years and has only gone down a dozen times or so... and for several of those occasions only for 5 minutes or so. When the outages are fixed, access to your files are restored. Insofar as I'm aware, files have as of yet never been lost by the hosting system.

 Also, most cloud drive hosts allows you to sync files onto other computers, so if you're worried about losing access to files, you can always keep self-updating copies on the classroom computers.


  • oglop
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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2020, 08:35:31 am »
true, but i'd be more worried about my school internet going down than the cloud servers, which happens more than it should :/ so i guess that could be a potential issue if you need to access your files


  • Kyndo
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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2020, 08:44:55 am »
Yep.
Always have offline filler activities in hand!


  • hippo
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    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2020, 03:33:45 pm »
I doubt many people this on a computer at a Korean workplace but I would advise you to avoid relying on iCloud.  It sucks.  I use it to have a second copy of my phone, but it sucks.  If you have a lot of files either for personal reasons or for work-related reasons, I recommend a service like BackBlaze.  You should have a second backup of your data that is not at your physical location.  I am tempted to post a link to get a referral bonus, but I believe that would make my recommendation seem suspect.  I am perfectly willing to pay six or seven USD a month to avoid losing my childhood photos and other digital things that have taken me countless hours to make over the year.  A cloud service such as Google Drive or Dropbox are not backups but rather sync services.  I wish they would be more upfront about this.


  • oglop
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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2020, 05:25:23 pm »
A cloud service such as Google Drive or Dropbox are not backups but rather sync services.  I wish they would be more upfront about this.
what is the difference


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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2020, 08:50:24 am »
If you accidentally delete photos on your phone, depending on your settings, you also loose all the photos on your cloud drive.
Im guessing that a back-up service doesn't allow you to delete files saved to it from another device.

I just want to note that you can play around with most cloud storage programmes to replicate that effect.
It's a bit of a pain in the butt though, because I take and immediately delete a lot of my photos. With that setting, I have to manually delete them twice. All that effort!  :cry:


  • oglop
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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2020, 11:00:32 am »
yeah i thought you could just choose whether you want that to happen or not. i used to use google drive as a backup before i discovered you could sync it too


  • hangook77
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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2020, 10:31:41 am »
If you accidentally delete photos on your phone, depending on your settings, you also loose all the photos on your cloud drive.
Im guessing that a back-up service doesn't allow you to delete files saved to it from another device.

I just want to note that you can play around with most cloud storage programmes to replicate that effect.
It's a bit of a pain in the butt though, because I take and immediately delete a lot of my photos. With that setting, I have to manually delete them twice. All that effort!  :cry:

Good thing I put everything onto my computer and burn onto a DVD (though I put scenic pics from a real camera onto these too). 


  • oglop
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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2020, 10:49:39 am »
Good thing I put everything onto my computer and burn onto a DVD
uhh


  • Kyndo
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Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2020, 11:06:56 am »
Just be aware that rewritable DVDs only last an average of 25 years before the information on them become irretrievable.

The cloud is forever: in the far future, both Skynet and the Matrix decide to end human civilization when they stumbled across ancient subreddits for MLP shipping while surfing the cybersphere.


  • hippo
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    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2020, 02:42:35 am »
true, but i'd be more worried about my school internet going down than the cloud servers, which happens more than it should :/ so i guess that could be a potential issue if you need to access your files
what is the difference

A service  like BackBlaze or CrashPlan is more designed to have a separate offsite backup.  Services like Google Drive, Dropbox, and others are designed to keep files synced up. Although it is possible, you generally donít use BackBlaze to retrieve files though they do have an apps to do that.  If there is an error in syncing (as apparently often happens in iCloud), then some of your files could be lost.  I suppose some problem could with BackBlaze, but it seems less likely.  I am sure Google and Dropbox have great security and redundancy, but they still are big targets.  Syncing up files seems to introduce more points of failures.  Even with Dropbox, the one I believe to be the most reliable, I have had a few sync errors though I was admittedly able to figure out what the problem was pretty easily (conflicts between files edited while offline or with bad internet connectivity).

Also, when you use BackBlaze there doesnít seem to be a limit on storage.  I have no idea how many terabytes of family videos and the like backed up on Backblaze along with on-site backups.  I used to carry SLRs around all the time and now 4k video takes a lot of space.

Even if donít use the services, if you want to learn more about what the good hard drives are, cloud backup storage companies can provide good data.  They use tons of hard drives and they have released information about failing hard drives in the past, so you can learn which ones to buy or avoid.

So you can use it to back up your work stuff and personal life.  It all depends on how much data you have.  I like having and on-site backup and an off-site backup.  If you donít have a lot of stuff to backup or it is not as personal, it might not matter as much.

I forgot: I am not sure about Korea, but in some countries they will also send you hard drives with your data if you have a lot of stuff, so it doesnít take 100 years to download your files.  You just send it back when you are done.

« Last Edit: December 29, 2020, 02:45:58 am by hippo »


  • oglop
  • The Legend

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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2020, 08:27:20 am »
you can choose to sync or not

at least on my mac, the files get checked for errors every time i restart my computer. although i suppose you can never be sure you won't get an error. even backing up to a HDD you might get a write error or corrupted files

i think google drive is a good system. the other day i accidentally overwrote a file on my mac, and panicked. luckily, google drive saves change history so although it synced the new file, i was able to recover the old one, too. that would have been impossible on most services

i suppose it all depends on which back up system/service/type you feel comfortable with


  • hippo
  • Super Waygook

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    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Tools every ESL teacher should have
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2020, 12:44:20 am »
A voice recorder.  Anyone that records your voice clearer is good enough but it is even if it includes a time stamp for the file names and transcribes voice to text reasonably well.  It doesnít have to transcribe perfectly.  Just enough so you can get the gist of the message in case you want to reference what you are looking for later that day.  One should be easy to find to suit oneís needs on any modern phone.

A voice recorder is useful when you donít have much time to write things down such as a busy time schedule.