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Lighter sentence because he was drunk.
« on: November 27, 2020, 05:36:11 am »
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2020/11/27/2003747690

Taiwanese student’s death launches petition in Seoul

By Kayleigh Madjar / Staff writer, with CNA

 

 

A petition has been launched calling for harsher drunk driving penalties in South Korea after a Taiwanese doctoral student was killed by an inebriated driver earlier this month in Seoul.

On the evening of Nov. 6, 28-year-old theology student Tseng Yi-lin (曾以琳) was walking home from her professor’s house — crossing the road at a green pedestrian light — when she was hit by a drunk driver.

South Korean authorities told Tseng’s parents that the driver would receive a lighter punishment “because the accident happened while the perpetrator was drunk,” the petition said.

In response, friends of Tseng on Monday initiated a petition on the petition portal of the Blue House’s Web site calling for harsher penalties for drunk driving.

Drunk driving accidents “can happen to any of our family and friends, regardless of nationality, age or gender,” the petition says.

“Drinking and driving is premeditated murder, and requires more, not less, severe punishment than other crimes,” it adds.

Tseng’s father, Tseng Ching-hui (曾慶暉) — head of anesthesiology at the Ministry of Health and Welfare’s Chiayi Hospital — also sent a letter to South Korean President Moon Jae-in, representatives and officials, which said that harsher penalties could act as a deterrent.

“How can such a tragedy be prevented from happening again if they only face a few short years in prison?” he asked. “This is the last thing we can do for our daughter.”

Five of Tseng Yi-lin’s childhood friends on Wednesday uploaded a video on YouTube urging people to sign the petition.

“To prevent more regrettable incidents from happening, we invite everyone to sign the petition to make not only the South Korean government, but people around the world pay more attention to the problem of drunk driving,” a friend said in the video.

The South Korea government is required to respond to a petition that collects 200,000 signatures or more within 30 days.

The petition must gather at least 200,000 signatures by Dec. 23 to receive a response from Seoul. As of yesterday, it had received more than 140,000 signatures.

After army conscript and student Yoon Chang-ho was killed in a drunk driving incident in 2018, South Korea’s National Assembly passed two acts in his name.

The first act, enacted that year, raised penalties for fatal drunk driving accidents to between three years and life imprisonment from at least one year to life.

In April, the South Korean Supreme Court revised its sentencing guidelines to recommend two to five years in prison for drunk driving offenders involved in a fatal accident, the Korea Times reported.

The recommended sentence would be raised to between four and eight years for repeat offenders, and up to 12 years for more heavily criticized cases, with room for heavier punishments if warranted, the court said.



I thought those days were gone in Korea, obviously not.   >:( >:(
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


  • CO2
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    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
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Re: Lighter sentence because he was drunk.
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2020, 07:40:23 am »
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South Korean authorities told Tseng’s parents that the driver would receive a lighter punishment “because the accident happened while the perpetrator was drunk,”

Anyone with half a fukking brain would realise that this is the OPPOSITE of what you should do. Fukk.


"I only murdered my wife cuz I was ANGRY. Can you understand?? I don't just KILL people."

"Your honour, I only raped that young woman cuz I was HORNY! If you hadn't been laid in 8 months, you'd sympathise."

"But your honour, I keep having dreams of PS5 and I was really JEALOUS of my neighbour who has one."

Would ANY of these hold up in court?? In Korea, they might. FUKK
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
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Re: Lighter sentence because he was drunk.
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2020, 07:41:09 am »
I don't get this, are they saying killing someone while driving drunk isn't as bad as killing someone while driving sober?  Can't be.

Drinking and driving is not premeditated murder by the way, that's just daft.

I guess we don't know all the facts but the only way this would be a defence is if the perpetrator admitted he wanted to deliberately kill the guy with his car and claimed when he made the decision his mind was clouded by alcohol. Still wouldn't be a defence in the West though.

« Last Edit: November 27, 2020, 07:42:57 am by stoat »


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Re: Lighter sentence because he was drunk.
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2020, 07:48:24 am »
Premeditated criminal negligence regardless of whether they hit somebody or not sounds more accurate.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2020, 07:50:21 am by Kyndo »


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    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
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Re: Lighter sentence because he was drunk.
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2020, 07:48:32 am »
I don't get this, are they saying killing someone while driving drunk isn't as bad as killing someone while driving sober?  Can't be.

This is one thing I'm skeptical about. The quote doesn't say that prosecutors said it, it says the petition said it.

And look, I have no idea who said what, let's get that clear. But SK authorities told the freshly grieving parents about how they're going to punish the perp?

"Yeah, sorry about your daughter, but he's gonna get off lighter, you know? He was drunk. But, totally sucks about your kid." Why would the Justice Ministry say anything about what will happen for sentencing days after the crime was committed?

Seems weird. BUT, we all know the "I was drunk" defence in Korean legal proceedings, so who the hell knows?
« Last Edit: November 27, 2020, 07:53:56 am by CO2 »
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


Re: Lighter sentence because he was drunk.
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2020, 07:53:47 am »
A link to the petition

https://www1.president.go.kr/petitions/594131

I don't get this, are they saying killing someone while driving drunk isn't as bad as killing someone while driving sober?  Can't be.

Drinking and driving is not premeditated murder by the way, that's just daft.

I guess we don't know all the facts but the only way this would be a defence is if the perpetrator admitted he wanted to deliberately kill the guy with his car and claimed when he made the decision his mind was clouded by alcohol. Still wouldn't be a defence in the West though.

When you make the decision to ingest alcohol or take any kind of substance which robs you of your wits you are still 100% responsible for your actions. You decided to put yourself in that state of mind, you're responsible, absolutely no other way to look at it.


Re: Lighter sentence because he was drunk.
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2020, 07:54:41 am »
Well, to be fair she was a foreigner, so who cares really.....ammirigh t???





*I signed the petition before any keyboard warriors show up thinking I meant that^


  • hangook77
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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
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Re: Lighter sentence because he was drunk.
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2020, 09:03:57 am »
Any moron with half a brain knows you should get the book thrown at you if you kill someone driving drunk. 

Now Korea does have some overkill laws on some other things, quite literally.  IE.  A co teacher told me about a dude walking up a mini expressway - not the full on tolled ones - but one where there should have been no pedestrians.  A car hit this person late at night going around a turn and police did try to charge this person and send them to jail. 

In this case, I would have sided with the driver.  In some cases, Korean law can screw you up even if it would have been a light penalty.  Still time in jail for that?  Shouldn't be.  But the situation above which was completely preventable by not driving drunk is ridiculous and absurd.  Korean logic. 


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    • February 15, 2019, 04:39:00 pm
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Re: Lighter sentence because he was drunk.
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2020, 02:02:49 pm »
Well, to be fair she was a foreigner, so who cares really.....ammirigh t???

Sad but true. Now, had it been a foreign English teacher who killed a Korean with similar criteria......





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