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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #580 on: February 15, 2021, 11:43:55 am »
Dude, the only person I recall that was making claims about cues on this thread was yourself in relation the legitimate actions of the Legislature exercising its proper functioning whilst exercising oversight of the Executive. According to yourself this proper functioning of a Federal constitutional system of governance exercising checks and balances over Executive power was labelled a cue!
Do provide actual quotes if you wish to correct me though. Your accusation here have even less credibility than Giuliani on a bad hair day.  :laugh: 
Hasty smart phone typing or drunk?

What I described is known as a soft coup. It's when a governing body uses pretexts, often medical or legal to depose someone.

Anyone with a brain knows the Russia stuff was baloney from the get go. The fact that the various agencies had to manipulate evidence, and in some cases outright manufacture it to get their FISA warrants proves that.

Do you have any issue at all with what went down during the investigation? You think its okay for intel agencies to manufacture evidence and deceive judges to go after an elected official? You think that isnt as bad as some guy in a yak hat?
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #581 on: February 15, 2021, 11:47:09 am »
Buddy, you haven't got a clue. I don't know who you, in your fever dreams are describing, but it sure isn't me.

As for getting a life, why don't you stop telling strangers what to do and think and get one of your own. But before you're on the way to doing that, stop drinking and driving.
Notice how you ignore the point about your and everyone else's behavior being inconsistent with a real coup?


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #582 on: February 15, 2021, 01:25:59 pm »
Notice how you ignore the point about your and everyone else's behavior being inconsistent with a real coup?

A coup doesnít need tanks rolling down the streets for it to be called a coup. Itís a miracle that more people didnít die in their act of insurrection.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #583 on: February 15, 2021, 01:30:28 pm »


What I described is known as a soft coup. It's when a governing body uses pretexts, often medical or legal to depose someone.
blah blah blah QAnon style deep state conspiracy!
 
Well, at least there was some progress there where you acknowledged you were the one asserting a claytons cue rather than myself. Just as the a matter of interest though for those of thus who care about language. Was the election loss part of this conspiracy according to your theory? If not when was the deposition of power that you speak of ?
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #584 on: February 15, 2021, 01:57:06 pm »
A coup doesnít need tanks rolling down the streets for it to be called a coup. Itís a miracle that more people didnít die in their act of insurrection.
Actually, its not a miracle when you look at what was actually being done. The death toll you got was about what you'd expect from that fracas- All the dead were the protesters, now that evidence is emerging that the cop who died was not in fact bludgeoned to death by protesters.

The death toll makes perfect sense if you don't try to blow this out of proportion. That's why there is a discrepancy between YOUR perceptions and the actual outcome.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #585 on: February 15, 2021, 10:28:47 pm »
Whatever happened to Marti the great Champion of free speech who had the last 1/2 dozen posts deleted because he was just too embarrassed  :-[


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #586 on: February 16, 2021, 05:09:14 am »
Notice how you ignore the point about your and everyone else's behavior being inconsistent with a real coup?
It's only a real coup if it's from the region coup d'etat. Otherwise it's just sparkling white terrorism.


Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #587 on: February 16, 2021, 10:18:26 am »
Whatever happened to Marti the great Champion of free speech who had the last 1/2 dozen posts deleted because he was just too embarrassed  :-[
Huh? I didn't have the posts deleted. I don't have that power. Maybe you should get more info before reaching a conclusion.

Why would I be embarrassed about posting links to mainstream media sources that highlight the irregularities and misconduct that was part of the Trump Russia investigation and not some "QAnon conspiracy theory"?
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #588 on: February 16, 2021, 01:01:00 pm »
It's only a real coup if it's from the region coup d'etat. Otherwise it's just sparkling white terrorism.

It's not beaucoup of a coup unless Marry says so!


Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #589 on: February 16, 2021, 02:06:21 pm »
It's not beaucoup of a coup unless Marry says so!
Was there some kind of organized meeting by the "plotters" of this "coup" when they breached the Capitol? Did they broadcast some sort of serious address (not joking 30 second video) to the people establishing a new government and calling on a serious uprising? Did they claim to be in control of the levers of government?

Where were the organized paramilitary units? Gun battles all across Washington? Coordinated uprisings across the country?

Deep down inside you know this wasn't a real coup. Stop lying to yourself.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #590 on: February 16, 2021, 02:19:12 pm »
It's not beaucoup of a coup unless Marry says so!

Coup D'etama



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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #591 on: February 16, 2021, 03:04:46 pm »
Was there some kind of organized meeting by the "plotters" of this "coup" when they breached the Capitol? Did they broadcast some sort of serious address (not joking 30 second video) to the people establishing a new government and calling on a serious uprising? Did they claim to be in control of the levers of government?

Where were the organized paramilitary units? Gun battles all across Washington? Coordinated uprisings across the country?

Deep down inside you know this wasn't a real coup. Stop lying to yourself.

Yeah but youíre going the completely opposite way and only calling it the worst QAnon cosplay convention ever.

Also, youíre kinda right, in that, it canít technically be called a coup because the lead instigator was the sitting President (albeit having lost the recent election).



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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #592 on: February 16, 2021, 03:27:08 pm »
Coupang insurrection...buy one Trump, get 7 free!


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #593 on: February 16, 2021, 03:45:50 pm »
Even though this should have all been forgotten by Super bowl, Marti is being seriously misunderstood here.

His point is that the a legitimate investigation into  Russian interference into the 2016 election which resulted in nobody being killed or injured and nobody was deposed from power was a far more serious soft coup than a violent insurrection a the Capitol building where rioters attempted to prevent certification of a president when 6 people lost their lives and over 100 police officers were injured!
He also has links to fox News to prove it! :laugh:

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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #594 on: February 16, 2021, 05:00:47 pm »
Even though this should have all been forgotten by Super bowl, Marti is being seriously misunderstood here.
His point is that the a legitimate investigation into  Russian interference into the 2016 election which resulted in nobody being killed or injured and nobody was deposed from power was a far more serious soft coup than a violent insurrection a the Capitol building where rioters attempted to prevent certification of a president when 6 people lost their lives and over 100 police officers were injured!
He also has links to fox News to prove it! :laugh:



You yourself acknowledge having seen the post
Whatever happened to Marti the great Champion of free speech who had the last 1/2 dozen posts deleted because he was just too embarrassed  :-[
So you know the links were to CNN, USA Today, and NBC News. Not FOXNews. I don't link to FOXNews when debating with you guys for precisely this reason. I've even made it a point of debate with conservative posters on this site.

Why is it so hard to admit that there were shenanigans with the Russia investigation?


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #595 on: February 16, 2021, 07:45:24 pm »
Was there some kind of organized meeting by the "plotters" of this "coup" when they breached the Capitol? Did they broadcast some sort of serious address (not joking 30 second video) to the people establishing a new government and calling on a serious uprising? Did they claim to be in control of the levers of government?

Where were the organized paramilitary units? Gun battles all across Washington? Coordinated uprisings across the country?

Deep down inside you know this wasn't a real coup. Stop lying to yourself.
LOL.

Investigations continue to show they were  organized.


Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #596 on: February 17, 2021, 12:45:14 am »
Let's do a roundup of fail

1. The Lincoln Project
Some of you posted links to their stuff and cited them. Woops.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/12/lincoln-project-scandal-468984

2. Trump-Russia
Yes, it was a sham investigation.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/fbi-abuses-domestic-surveillance-trump-campaign-eerily-echo-red-scare-ncna1113696
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/while-were-talking-about-abuse-of-power-lets-look-at-the-fbi/2020/01/23/b6dfda80-3e25-11ea-baca-eb7ace0a3455_story.html

Sorry, no FOXNews there Adel.

3. Biden Continuing Trump Policies or Breaking Promises
Biden called Trump's foreign policy a disaster, but is not really doing much to turn it around.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210213022139/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/on-the-domestic-front-biden-is-all-ambition-why-not-foreign-policy/2021/02/11/58a215f2-6ca8-11eb-9ead-673168d5b874_story.html

Biden Failing to Close Private Detention Centers
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article249182935.html

More Bumbling at the Border
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/03/biden-house-migrant-children-texas-facility-closed-under-trump/4378699001/

So much for "Following the Science"
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/13/biden-covid-schools-468979

4. The "Fine People" Hoax should be put to bed after this. Congrats to those who fell for it.
https://youtu.be/IHc3-gPxRw0?t=31

Video evidence of what a fake lie it was that Trump called Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists "fine people".
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #597 on: February 17, 2021, 12:50:50 am »
LOL.

Investigations continue to show they were  organized.
Yes, if there is one word that comes to mind when looking at these people, it's "organized."  :rolleyes:



Seriously, you guys took the most extreme conclusion and you just flat out refuse to budge on it despite common sense showing that it does not rise to that level. Why not just step back and call it something else and go the route I suggested from the getgo- Merciless mockery of these losers and scumbags who are going to all be seeing long prison terms?
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #598 on: February 17, 2021, 01:49:30 am »
"Very fine people" chose to march alongside white nationalists, at a rally organised and publicised by...white nationalists...to protest the removal of a statue glorifying a brutal slave owning seditionist who didn't want public statues glorifying himself in the first place.

"but you're changing history"  :laugh: :laugh:

Given the above has been demonstrated over pages in a separate thread 2 years back, I won't be going back and forth with you over it. Just laying down the context of the "hoax".

PS: take down statues of any slave owning founding fathers too and put them in museums alongside R. E. Lee...sheeeeeit!
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #599 on: February 17, 2021, 04:37:33 am »
Let's do a roundup of fail

1. The Lincoln Project
Some of you posted links to their stuff and cited them. Woops.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/12/lincoln-project-scandal-468984

2. Trump-Russia
Yes, it was a sham investigation.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/fbi-abuses-domestic-surveillance-trump-campaign-eerily-echo-red-scare-ncna1113696
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/while-were-talking-about-abuse-of-power-lets-look-at-the-fbi/2020/01/23/b6dfda80-3e25-11ea-baca-eb7ace0a3455_story.html

Sorry, no FOXNews there Adel.

3. Biden Continuing Trump Policies or Breaking Promises
Biden called Trump's foreign policy a disaster, but is not really doing much to turn it around.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210213022139/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/on-the-domestic-front-biden-is-all-ambition-why-not-foreign-policy/2021/02/11/58a215f2-6ca8-11eb-9ead-673168d5b874_story.html

Biden Failing to Close Private Detention Centers
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article249182935.html

More Bumbling at the Border
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/03/biden-house-migrant-children-texas-facility-closed-under-trump/4378699001/

So much for "Following the Science"
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/13/biden-covid-schools-468979

4. The "Fine People" Hoax should be put to bed after this. Congrats to those who fell for it.
https://youtu.be/IHc3-gPxRw0?t=31

Video evidence of what a fake lie it was that Trump called Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists "fine people".
Well done  Marti. You've presented quite an array of links there to bolster your case of whataboutism.  :laugh: