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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #300 on: January 09, 2021, 11:24:02 am »
Exacerbate things where? How? Is twitter a thing in China?
If you ban Trump but allow a Chinese govt tweet effectively endorsing genocide, the message that sends to Trump supporters and conservatives and even moderates and liberals is that their worst fears about our govt, institutions, and tech are correct.


Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #301 on: January 09, 2021, 11:27:19 am »
The China one? That says women should NOT just be baby making machines? The article linked says religious extremism made the birth rate higher through young marriages, bigamy, and unplanned pregnancies. Saying those words is “genocide”? China has a rule saying marriages are one man and one woman. (So does the United States.) Islam says one man and four women. Sometimes a child has to marry a much older man to be his second, third, or fourth wife. Sad situation to see children - minors - put into these arranged marriages. Better to let them grow up and make the choice of who to be with on their own.

Islam is incredibly detailed and specific when it comes to 2 issues in particular, marriage and inheritance.

1 - Islam allows for up to 4 wives, it doesn't instruct a man to take 4 wives.
2 - Specific conditions need to be met if a man is to take more wives:

a.) The first wife must give her permission
b.) The man must be of means to provide for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th wife in the same way he provides for himself and the 1st, in affection and finance (this typically means buying a separate house for each wife). Essentially, if he drives a Ferrari, all his wives should be driving cars of equal expense.
In my 30 odd years of living in a Muslim community back home I've only heard of one man who decided to do this and had the financial means.

3.) A woman cannot enter a marriage contract until she gives her full consent, without influence.
4.) The bride decides on the dowry, it can be any amount, and that dowry goes to her, NOT her family.

Point 4 is important as this is one of the reasons you see forced child marriages in certain rural areas in the Middle-East and Pakistan (I don't think it's really a thing anymore these days). Essentially, they ignored points 3 and 4 to the dowry
being determined by the family of the bride and the dowry being paid to the family; this essentially creates a situation of slavery where families use their daughters as a tradeable commodity.

China? One man has the right to one wife and as many underage prostitutes as he wishes... prostitute/girlfriend/mistress gets pregnant and he can bugger off scot free.
Islam? If you wish to have a 2nd wife, marry her so she's legally entitled to compensation if you decide to bugger off when she gets pregnant or you get bored of her.
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #302 on: January 09, 2021, 11:33:20 am »
If you ban Trump but allow a Chinese govt tweet effectively endorsing genocide, the message that sends to Trump supporters and conservatives and even moderates and liberals is that their worst fears about our govt, institutions, and tech are correct.

The Chinese government hates Muslims...trump and his supporters hate Muslims.

Try harder.


Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #303 on: January 09, 2021, 11:36:34 am »
The Chinese government hates Muslims...trump and his supporters hate Muslims.

Try harder.
Are you seriously comparing Trump's actions to the CCP and the Uyghurs?

Wow.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #304 on: January 09, 2021, 11:38:28 am »
In the spirit of "waiting for all the facts"...do we have her criminal history and toxicology report yet?

It's just in: she was way over the limit having consumed nothing but Trump-aid for the last 4 years.



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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #305 on: January 09, 2021, 11:39:58 am »
Are you seriously comparing Trump's actions to the CCP and the Uyghurs?

Wow.

They both like to lock innocent people in cages and have re-programmed large swathes of the population.


Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #306 on: January 09, 2021, 11:43:57 am »
They both like to lock innocent people in cages and have re-programmed large swathes of the population.

If you think Trump is on the same level as the CCP, you have TDS.

Those ppl arent innocent if they cross a border illegally. Victims? Sure, in many cases, but there is a legal procedure.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #307 on: January 09, 2021, 12:21:40 pm »
Are you seriously comparing Trump's actions to the CCP and the Uyghurs?

Wow.

Both publicise their disdain for and mistreatment of Muslims.

Again, try harder.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #308 on: January 09, 2021, 12:23:48 pm »
The only thing that stopped Trump from basically doing the same as the CCP is the US constitution amd the way the US government is set up.

If you believe trump wouldn't have put Muslims in concentration camps if he had unlimited power...you're the one with TDS.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #309 on: January 09, 2021, 12:25:54 pm »
If you think Trump is on the same level as the CCP,.



Well Trump has a  well documented appetite for authoritarianism. I'd say if he could be on the same level he would. Thankfully thus far the constitutional guard rails have prevented him. His lies have done a fair amount of  damage the polity and he has exposed how fragile democracy can be.  In this sense his erratic behaviour has aided and abetted adversaries such as China and his buddy in Moscow.  It will be challenging for future presidents to espouse the stability of your system of government internationally.
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #310 on: January 09, 2021, 02:39:45 pm »
It's just in: she was way over the limit having consumed nothing but Trump-aid for the last 4 years.



She was drunk off Trump fascist whiskey...please understand her unique and special situation.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #311 on: January 09, 2021, 03:35:07 pm »
Are you seriously comparing Trump's actions to the CCP and the Uyghurs?

Wow.
My nephew is a running back on his high school football team.  Walter Payton was a running back for the Chicago Bears.

Both of them try to take the hand-off, break through the line and make positive yardage.  I can compare their actions, see?


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #312 on: January 09, 2021, 04:00:25 pm »
Just keep an open mind, wait till you get all the facts, judge each case on accounts from both sides, not single video clips, and try not to be colour-prejudiced.
You'd be wise to follow your own advice!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nM3An1E2rQ

Ok so this time we've avoided single video clips and have posted a compilation. On the left of the screen you can see BLM protests in the streets and on the right you can see Trump supporting breaking into and ransacking the Capitol building. Do you detect any noticeable differences in the tone  and attitude of the police officers? Did you see the cop at the end of the clip posing for a selfie with a Trump seditionist?
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #313 on: January 09, 2021, 04:11:38 pm »
If you ban Trump but allow a Chinese govt tweet effectively endorsing genocide, the message that sends to Trump supporters and conservatives and even moderates and liberals is that their worst fears about our govt, institutions, and tech are correct.

So you're saying websites should ban Trump and ban vile Chinese propaganda, gotta say I agree with you.



Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #314 on: January 09, 2021, 06:04:40 pm »
As with all these kinds of incidents, I'll reserve judgement until all the facts come out.

Translation: I can no longer defend this bullshit


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #315 on: January 09, 2021, 06:25:41 pm »
Feds say police found a pickup truck full of bombs and guns near Capitol insurrection as wide-ranging investigation unfurls

An Alabama man allegedly parked a pickup truck packed with 11 homemade bombs, an assault rifle and a handgun two blocks from the US Capitol building on Wednesday for hours before authorities ever noticed, according to federal prosecutors.

Another man allegedly showed up in the nation's capital with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and told acquaintances that he wanted to shoot or run over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, prosecutors said.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/us-capitol-riots-arrest-pelosi-desk/index.html

Boy...ANTIFA have really outdone themselves this time by masquerading as MAGA White Supremacist Terrorist Morons Trump Supporting Patriots...thereby enacting the George Soros led globalist plan to taint righteous freedom lovers in a bad light.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #316 on: January 09, 2021, 07:44:47 pm »
No one thought our country or anyone was in serious danger. Why? All the tweets were about blaming Trump, not "OMG whats gonna happen? I don't know what to do" 9/11 style panic.

Go ahead and Reichstag fire this thing if you must. Trump and his supporters walked into it. Fair game.
All the tweets? You read every one?

"Holding five pairs of zip-tie handcuffs, a man in head-to-toe paramilitary gear coursed through the upper level of the U.S. Senate Chamber Wednesday, captured by a Getty photographer as a mob of President Donald Trump's supporters stormed the nation's Capitol.

The man was not with security, who'd recently evacuated U.S. Senators and Vice President Mike Pence from the floor below. Experts say he was among the rioters who disrupted U.S. Congress's certification of Trump's election loss with violence, resulting in five fatalities to date.

With his identity unconfirmed by officials as of Thursday evening, the motives of the man whose tactical gear is adorned with symbols indicating support for military and police — including a "thin blue line" in the shape of Tennessee — cannot be verified.

But for two counter-terrorism experts, the photographs bring to mind a recent plot hatched by Michigan extremist group the Wolverine Watchmen — to take politicians hostage after storming the state capitol and subduing law enforcement with Molotov cocktails, according to sworn Federal Bureau of Investigation statements in court documents.

'Incited violence': Several House Democrats call for Trump to be impeached over DC riots
Extremists recently plotted to storm a state Capitol, take hostages

The Michigan extremists eventually shifted their focus, from a siege on the state capitol to kidnapping Gov. Gretchen Whitmer from her home. The FBI announced the arrest of 13 people, on federal and state charges, in October.

Ari Weil, deputy research director for the University of Chicago's Militant Propaganda Analysis team, said the zip ties seen at the Capitol Wednesday are "reminiscent" of the Michigan plot — and suggest a desire to "conduct vigilante justice against members of Congress".

Malcolm Nance, a retired Navy counter-terrorism intelligence officer of 35 years and New York Times bestselling author of multiple books on national security, said he had the same thought as Weil when the zip-ties and tactical gear appeared on social media in the aftermath of the first breach of the building in more than 200 years.

"My greatest fear is that they use this mass of people to push through to breach the building — then what we call a Capture and Kill team," Nance said.

As the executive director of the Terror Asymmetrics Project, a small think tank studying the strategies and tactics of radical ideologies, Nance said he watched the mob escalate in real-time as his team tracked four different live streams from separate sides of the Capitol Wednesday."
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #317 on: January 10, 2021, 01:15:55 am »
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“Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,”  “Be there, will be wild!” Donald J Trump Dec 19th 2020


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"You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength. You have to be strong. ......
After this, we're gonna walk down and I'll be there with you......... But I think right here, we're gonna walk down to the CAPITOL,"
" Donald J Trump Jan 2021

incitement: noun: the action of provoking unlawful behaviour or urging someone to behave unlawfully.



Not all these guys would qualify for 'Americas Dumbest Seditionist' it would appear.
This one had the presence of mind to wear a mask and avoided the temptation to stream his terrorist activity live on social media! 
I think we can agree he looks kind of organised as if he had a pre-meditated plan.
One wonders what the Department of homeland Security has been up to lately.
Can anyone remember them?


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On the West Lawn of the Capitol Wednesday, a man in a pom-pom beanie clamored for blood. “Execute the traitors!” he shouted into a megaphone. “I wanna see executions!”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/01/trump-rioters-wanted-more-violence-worse/617614/

After the event, one of his final tweets
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“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”  Jan 8, 2021, President Donald J. Trump

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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #318 on: January 10, 2021, 07:45:46 am »
It was probably an off  duty cop in the picture with the zip ties or active military.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #319 on: January 10, 2021, 08:12:10 am »
It was probably an off  duty cop in the picture with the zip ties or active military.

One of them was
Lieutenant Colonel Larry Rendall Brock, Jr.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/larry-rendall-brock-jr-senate-rioter-in-tactical-gear-says-he-regrets-holding-zip-ties/ar-BB1cBEd0?li=BBnb7Kz