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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #260 on: January 08, 2021, 05:34:51 pm »
lol conservatives still defending domestic terrorism. No, you're not going to get to excuse this away and pretend it was no big deal just because it was a bunch of dumb white people. Pipe bombs were set, guns were drawn, people died, including a cop. This is what happens when your fascist thuggery is unchallenged.

At least hangook1234 realizes this looks bad and is pretending that it was all antifa's doing, though him stating this does makes him look insane.
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #261 on: January 08, 2021, 06:00:15 pm »
Do you think that the factors which led to people adopting the beliefs and behaviors on display yesterday are going away, then?
Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to predict. I mean, no one really thought Trump would become President. No one saw Bernie Sanders coming (well, most didn't).

I mean, there's already noises within the right-o-sphere of people being blackpilled and aif.

Movements crop up and fade away.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #262 on: January 09, 2021, 04:17:28 am »
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/jake-angeli-qanon-shaman-stormed-capitol-b1784091.html

It shouldn't be very difficult to track down these dropkicks. A lot of them took selfies and posed for the cameras.
One wonders why the FBI is seeking help for their identification.




It's hard to believe there's been so few arrest so far.  This riot was quite a contrast from the arrests made at BLM protests.

 https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/01/07/figures-show-stark-difference-between-arrests-at-dc-black-lives-matter-protest-and-arrests-at-capitol-hill/?sh=103403725706
They found him. He's from South Florida, currently in hiding.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #263 on: January 09, 2021, 04:24:15 am »
Personally my top 3 asks are Medicare for All (or something similar, he can call it Bidencare or whatever if he wants), reduced presence in the Middle East, and abolish ICE (replace it with something else if they must, but ICE is corrupt to the point you need to at least rebuild from the ground up).

I doubt we'll see much improvement on the first two if only because of the massive pharma lobby and the military-industrial complex. I do think there will be a return to Obama-era policies as regards migration, but I'd like to push for something a bit nicer than that. Interestingly enough I think that M4A-esque plans and reduced military presence actually flies with a significant enough amount of Republicans since a few of them will continue to model Trump and play at populism.
I think we'll see some improvement on healthcare as problems with the ACA are addressed and it will be made available to more and more people.  In the ME, they'll try to renew the treaty with Iran, which trump has made extremely tough and probably begin fully extricating the US from Iraq, which is falling apart.  But the drones will still be up. Reforming ICE is certainly needed, but would in a list or priorities probably be pretty far down the list.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #264 on: January 09, 2021, 04:25:30 am »
Ooh, an actual policy discussion on waygook.  I'm out of practice, hang on a sec. ... Okay, so M4A as you say has a large hurdle of Pharma, but also it will be labeled socialism and the Americans who depend the most on socialism really really hate things called socialism.  I think highway funding should be withheld from states that don't adopt state-wide rigorous standards for police officers, including ongoing training.  And everyone in jail over a dime bag should be released and their records expunged.

But policies come and go.  In my mind, the biggest matter of a presidency is actually SCOTUS.  I'm hoping Breyer will resign on Jan 21 or 22 and we'll some young blood in there, while Senate GOP is still on their back heels.  Next out is presumably Thomas (and I mean to retire, of course) but it's a long time until the next chance, unless something unfortunate happens.
Good call on Breyer. He's being pushed to resign by progressives for obvious reasons.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #265 on: January 09, 2021, 04:27:43 am »
ARMED INSURRECTION ARMED INSURRECTION ARMED INSURRECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you say it loud enough and with enough conviction, it will make it true.

Dude, people were more interested in selfies and social media follows than actual overthrow.

Calling this an "Armed insurrection" is an insult to REAL armed insurrections in 3rd world countries where thousands of people get killed and the government gets slaughtered and civil war breaks out. Stop trying to add unnecessary drama in your life just to make a point or make things interesting.

This is like when 1st worlders go without food for 18 hours and claim they're "starving."  "OMG MY HAGWON BOSS KEPT US WORKING FOR 8 HOURS STRAIGHT AND I COULDN'T GET LUNCH. HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES!!!!!!!!!!!"

Get a grip. Stop dialing everything up to 11.
The guy who wasn't there tries to tell us all about it.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #266 on: January 09, 2021, 04:30:25 am »
Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to predict. I mean, no one really thought Trump would become President. No one saw Bernie Sanders coming (well, most didn't).

I mean, there's already noises within the right-o-sphere of people being blackpilled and aif.

Movements crop up and fade away.
You seem to not have noticed that this is basically the tea party in a more radical form.


Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #267 on: January 09, 2021, 05:36:54 am »
"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government."
- Thomas Jefferson

WTF does any of this have to do with a bunch of salty cosplaying losers breaking and entering the Capitol to try and end democracy just because their cult leader lost an election? TRUMP LOST GET OVER IT.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #268 on: January 09, 2021, 06:21:18 am »
They found him. He's from South Florida, currently in hiding.

Someone needs to take this opportunity to pitch a new TV show 'America's Dumbest Seditionists' !
There would be a sh*t load of contestants.  This one Tim Gionet, aka Baked Alaska was another one streaming it live.


‘Baked Alaska’ stormed Capitol while COVID-19-positive
https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/streamer-baked-alaska-stormed-capitol-with-covid-19/

Meet Jenny Cudd from Midland Texas
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGsAOynAUf4

 https://twitter.com/Cleavon_MD/status/1347334743323394048
"WE did break down
@SpeakerPelosi's office door and somebody stole her gavel and I took a picture sitting in the chair flipping off the camera and that was on Fox News" 
@FBI

I guess they feel a sense of white privilege and an entitlement to break the law. There doesn't appear to be too much concern for the consequences of their actions does there?
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #269 on: January 09, 2021, 07:56:48 am »
Apparently one of the terrorist seditionists accidentally tased himself in the balls, giving him a fatal heart attack.

Darwin is having a field day! Or is it field week...


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #270 on: January 09, 2021, 08:15:48 am »
Apparently one of the terrorist seditionists accidentally tased himself in the balls, giving him a fatal heart attack.

Darwin is having a field day! Or is it field week...



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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #271 on: January 09, 2021, 08:16:36 am »
Twitter suspending Dear Leader's account must be the worst day for him in his Presidency. What else can he now from his toilet seat at 4am in the morning?


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #272 on: January 09, 2021, 08:24:23 am »
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I guess they feel a sense of white privilege and an entitlement to break the law. There doesn't appear to be too much concern for the consequences of there actions does there?   

I see, so white privilege and entitlement directly lead to crime in the US. Is that just for domestic terrorism or crime in general?


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #273 on: January 09, 2021, 08:27:09 am »
Twitter suspending Dear Leader's account must be the worst day for him in his Presidency. What else can he now from his toilet seat at 4am in the morning?

Pretty bad day for freedom of speech too. No matter what you think about Trump.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #274 on: January 09, 2021, 08:28:59 am »
Pretty bad day for freedom of speech too. No matter what you think about Trump.

I hear ya dude! It's pretty tough when your freedom to incite riots and sedition is taken away from you.


Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #275 on: January 09, 2021, 08:47:17 am »
WTF does any of this have to do with a bunch of salty cosplaying losers breaking and entering the Capitol to try and end democracy just because their cult leader lost an election? TRUMP LOST GET OVER IT.
I'll give MayorHaggar partial credit here- cosplaying losers pretty much sums them up. Certainly better than some of the over the top stuff.

It seems most of them weren't really trying to topple power, i.e. Yak guy. But there certainly was a cluster of crazies who were.


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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #276 on: January 09, 2021, 08:50:59 am »
I see, so white privilege and entitlement directly lead to crime in the US. Is that just for domestic terrorism or crime in general?

Ok so you're acknowledging these are 'acts of domestic terrorism'. How else would you explain the lack of concern or fear of any repercussions in these cases rather making any whopping generalisations?  Why wouldn't they feel concerned about filming themselves live breaking into offices in the Capitol building, vandalising, assaulting police officers and steeling property?  It's beyond stupidity even for Trump supporters.  :laugh:
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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #277 on: January 09, 2021, 08:57:46 am »
"Freedom of speech for me...none for thee!" - Conservatism 101



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Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #278 on: January 09, 2021, 09:04:32 am »
Perhaps this would help explain it.


Ever see this kind of treatment from police at BLM protest?


Re: Potential for Violence
« Reply #279 on: January 09, 2021, 09:10:15 am »