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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2020, 02:35:28 pm »
The average person is an idiot when it comes to police and this is because they can't differentiate between reality and movies/TV. They think cops should be able to shoot like John Wick, do a bunch of Ninja-Fu and Parkour, be stunt drivers, paramedics, mental health experts, know the law better than Johnnie Cochrane, be able to do CSI stuff, be as perceptive as Sherlock Holmes, be experts on culture and community relations, be Cesar Milan when it comes to handling dogs, be a brilliant negotiator and psychologist, and who knows what else. All while having at best an associates degree and getting paid a crummy government wage and dealing with the literally the worst elements of society.

If someone criticizes a cop for not being an expert in a field and they aren't a specialized cop, then that person is not part of the adult conversation and can be disregarded.

Either that or people thinks every cop car should be like a shuttlecraft from the Starship Enterprise with an away team ready to hop out and with 6 different experts there. I mean, that is what people want when they start talking about how mental health professionals and community liasons need to be riding along with cops. Basically you need a...

Leader and Authority (The MFing Sisko or Picard I guess)
Community Liason (Kira)
Mental Health Expert (Ezri or Troi)
CSI (Jadzia/Geordi)
Holmes (Odo/Data)
EMT (Bashir/Crusher)
Hand to Hand Guy (Worf/Worf)
Stunt Driver+Roadside Assistance (O'Brien)
Human Lie Detector (Garak/Riker)
Negotiator (Quark)
Be Willing to Take a Bullet (Tasha Yar)
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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2020, 05:23:16 pm »
True, in more encouraging news Britain's Got Talent has lost a million viewers since resident dance troop Diversity performed their BLM inspired routine recently. Despite generating 24,500 complaints, Offcom decided it didn't breach any impartiality or appropriacy for family entertainment rules . Instead arguing it was good for social cohesion.  :shocked: Ha, the silent majority makes another stand.


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2020, 06:06:53 pm »
US society needs to change if “defund the police” is going to work.

Suspicion of the government is ingrained in the culture, and “socialism“ is a curse-word.


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2020, 07:20:10 am »
True, in more encouraging news Britain's Got Talent has lost a million viewers since resident dance troop Diversity performed their BLM inspired routine recently. Despite generating 24,500 complaints, Offcom decided it didn't breach any impartiality or appropriacy for family entertainment rules . Instead arguing it was good for social cohesion.  :shocked: Ha, the silent majority makes another stand.

What exactly were the complaints?

Just 4% of the 24,500 complaints were made in the immediate aftermath of the programme being aired, suggesting these were people who were offended by the original broadcast after watching it live.

The majority were filed over the following weeks, following repeated news stories about the original number of complaints.
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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2020, 08:03:53 am »
Why does it matter whether they watched the program or not? People are annoyed and complaining about BLM stuff appearing on non political TV shows as if everyone should automatically be behind the movement. Why do people in England have to watch premier league players openly supporting a Marxist organization that has nothing to do with the policing situation in our country?  You can bet that would never happen  if there were people in the stadiums.


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2020, 08:51:30 am »
Why does it matter whether they watched the program or not? People are annoyed and complaining about BLM stuff appearing on non political TV shows as if everyone should automatically be behind the movement. Why do people in England have to watch premier league players openly supporting a Marxist organization that has nothing to do with the policing situation in our country?  You can bet that would never happen  if there were people in the stadiums.

I thought the left were supposed to be the snowflakes

I guess it doesn't really matter if they watched the program. But if 96% of the complaints were lodged after reading one of the many Daily Mail articles rallying against it instead of after actually watching the performance, it's not very surprising  that the complaints were dismissed.
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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2020, 09:00:03 am »
How do we know the 96% didn't watch the performance? They may not have watched it on the original airing but they most certainly could have watched it after reading an article or hearing about it, then formed an opinion and then acted upon it.

The BLM movement started as something righteous but has devolved into just another pseudo-terrorist thing. How does rioting, looting, setting fire to businesses and cars etc help black people's lives?


Re: Defund the police
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2020, 09:08:53 am »
BLM is many things, including a slogan, an organization, a mindset, a broader movement, etc. While often people overlap, it's not cohesive and there can be a vast gulf between people regarding tactics and beliefs.

Now you can certainly call out certain people or groups who proclaim BLM and riot and loot, but the entire movement is not responsible for it anymore than "Free Tibet" would be responsible for some random act of violence by a fringe Tibetan nationalist.


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2020, 09:29:00 am »
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I thought the left were supposed to be the snowflakes

They were in the original sense of the word. Nowadays when it basically means anyone who voices their disagreement with something, pretty much everyone is.


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2020, 09:30:46 am »
BLM is many things, including a slogan, an organization, a mindset, a broader movement, etc. While often people overlap, it's not cohesive and there can be a vast gulf between people regarding tactics and beliefs.

Now you can certainly call out certain people or groups who proclaim BLM and riot and loot, but the entire movement is not responsible for it anymore than "Free Tibet" would be responsible for some random act of violence by a fringe Tibetan nationalist.

Who was it that said 'Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.' ? I think BLM skipped the first stage though.


Re: Defund the police
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2020, 09:41:15 am »
https://www.google.co.kr/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html
93% nonviolent

Infiltration is not a new concept and yes some blm protests turn violent/loot. But the vast majority are peaceful. Remember that hells angels associate that was smashing windows at a auto parts store in mn???

https://www.google.co.kr/amp/s/www.bostonherald.com/2020/07/28/police-hells-angel-sparked-minneapolis-riots-over-floyd/amp/



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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2020, 09:41:37 am »
Same goes for the idea that it's a "Marxist organization".  That's like saying the women's suffrage movement was a Quaker organization. My brother organized a local BLM rally that attracted about 1,000 people. He is not a Marxist - in fact, he's a small business owner. There was  no looting, rioting or "terrorism". Same applies to 98% of other BLM activities, as anyone who actually cares about this topic, and isn't simply trying to spread hate, understands.

It said they were a Marxist organisation on their official website in the 'what we believe' section'. Until they took it down.


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2020, 10:13:35 am »
Where?

https://web.archive.org/web/20200917194804/https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

It will difficult to find because at no point have they described themselves as "a marxist organization" or have those words ever been on their website.


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2020, 11:07:45 am »
My mistake, they said they were Marxists in an interview, it said they wanted to dismantle the nuclear family on the website.

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“We actually do have an ideological frame[work],” Cullors said of her organization. “We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories.”

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Meanwhile, the national organization’s official platform, published in 2015, contained a specific call to “[disrupt] the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure.”

https://fee.org/articles/is-black-lives-matter-marxist-no-and-yes/

Good enough for me. Though of course, people organising marches/posting black squares on facebook etc. aren't necessarily aware of this.


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Re: Defund the police
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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2020, 11:23:34 am »
Watch out guys, L1 posted a video


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2020, 11:52:15 am »
Watch out guys, L1 posted a video

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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2020, 11:57:10 am »
it seems 90% of people out there can't see a group of people in ideological opposition to themselves without assuming they're some sort of international terror group bent on world domination. It's like people freaking out about the Tea Party of a bunch of people in MAGA hats. "OMG look at the Nazis. I saw some video where they picked out the most extreme crazy guy in general proximity who said extreme crazy crap- They all think like that!!!!!"

Why do so many people on this site constantly shit themselves in fear? MUSLIMS!!!!! TRUMP!!!!!!!! BLM!!!!!!!! KOREA TIMES!!!!!!!! GEORGE SOROS!!!!!!

The reverse of this is the people who fanboy JOHN STOSSEL!!!!!!! JORDAN PETERSON!!!!!!! DAVID PAKMAN!!!!! BEN SHAPIRO!!!!!!!


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2020, 12:02:46 pm »
it seems 90% of people out there can't see a group of people in ideological opposition to themselves without assuming they're some sort of international terror group bent on world domination. It's like people freaking out about the Tea Party of a bunch of people in MAGA hats. "OMG look at the Nazis. I saw some video where they picked out the most extreme crazy guy in general proximity who said extreme crazy crap- They all think like that!!!!!"

Why do so many people on this site constantly shit themselves in fear? MUSLIMS!!!!! TRUMP!!!!!!!! BLM!!!!!!!! KOREA TIMES!!!!!!!! GEORGE SOROS!!!!!!

The reverse of this is the people who fanboy JOHN STOSSEL!!!!!!! JORDAN PETERSON!!!!!!! DAVID PAKMAN!!!!! BEN SHAPIRO!!!!!!!

This is possibly the most centrist take I've seen from you yet.


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Re: Defund the police
« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2020, 12:06:15 pm »
JOHN STOSSEL!!!!!!! JORDAN PETERSON!!!!!!! DAVID PAKMAN!!!!! BEN SHAPIRO!!!!!!!

except we've seen a (metric) ***load of stossel and peterson links on this site and only a few pakmans (tbh i havent seen any but i'm trying to be fair).

conclusion: open the shapiro floodgates
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