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  • hippo
  • Super Waygook

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    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Voting from Abroad
« on: September 20, 2020, 09:24:50 pm »
The US election is close and I am curious to hear voters' experiences voting from Korea.  Success stories, difficulties, etc.  I also posted some links I already posted elsewhere just to make them easier to find.  In the previous thread, they are on an old page.  Whatever your point of view, the results of the US election will have a significant impact and those of us who are US citizens can contribute by voting. Any way to circumvent problems would be helpful to mention as well. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/17/how-to-make-sure-your-vote-is-counted

www.votefromabroad.com

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/voting.html

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/2020-voting-guide.html
« Last Edit: September 20, 2020, 09:29:59 pm by hippo »


  • gogators!
  • The Legend

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    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2020, 09:37:44 pm »
When I was in Korea, I voted in the US without any problems by requesting an absentee ballot by email.


  • Nokcha
  • Super Waygook

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    • August 22, 2012, 02:37:27 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2020, 07:54:31 am »
I just voted. I received my online ballot from the county where I'm registered in California. I completed my voting online. Then, I printed all the documents and faxed them to the county recorder's office.  Easy. You can scan the documents and email if you prefer.

The process is easy and very straight forward.

If you were here or abroad the last election, you still need to check your voter registration and reapply for your absentee ballot for this election. I was not aware of this. Fortunately, I received a notice from my county regarding this issue.

:)


  • buckybee
  • Veteran

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    • August 30, 2015, 02:36:08 pm
    • Daejeon
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2020, 08:53:50 am »
I was thinking about faxing my documents too. The stationary store nearest my house said it would cost 4,000 won per page. I'm curious what your rate was. Cheaper by any chance?


Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2020, 12:05:51 pm »


postage was only 24k KRW  :sad:


  • hippo
  • Super Waygook

    • 255

    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2020, 11:37:21 am »
I also paid the 24,000 won.  My ballot had been straight to my Spam folder.
 
I think you pay less to have your vote sent if you can get it to the US Embassy they will send it via diplomatic pouch. 

https://kr.usembassy.gov/073020-voting-2020-your-vote-counts/


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2020, 11:48:42 am »
I sent a letter to the US. Paid 700 won. As I was walking down the street the post office worker chased after me and shouted to come back ... then  made me do express mail. That was 24,000 won. No longer possible to do slower mail abroad?


  • hippo
  • Super Waygook

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    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2020, 12:12:53 pm »
I sent a letter to the US. Paid 700 won. As I was walking down the street the post office worker chased after me and shouted to come back ... then  made me do express mail. That was 24,000 won. No longer possible to do slower mail abroad?

I could not even mail postcards through regular mail the last time I tried it (a few months ago).

The only way I know of to get around it EMS fee is to do it through the US Embassy.  Getting it to the Embassy is adding another step also.  I hope someone can correct me if they know of another easier way.


Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2020, 03:27:27 pm »
I live in New Zealand, a modern country where fax machines are no longer used, unlike antiquated South Korea. I went around my city looking for a fax machine but they just do not exist. I used some weird online service to fax my ballot to the US county I'm registered to vote in, not sure if it worked or not.

Faxing is such a stupid method to do it. If I can send thousands of dollars between accounts online without anyone hacking my accounts or impersonating me, why the **** can't I vote online? Faxing would be way easier to commit fraud with.
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Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2020, 04:21:48 pm »
Before sending in my ballot I emailed my county clerk, noting that my filled-in ballot would not have her or the ballot preparerís signature as seemed to required for any ballot to be counted. She emailed me back saying thatís fine; when they receive the ballot they fill in a replica with the official ballot, sign it, and then *thatís* whatís counted in the election. Even my wife had a sardonic laugh at how backward, inefficient, and insecure the voting system is.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2020, 05:24:59 pm by Don Hobak »


  • hippo
  • Super Waygook

    • 255

    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2020, 09:54:57 pm »
We just have to put up with it for now.  I trust paper ballots way more than electronic ballots unless the electronic ones have a paper trail backing them up.  Thereís are tons of stories on Ars Technica if you search for voting about how untrustworthy electronic voting machines are or just about any tech site for that matter.

Anyway, they told me my vote would take about a month to reach the US even though I sent it via EMS.  I hope I misheard that.  I asked her to repeat herself and I guess it might just take a month for EMS.

Now is the best time to vote if you have not voted and you plan to vote.



  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2020, 10:26:47 pm »
Nowís the best time to vote. Pay 24,000 won to do your duty to your country.


  • hippo
  • Super Waygook

    • 255

    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2020, 10:34:19 pm »
Now is an excellent to send ballots off before the holidays mail to the US.


  • hippo
  • Super Waygook

    • 255

    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2020, 02:54:30 pm »
 Some deadlines to register to vote are attached to this message.


  • buckybee
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    • August 30, 2015, 02:36:08 pm
    • Daejeon
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2020, 09:15:38 am »
We just have to put up with it for now.  I trust paper ballots way more than electronic ballots unless the electronic ones have a paper trail backing them up.  Thereís are tons of stories on Ars Technica if you search for voting about how untrustworthy electronic voting machines are or just about any tech site for that matter.

Anyway, they told me my vote would take about a month to reach the US even though I sent it via EMS.  I hope I misheard that.  I asked her to repeat herself and I guess it might just take a month for EMS.

Now is the best time to vote if you have not voted and you plan to vote.



I sent my by EMS too and she told me it will take anywhere between 2 weeks to a month. I sent mine right before Chuseok. The mailing time might vary by state though.


  • shostager
  • Super Waygook

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    • November 06, 2012, 06:08:10 am
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2020, 09:24:12 am »
I was also told that it might take a month by EMS. I sent mine right before Chuseok, and already got the message that it's been delivered, so YMMV.


Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2020, 10:03:30 am »
My completed ballot sent via EMS arrived in about 2 weeks.


  • hippo
  • Super Waygook

    • 255

    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2020, 05:25:39 pm »
Yes, I got confirmation mine arrived in the US just before Chuseok also.

It would be really nice if we could manage to keep voting threads visible here and everywhere else you are online.    8)

There's still a lot of time, particularly for those in the states with fewer voting restrictions.


  • fka
  • Expert Waygook

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    • September 05, 2019, 06:37:44 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2020, 09:58:46 pm »
Deposited mine at the embassy today. As far as I'm aware, they're keeping the dropbox going after today, but can't guarantee anything arriving before the election deadlines. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


  • hippo
  • Super Waygook

    • 255

    • July 16, 2011, 11:28:36 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Voting from Abroad
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2020, 12:40:30 am »
Some deadlines.  It is still not to late to mail your ballot in via EMS.  The more votes the better.

Voters From Abroad gives good information if you search.  Itís better to send a ballot just after the holidays but you can do a FWAB if you are running out of time. 

I have not been on a base in a while.  They might have some options also.  I donít live near a base anymore.