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  • KimDuHan
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1332

    • January 15, 2015, 11:48:59 am
    • Seoul
If you could go back in time with all the knowledge you know now would you still choose to move to Korea?

Or would you change your life decision of moving to Korea? Why?



  • hangook77
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1813

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2020, 12:20:56 am »
Tough one to answer.  I kept hearing go to Korea and make lots of money.  I got here finally and shortly after the golden age came to an end.  The Great Recession flooded the market and teaching here has never been the same.  I am grateful, I went to provincial EPIK and rose through the payscale.  Otherwise Korea wouldn't have been it the last few years.  So coming, I can't say I'd do anything different.  I did think my first year or two being out in the country sucked when I could have been up in Seoul.  (Asking questions on Daves was met with silence and crickets.  Might as well have called that site Seoul ESL Cafe.  Hardly any foreigners back then out in the provinces or the countryside, unlike now.)  But those areas up north got bamboozled hard after the recession hit.  First senior teachers who had been there a few years got the boot from GEPIK and SMOE and replaced with 22 year old blond pretty females who spoke American English.  Then, it got competitive for worsening conditions.  Then, it got easy to get work, but wages stagnated up there.  (Thankfully, EPIK was a bit more professional, though 2010 and 2011 saw quite a few years long teachers dropped and non renewed.) 


  • Cyanea
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1364

    • September 04, 2016, 01:48:24 pm
    • Las Vegas
Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2020, 12:38:05 am »
It was a good decision to make at the time.  In the early 2000's  Korea paid well and it was all too convenient.  You could spontaneously pick up and drop work whenever you wanted at a moments notice, there was zero visa hassle. It was freedom.

The rot started with CPN and all the CBC/ transcript requirements. The bureaucracy and paperwork hassle has only increased over the years . You now need to be very tactical and cautious about planning and timing your employment.


If I was the same age again now though I would not choose Korea. 
Catch my drift?


  • VanIslander
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    • June 02, 2011, 10:12:19 am
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Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2020, 09:50:43 am »
The ultimate Nietzschean question: How well disposed do you have to be toward your life to wish it to repeat itself endlessly eternally? Does the thought make you knee down and weep in joy or shudder in dread?


Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2020, 10:53:48 am »
I would have gone both times. My first was so easy it was absolutely painless. I was getting out of Canada. The 2nd time was all about the money. Both times worked out great. Both times I had such easy gigs making great money doing no work and just super relaxed.

My first time I had 3 months paid vacation. There was no desk-warming back then. I went to Thailand.


Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2020, 10:58:23 am »
I would do it again, but I would have made some different decisions while here.


  • tylerthegloob
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • September 28, 2016, 10:46:24 am
    • Busan
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Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2020, 11:22:58 am »
The ultimate Nietzschean question: How well disposed do you have to be toward your life to wish it to repeat itself endlessly eternally? Does the thought make you knee down and weep in joy or shudder in dread?

i love living here and im really glad that i live here (just to get the answer to that question out of the way).

as for the deeper question, i think it's cool to have both. i've made some decisions that i would definitely make again (regardless of how things turned out) and i've made others that force me to wonder what could've happened had i chosen differently

"Marry, and you will regret it; don't marry, you will also regret it; marry or don't marry, you will regret it either way. Laugh at the world's foolishness, you will regret it; weep over it, you will regret that too; laugh at the world's foolishness or weep over it, you will regret both." so it goes!


  • Cyanea
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1364

    • September 04, 2016, 01:48:24 pm
    • Las Vegas
Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2020, 12:38:20 pm »
I would do it again, but I would have made some different decisions while here.

Right.

I have some regrets,.. as regards various people. But that is what time is for. So you learn.
Catch my drift?


  • VanIslander
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Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2020, 02:41:15 pm »
I've lived this life.

So, if I could remember this life, I'd take some roads not taken.

Though, if I would have no memory, I'd stick with my life.

For example, I had a plane ticket to Phuket for the Christmas holidays of 2004. I was gonna use those quaint shacks down by the beach, certainly no high-rise hotel. I wanted that by-the-beach vibe.

If i hadn't slipped in my apartment bathroom on Geoje and messed up my knee and ankle (limped for six months afterwards), I wouldn't have changed my plans, - having decided instead to sit in a CELTA classroom in New Zealand (last minute, they had an opening) - and i would have been at the beach when the tsunami hit!!!! And i had no idea about the water retreating as a sign so curious me would have likely walked out to see the newly exposed beach crabs, if i wasn't still snoring in the hut.

There are two other near-death lucky experiences i've had.


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

    • 2132

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2020, 09:50:43 pm »
So, back in the early 80s, my girlfriend was on a health kick, which pretty much meant I was on a health kick too.

There was a new healthy product on the market called "Quaker Oat bars."  Basically granola in bar form.

I was crunching on one of these, and said, "You know, this wouldn't be too bad if it was covered in chocolate."

She laughed and laughed.

So, someone else "invented" the Kudos Bar. 
Mr. C is not a bad person, in fact is quite a good person here. One of the best people on this forum if you really look at it
-Mr.DeMartino


Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2020, 01:03:04 am »
So, back in the early 80s, my girlfriend was on a health kick, which pretty much meant I was on a health kick too.

There was a new healthy product on the market called "Quaker Oat bars."  Basically granola in bar form.

I was crunching on one of these, and said, "You know, this wouldn't be too bad if it was covered in chocolate."

She laughed and laughed.

So, someone else "invented" the Kudos Bar.

So you would go back in time to the early Reagan Era, preemptively invent (mass produce, market, etc) Kudos bars, marry the girl, and move to Korea as a successful entrepreneur?


  • VanIslander
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Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2020, 04:08:18 am »
I loved oats with chocolate.

In college I thought I had an original idea: instead of peanut butter and strawberry jam, my favorite nut and raisin combo: cashew butter and cranberry jam! ... I googled it years later when the Internet took off, and discovered a few others had already thought of it.


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Would history repeat itself? (Would you change your life path?)
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2020, 08:01:07 am »
So you would go back in time to the early Reagan Era, preemptively invent (mass produce, market, etc) Kudos bars, marry the girl, and move to Korea as a successful entrepreneur?
Well, I wouldn't marry her, unsupportive bitch!

That was only a joke, men should never refer to women in derogatory terms, even flippantly unsupportive ones.  But, I still wouldn't marry her, even though she was out of my league.
Mr. C is not a bad person, in fact is quite a good person here. One of the best people on this forum if you really look at it
-Mr.DeMartino