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  • tylerthegloob
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2020, 07:41:23 am »
Did he just write a long list for people here who are in their 30s+
ok boomer

(i'm so sorry ronnie. i'm so, so sorry...  :cry:)
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  • oglop
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2020, 07:55:31 am »
Did he just write a long list for people here who are in their 30s+, have travelled a lot and have lived in foreign countries for numerous years, about how they should be socialising?   

It would seem my British ways of:

1:  Ordering as many pints as possible and drinking them as quick as possible.
2:  Avoid paying for any round by going the bogs at the opportune moment.
3:  Slurring my speech, while insisting everyone speaks proper English, like me and the queen, and Benedict Cuminmyhand.
4:  Have noticeable sweat patches under my arms.
5:  Making a point aggressively about when I got found a pork scratching with hair on it.
6:  Hook up with some minger and make the point of snogging her in front of everyone.
7:  Continue to be loud and obnoxious until kicking out time and then puking on the street outside the door. 

Obviously, I've been doing it all wrong, it would appear.  :undecided:
wait..i didn't know you were Big Al, who i see (and avoid) down spoons every friday


  • VanIslander
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2020, 08:20:29 am »
... going the bogs...

insisting everyone speaks proper English, ...

... I got found a pork scratching with hair...

... with some minger and make the point of snogging...
One.thing.is.not.like.the.others.


Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2020, 09:11:32 am »
"I do know that in some cases, subcultures might invite you out because the person who invites you wants to see if you can blend well because they like hanging out with you, but aren't sure if you'll be able to handle the setting. "
You know this is a regular things with immigrants when you get invited to hang out with all the "Insert Group Xs" and you're the only non-X there, right? No one's going to hold your hand and fawn over you. I know you believe you're entitled to that, probably because that's what you do in SE Asia or as "Center of Attention Oglop Teacher" but that's not what's done.

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you hang out with some strange people. but it still sounds like you're ok with hanging out with a group of people who invited you out and ignore you for the whole night. nothing says "i like you" than refusing to speak to you for the entire night.
No one's refusing, but no one's going to hold your hand and spend the entire night treating you like some 6 year old who demands that everyone pay attention to them and talk about Ninja Turtles.

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anyway, thanks for the tips on how to socialise, rainman
The tips are for you, because you're the one that is apparently utterly helpless at socializing in such a situation.


Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #84 on: June 26, 2020, 09:16:31 am »
Bizarre. Tips on how to make friends with people who ignore you all night. It reads like instructions for a spy or an undercover police officer whose mission is to infiltrate the group. Most people aren't that desperate.
Have you ever invited the one Korean out to join the group of waygooks? Maybe his English one on one is alright but get them in a group of foreigners who are bouncing back and forth and trading jokes and insults and stuff and their English disappears. Are you paying attention to them all night? Are you making sure to include them in everything and explain things? Or are people going to have their fun and do their thing? At some point they either have to be able to keep up or deal or it isn't going to work out because no one is going to spend the entire night speaking slowly and simply and talking about Gangwon-do.

It's the same effing thing, only this time YOU are the Korean. YOU are the one that has to manage.

Did he just write a long list for people here who are in their 30s+, have travelled a lot and have lived in foreign countries for numerous years, about how they should be socialising?   
Apparently oglop and stoat are so inept that they can't handle the basic social situation of being around people who are bilingual and expect said people to make them the center of attention and cater everything towards them 24-7.


  • stoat
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #85 on: June 26, 2020, 10:42:39 am »
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It's the same effing thing, only this time YOU are the Korean. YOU are the one that has to manage.


No it isn't the same effing thing, we were talking about South Africans working as NETs in Korea refusing to speak English in the pub. Do you really need it spelling out again?

A - is a native English speaker but doesn't speak or understand any Afrikaans
B, C, D, E. All speak Afrikaans and English fluently but decide to speak Afrikaans all night, despite inviting A out for the evening. In any social etiquette book in any country in the world, this = rude. OK?

This would only not be rude if the South Africans' English wasn't that great, but as LI pointed out, in that case what are they doing teaching English in Korea?
« Last Edit: June 26, 2020, 10:50:55 am by stoat »


  • D.L.Orean
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #86 on: June 26, 2020, 10:51:23 am »
No it isn't the same effing thing, we were talking about South Africans working as NETs in Korea refusing to speak English in the pub. Do you really need it spelling out again?

A - is a native English speaker but doesn't speak or understand any Afrikaans
B, C, D, E. All speak Afrikaans and English fluently but decide to speak Afrikaans all night, despite inviting A out for the evening. In any social etiquette book in any country in the world, this = rude. OK?

No, you're not doing it right. This is your opportunity to learn Afrikaans. And just interject yourself into the banter and hope you've got it right.

Just the other week I invited a Korean friend, who I communicate in English with, out for a beer with another English teacher. Me and the other English teacher decided to use German all night. I'm sure my Korean friend struggled because he knows absolutely no German. But he should've tried to get involved more. There's no way we were being rude.


  • OnNut81
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #87 on: June 26, 2020, 10:58:21 am »

its a bit like the way Koreans were 20 years ago. They would not even speak to outsiders if they could possibly avoid it and if one did then they got ostracized and criticized  by other koreans. 


VanIslander was right.  That statement was completely fabricated.  It was not like that whatsoever twenty years ago.  And other Koreans without the language skills to really talk or socialize were openly envious of those that could. 


  • stoat
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #88 on: June 26, 2020, 11:11:09 am »
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Just the other week I invited a Korean friend, who I communicate in English with, out for a beer with another English teacher. Me and the other English teacher decided to use German all night. I'm sure my Korean friend struggled because he knows absolutely no German. But he should've tried to get involved more. There's no way we were being rude.

I would just say 'Achtung Englischer Schweinhund!' or 'Vorsprung Durch Technik' every now and then and hope it fit in the context.


  • OnNut81
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #89 on: June 26, 2020, 11:17:57 am »
Have you ever invited the one Korean out to join the group of waygooks? Maybe his English one on one is alright but get them in a group of foreigners who are bouncing back and forth and trading jokes and insults and stuff and their English disappears. Are you paying attention to them all night? Are you making sure to include them in everything and explain things?

It's the same effing thing, only this time YOU are the Korean. YOU are the one that has to manage.
Apparently oglop and stoat are so inept that they can't handle the basic social situation of being around people who are bilingual and expect said people to make them the center of attention and cater everything towards them 24-7.

Yeah, of course if you invite someone out and they are unfamiliar with the group you are going to go the extra mile to try and ensure they are comfortable.  Only someone with zero social skills would do anything but.  Someone, for instance, who would take the time to try and come up with a useless and untested manual on how to interact with a group that is capable of communicating with you but have chosen not to.  It would take someone with that level of social ignorance to not be extra attentive to someone they invited along. 

I would like to see Martino use those effective communication tips in real life. Imagine not picking up on the "we don't want you around" vibe and hanging on all night?  That would be awkward.  Of course, Martin will be on to tell us about the diverse neighbourhood he grew up in and that he honed those skills on the streetz of life.  Whereas all the rest of us that grew up in White City, Western Country wouldn't have encountered his unique multi-cultural upbringing. 


  • Mr C
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #90 on: June 26, 2020, 11:28:51 am »
Yeah, of course if you invite someone out and they are unfamiliar with the group you are going to go the extra mile to try and ensure they are comfortable.  Only someone with zero social skills would do anything but.  Someone, for instance, who would take the time to try and come up with a useless and untested manual on how to interact with a group that is capable of communicating with you but have chosen not to.  It would take someone with that level of social ignorance to not be extra attentive to someone they invited along. 

I would like to see Martino use those effective communication tips in real life. Imagine not picking up on the "we don't want you around" vibe and hanging on all night?   

I mean, he's still posting here, isn't he?


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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #91 on: June 26, 2020, 11:29:29 am »
I mean, he's still posting here, isn't he?

Bazinga


  • Kyndo
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #92 on: June 26, 2020, 11:30:36 am »
I would just say 'Achtung Englischer Schweinhund!' or 'Vorsprung Durch Technik' every now and then and hope it fit in the context.
Lots of pithy 3 word phrases that could be thrown in with a group of Germans. For example, I personally am a fan of "Wahrheit oder pflicht." (popular in many drinking establishments).
... although, come to think of it, you'd probably want to stay away from "Arbeit macht frei."  :sad:


  • Liechtenstein
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #93 on: June 26, 2020, 11:39:25 am »
ok boomer

(i'm so sorry ronnie. i'm so, so sorry...  :cry:)

Let's get this straight. Being called a boomer is a compliment not an insult. Also, anyone in their 30's or 40's is not a boomer.


  • 745sticky
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #94 on: June 26, 2020, 11:42:35 am »
Let's get this straight. Being called a boomer is a compliment not an insult. Also, anyone in their 30's or 40's is not a boomer.


  • oglop
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #95 on: June 26, 2020, 11:43:02 am »
You know this is a regular things with immigrants when you get invited to hang out with all the "Insert Group Xs" and you're the only non-X there, right? No one's going to hold your hand and fawn over you. I know you believe you're entitled to that, probably because that's what you do in SE Asia or as "Center of Attention Oglop Teacher" but that's not what's done.
No one's refusing, but no one's going to hold your hand and spend the entire night treating you like some 6 year old who demands that everyone pay attention to them and talk about Ninja Turtles.
The tips are for you, because you're the one that is apparently utterly helpless at socializing in such a situation.
i thought we were talking about a group of south africans in korea, who are presumably here as english teachers.  not sure why you're making up these new scenarios.


  • Mr C
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #96 on: June 26, 2020, 11:47:49 am »
Let's get this straight. Being called a boomer is a compliment not an insult. Also, anyone in their 30's or 40's is not a boomer.

Indeed.  I'm on the young end of boomer.


  • OnNut81
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #97 on: June 26, 2020, 11:52:42 am »
I mean, he's still posting here, isn't he?

Good point.  And he's not even using any of his own tactics to be simpatico.  Hate to say it, but I think he was BSing us again. 


  • tylerthegloob
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #98 on: June 26, 2020, 11:54:25 am »
Let's get this straight. Being called a boomer is a compliment not an insult. Also, anyone in their 30's or 40's is not a boomer.

whatever old man! jk i'm down with the elderly. let's talk about disco
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  • 745sticky
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Re: Are Koreans rude and cold?
« Reply #99 on: June 26, 2020, 12:17:44 pm »
Wait, considering the usual content of his posts, how is it even possible to tell when Martino is BSing?