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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #400 on: October 22, 2020, 03:13:46 pm »
USA: 328 million.

SK: 51 million.

Koreans living in America: 2.5 million.

How many Americans in Korea?

16 million? No.

1.6 million? No.

160,000? No.

Meaning the ratio is skewed more than a hundred to one.

"In 2017, approximately 1 million Korean immigrants—the vast majority from South Korea, with just a tiny fraction from North Korea—resided in the United States"

"In 2017, the median income of Korean immigrant households was nearly $65,000"

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/korean-immigrants-united-states-2017


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #401 on: October 22, 2020, 03:17:03 pm »
LI, that was impressively bad logic


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #402 on: October 22, 2020, 03:22:25 pm »
LI, that was impressively bad logic

I like how he managed to fit the whole "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" shtick in there


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #403 on: October 22, 2020, 03:24:56 pm »


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #404 on: October 22, 2020, 03:28:42 pm »
The math is correct.

Proportionally WAY more Koreans are in America than Americans are in Korea.

Why don't the Koreans go back to their motherland? Because America's better for making money (for the hard working, intelligent, and ambitious that is). Also, less air pollution.


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #405 on: October 22, 2020, 03:30:41 pm »
2,546,982 Koreans in the USA.
http://www.mofa.go.kr/www/wpge/m_21509/contents.do

I believe you specifically said there were more Koreans "desperate to get into the United States of America" than vice versa. The link you provided includes Koreans who already reside in the U.S. and their descendants. Use actual immigration statistics.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2020, 03:32:19 pm by 745sticky »


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #406 on: October 22, 2020, 03:35:34 pm »
The burden of google searching is on the person claiming the other is wrong. And you’ve never proved me wrong on anything, and never will. For now, I’m busy and can’t be bothered. Take care. Good luck finding the stats to support your position. (You’ll need it!)


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #407 on: October 23, 2020, 07:36:57 am »
The burden of google searching is on the person claiming the other is wrong.

Uh, no. The burden of providing evidence for one's claim falls on the person making the claim.

Considering you "can't be bothered" (which could be easily shortened to "can't") I'll go ahead and assume you're talking out your ass.


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #408 on: October 23, 2020, 07:50:34 am »
yes... why don't those korean who were born in america and have lived there for their whole lives go back to their "motherland"? you're an absolute clown


Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #409 on: October 23, 2020, 01:43:04 pm »
you're an absolute clown

Biden started a meme popular with the young’uns!  :P


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #410 on: October 23, 2020, 11:15:22 pm »
yes... why don't those korean who were born in america and have lived there for their whole lives go back to their "motherland"? you're an absolute clown

Well, once Korea  starts showing a less hostile and xenophobic attitude towards expats, they should learn to live with their own medicine....what have KOreans done for the US, except be a drain on the treasury ?


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #411 on: November 02, 2020, 09:30:35 am »
Biden started a meme popular with the young’uns!  :P

I can't imagine Biden being popular with anyone, given how few show up to his fake car rallies. 


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #412 on: November 03, 2020, 01:20:06 pm »
For Baemin riders, who are full-time delivery workers, the average monthly wage was 4.2 million won
https://www.google.com/amp/m.koreaherald.com/amp/view.php%3fud=20200910000730

Well it seems that the delivery drivers in Korea have a hell of a life with many dying of overwork. TEFL has a way lot to fall to be as bad as this.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54775719


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #413 on: November 03, 2020, 08:43:03 pm »
From the link you posted, they'd be at 6 million a month, assuming a five day work week.

Why are they working themselves to death for an above average wage?

Heavy debts to pay and / or a family to support (a family in which the wife doesn't work)?

I do feel bad for them; that is super sad.

The link I posted said:

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Baemin connectors usually work four hours a day, three days a week, making an average of 1.6 million won a month.

So 24 hours a week would be 3.2 million a month?

Yes, TEFLs have it better, but the gap is closing. Wages for Koreans have been going up at all levels, professional and beginner, skill and unskilled. But wages for native English teachers have not. Expect things to continue to get slightly worse in the English teaching industry with each passing year. The unfortunate part is is that as time goes by, those who spent time teaching English abroad will have fewer options to do anything else as a decent paying career the longer they stay abroad. They're painting themself into a corner. Looks deteriorate with age. So does fluid intelligence. So does physical strength. So does reaction time. So does the immune system and the ability to stay healthy. The body can become injured more easily with a slower recovery time. Energy and motivation diminishes. Which is why age discrimination in the hiring process is real. The way to overcome this is with the accumulation of in demand transferable hard skills. Something that will make money. Something that makes you not easily replaceable. Specialized expertise. There's already an over saturation of MATESOL, CELTAs, and other certificates. Spending time and money on those might not lead to a university job. Probably won't in fact. You weren't around when it was easy to get a university job and thus don't have the requisite university teaching experience to be hired at one.