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  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5529

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #380 on: October 21, 2020, 09:44:26 am »
Yikes! 2.1 and no plane ticket to Korea from Poly? Used to be in country applicants had a bit of an advantage because the hagwon wouldn’t have to pay for airfare ... but since they don’t anyways these days, that leverage is gone. T___T

Please tell me no on e will accept that.  Time to find these foreigners accepting the low offers and beat the crap out of them.  Kind of like how a union put pressure on the workers back in the day.  I'm kidding, but wonder if it may come to that.  Hopefully, the place gets shunned. 
745sticky, Augustiner, Bakeacake, D.L.Orean, Lazio, Mithras, Renma, Rye are still blocked and I can't see them.


  • 745sticky
  • The Legend

    • 2252

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #381 on: October 21, 2020, 10:00:35 am »
Please tell me no on e will accept that.  Time to find these foreigners accepting the low offers and beat the crap out of them.  Kind of like how a union put pressure on the workers back in the day.  I'm kidding, but wonder if it may come to that.  Hopefully, the place gets shunned.

There are probably multiple people vying for it.


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5529

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #382 on: October 21, 2020, 12:50:00 pm »
There are probably multiple people vying for it.

Hard to believe there are folks that dumb.  Go around the world to work for minimum wage. 
745sticky, Augustiner, Bakeacake, D.L.Orean, Lazio, Mithras, Renma, Rye are still blocked and I can't see them.


  • 745sticky
  • The Legend

    • 2252

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #383 on: October 21, 2020, 02:19:50 pm »
Hard to believe there are folks that dumb.  Go around the world to work for minimum wage.

Better than not working at home and living out of mommy's basement. What really gets me about this one isn't even the pay, its the no airfare.
Although honestly I'd rather stick with the basement than work for a hagwon at that salary.


  • Getsome
  • Adventurer

    • 42

    • October 09, 2020, 11:41:58 pm
    • UK
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #384 on: October 22, 2020, 12:49:22 am »
Wow...must have a teaching license (or kindi experience) for a whopping 2.2......terrible. 


https://www.worknplay.co.kr/Work/Detail/Job/215529


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5529

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #385 on: October 22, 2020, 10:29:20 am »
Better than not working at home and living out of mommy's basement. What really gets me about this one isn't even the pay, its the no airfare.
Although honestly I'd rather stick with the basement than work for a hagwon at that salary.

Corona unemployment is temporary.  In the long run, living at home and making slightly above minimum wage probably would allow for a faster repayment of student loans now.  Of course it's always the cost of living that is factored in.  1800 US dollars a month starting in Korea versus Vietnam even with some rent paid, your money goes further.  But with some experience and TESOL, you can get into 2000 and 2200 and up range.  Very cheap living cost means more savings and paying off loan faster.  2,1 is not such a great deal anymore.  I get temporary corona imposed unemployment.  But unemployment is falling fast.  By next year back to normal.  If I lived in some of the more booming areas of the US, I would be working there and making more money if I could live at home for a while.  Korea is not worth it at 2.1.  Maybe if you tell yourself do a year and hop to another country perhaps.  But slightly above minimum wage is not worth it.  I'd say a lot of ignorant people who didn't do their research. 
745sticky, Augustiner, Bakeacake, D.L.Orean, Lazio, Mithras, Renma, Rye are still blocked and I can't see them.


  • 745sticky
  • The Legend

    • 2252

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #386 on: October 22, 2020, 10:33:30 am »
Corona unemployment is temporary.  In the long run, living at home and making slightly above minimum wage probably would allow for a faster repayment of student loans now.  Of course it's always the cost of living that is factored in.  1800 US dollars a month starting in Korea versus Vietnam even with some rent paid, your money goes further.  But with some experience and TESOL, you can get into 2000 and 2200 and up range.  Very cheap living cost means more savings and paying off loan faster.  2,1 is not such a great deal anymore.  I get temporary corona imposed unemployment.  But unemployment is falling fast.  By next year back to normal.  If I lived in some of the more booming areas of the US, I would be working there and making more money if I could live at home for a while.  Korea is not worth it at 2.1.  Maybe if you tell yourself do a year and hop to another country perhaps.  But slightly above minimum wage is not worth it.  I'd say a lot of ignorant people who didn't do their research.

I mean wages in the US aren't exactly great themselves


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #387 on: October 22, 2020, 12:29:10 pm »
People are desperate to get into the United States but wages aren't that great? (More people tryin' to get in than get out.)


  • yolopopo
  • Adventurer

    • 31

    • June 01, 2018, 10:25:05 am
    • South Korea
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #388 on: October 22, 2020, 01:07:09 pm »
when I worked in London (admittedly 9 years ago now), the entry level (straight out of uni) position at my company was 17,000 pounds....that person, for an absolute s**thole flat/apartment would be paying 4-5k a year. Factor in another 1-1.2k a year for travel (depending on the zone they lived in, and then they 'just' had to worry about utility bills and eating.

Thus, I completely understand why someone would do a 9-6 in Korea in a franchise school for a year where the job is, let's be fair; to be on time, pick up the book, walk into class, and talk.  If you can also 'nod and smile' whenever your director says something then you are winning.

stick 500,000 away a month, then add it to your last month's pay and severance and you come out with...what...$10,000 (more if you are fortunate to be able to claim your pension back) after a year of  finger painting, and chatting about your favourite Pokemon.

It's not rocket science, and it's a hell of a lot better than working a factory which is soul destroying work (having had experience doing it).

do your year whilst applying for jobs back home...or keep going. If you do, then be wise enough in not relying on Dave's for your next position.



  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #389 on: October 22, 2020, 01:21:17 pm »
Why would uni grads be doing unskilled factory work? Graduated at the bottom of their class with the lowest grades and least marketable majors?


  • yolopopo
  • Adventurer

    • 31

    • June 01, 2018, 10:25:05 am
    • South Korea
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #390 on: October 22, 2020, 02:14:19 pm »
It seems you've answered your own question, and it sounds like the person you describe may possibly suit that type of work.
















  • 745sticky
  • The Legend

    • 2252

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #391 on: October 22, 2020, 02:22:17 pm »
People are desperate to get into the United States but wages aren't that great? (More people tryin' to get in than get out.)

Not great compared to Korea.

I guess they're pretty great compared to South America, but that's a pretty low bar.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #392 on: October 22, 2020, 02:28:46 pm »
Loads of Koreans have moved to and want to move to United States (after hearing from their high earning relatives who made the leap). It’s a sizable percentage of the population. But the other way around, Americans going to Korea, is a tiny fraction.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #393 on: October 22, 2020, 02:31:34 pm »
Koreans make tons of money in the United States. Almost none are poor. A LOT are doing six figures. Why? Because they work hard.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #394 on: October 22, 2020, 02:34:19 pm »
More Koreans desperate to get into the United States than Americans desperate to get into Korea, especially if you look at it as a percentage of the population.


  • 745sticky
  • The Legend

    • 2252

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #395 on: October 22, 2020, 02:39:00 pm »
I'd love to see some actual stats on like, everything you just said, if possible.


  • D.L.Orean
  • Expert Waygook

    • 993

    • February 25, 2020, 09:34:41 am
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #396 on: October 22, 2020, 03:01:28 pm »
I'd love to see some actual stats on like, everything you just said, if possible.

It just makes sense. Logically. Don't let facts get in the way of how it feels. Ask yourself if anything he wrote doesn't make logical sense. Because that's all I need.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #397 on: October 22, 2020, 03:03:28 pm »
USA: 328 million.

SK: 51 million.

Koreans living in America: 2.5 million.

How many Americans in Korea?

16 million? No.

1.6 million? No.

160,000? No.

Meaning the ratio is skewed more than a hundred to one.


  • 745sticky
  • The Legend

    • 2252

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #398 on: October 22, 2020, 03:10:17 pm »
It just makes sense. Logically. Don't let facts get in the way of how it feels. Ask yourself if anything he wrote doesn't make logical sense. Because that's all I need.

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not. Poe's law in action I guess


  • D.L.Orean
  • Expert Waygook

    • 993

    • February 25, 2020, 09:34:41 am
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #399 on: October 22, 2020, 03:13:46 pm »
USA: 328 million.

SK: 51 million.

Koreans living in America: 2.5 million.

How many Americans in Korea?

16 million? No.

1.6 million? No.

160,000? No.

Meaning the ratio is skewed more than a hundred to one.

"In 2017, approximately 1 million Korean immigrants—the vast majority from South Korea, with just a tiny fraction from North Korea—resided in the United States"

"In 2017, the median income of Korean immigrant households was nearly $65,000"

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/korean-immigrants-united-states-2017