It is 2003, again!

I know/knew two, but one wasn't killed in the UK.

Schools have one policeman per school. (At least some do.)

The USA has a homicide rate below the world average (and is dropping).

Murders are statistically rare.

As an American, do you know anyone who was murdered? I don’t. Do you know anyone who knows anyone who was murdered? I don’t.

Do you know anyone who knows someone who was killed on 9/11? I do. Several. (So I guess that is murdered.) But even events like these are uncommon. Extremely unlikely to happen (thanks to the fight against terrorism). Most people aren’t murderers. Most people aren’t terrorists. And if they are, technology (which is getting better and better each year) can catch them quickly.

Last year, the USA averaged over 1 mass shooting per day.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mass-shootings-2019-more-than-days-365/ <- this article is missing 17 mass shootings though, the total number ended up being 434, but it only states 417, which resulted in an average of 1.19 mass shooting per day)

That’s defining a mass shooting as more than one person being shot. Usually they survive. I’ve personally never met someone who was shot. America’s a huge country. Big population. Meaning being shot is statistically unlikely. (But the poorer the neighborhood the more likely.)

A rising tide lifts all boats. To say it’s only the upper one percent who benefit is hyperbole.

Nobody said that.

That’s defining a mass shooting as more than one person being shot. Usually they survive. I’ve personally never met someone who was shot. America’s a huge country. Big population. Meaning being shot is statistically unlikely. (But the poorer the neighborhood the more likely.)

My uncle who live in Texas witnessed a shooting.
His neighbour went away on vacation, some dude broke in, and the neighbour on the other side called the cops and brought a gun, and said that he was going to shoot the intruder. The cops said he can't shoot them unless they enter his property. The thief, while running away with stuff, decided to cut through that guy's lawn, so the dude shot him. Unsure if he died or not though.
(he was on the phone with the police).

My uncle who live in Texas witnessed a shooting.
His neighbour went away on vacation, some dude broke in, and the neighbour on the other side called the cops and brought a gun, and said that he was going to shoot the intruder. The cops said he can't shoot them unless they enter his property. The thief, while running away with stuff, decided to cut through that guy's lawn, so the dude shot him. Unsure if he died or not though.
(he was on the phone with the police).

Imagine relishing the thought of shooting someone. 

If I was armed and there was a guy in my house, I'd go with the gun up to the point where my family would be behind me. And I'd wait. I have no qualms protecting my family, but to run outside and wait, "Can I shoot him yet? Well, can I?" The house is empty, Jesus Christ. It's an empty house that isn't yours.

I'm a tough on crime kind of guy, but this desire to shoot someone who isn't a threat to you. Ugh

Imagine relishing the thought of shooting someone. 

If I was armed and there was a guy in my house, I'd go with the gun up to the point where my family would be behind me. And I'd wait. I have no qualms protecting my family, but to run outside and wait, "Can I shoot him yet? Well, can I?" The house is empty, Jesus Christ. It's an empty house that isn't yours.

I'm a tough on crime kind of guy, but this desire to shoot someone who isn't a threat to you. Ugh

To be fair, I visited that uncle back in winter this year, just before the corona virus, and the neighbours in that area are all pretty close knit.
I think it's not that he wanted to shoot the guy, and relish in it, but more protecting his friend's property while they weren't there to do it themselves.
The neighbours came over to have a dinner with my uncle and his family while I was there, we went and done stuff together with them too.

But also, that's America for you. Gun are so easy to get a hold of there and humans suck. :p

To be fair, I visited that uncle back in winter this year, just before the corona virus, and the neighbours in that area are all pretty close knit.
I think it's not that he wanted to shoot the guy, and relish in it, but more protecting his friend's property while they weren't there to do it themselves.
The neighbours came over to have a dinner with my uncle and his family while I was there, we went and done stuff together with them too.

But also, that's America for you. Gun are so easy to get a hold of there and humans suck. :p

Yeah, there is law and order here kinda deal. Enforcing the law is not the same as WANTING to shoot/kill someone.

Same thing applies, the guy doesn't break in and steal stuff, he doesn't get shot.

Nobody said that.

yeah he keeps doing this

all i was arguing about was when he keeps referring to "the west" as if the whole of "the west" is america. not sure why he thinks everyone is trash talking america or why he thinks everyone is saying their own countries are superior..? it's like we are having two different conversations

Teacher unions in the West are very powerful.

Meaning teachers will continue to retire at age 52, receiving $50k+ a year until the day they die.

That’s well over a million dollars.

The house is empty. The neighbours are close-knit apparently, so the shooter would have known that.

What could be in that house that is so valuable, not even to yourself, but to YOUR NEIGHBOUR, that you leave your own house and risk your own safety to protect it?

Again, some guy crawling in your window? Shoot away, no one is coming into my house. But the neighbour's EMPTY house?

I can't prove it, but it screams "Oh yeah, a chance to be a hero!" Meanwhile the guy will now and forever be "A human that has shot another human being," and maybe that doesn't bother him, who knows? But for what? Some necklaces and a TV?

Sounds like a plan.  If I live in the US, may be a place to check out.  (I have US relatives that can get me in if need be.  I'm Canadian, but spent much time in some parts of the US.  So, I know US very well.)   I wasn't sure which would be best to live?  Carolinas, Texas, or some other place.  Balanced by decent amount of jobs with affordable rents and housing.  Maybe southern cities like Nashville or elsewhere?

You think having American relatives will help you get into the US to live and work?  If you meant that seriously you need to rethink your plan.  I graduated high school in the states, have a social security # and a father who has been a naturalized US citizen living in the states for over 20 years.  Means absolutely squat to advancing my entry to live and work in the states if that is what I wanted to do.  I'm an adult.  Do you think the US government looks for reference letters from Americans when considering an application? 

I'm not sure I've ever seen Canadian media pointing out that the US is terrible. If it happens, it's a pretty rare thing.
I mean, we often point out how awesome Canada is to one another, but rarely out and out talk smack about our neighbour to the south. That wouldn't be nice.

That was tongue in cheek, right?  Hang out with a group of Canadians here and throw one American into the mix and there is at least going to be one hoser who's going to turn it into a sh*t on America confab, guaranteed.  Crapping on America is a pastime for a certain demographic of Canadian.   

i went to some kind of sandwich shop or something (i forget) in toronto across from the event i was working and the dude working there started talking to me about gun violence in chicago... i was like dude im not from chicago_{and then everyone clapped} but also like even if it was somehow relevant why would he bring it up while trying to sell me a grilled cheese? really not sure why he shoehorned that into our convo

i went to some kind of sandwich shop or something (i forget) in toronto across from the event i was working and the dude working there started talking to me about gun violence in chicago... i was like dude im not from chicago_{and then everyone clapped} but also like even if it was somehow relevant why would he bring it up while trying to sell me a grilled cheese? really not sure why he shoehorned that into our convo

There's a certain type of Canadian that can only up their own country by talking about how it's not like (read: better than) the US. Having pride in your country is fine but it shouldn't be solely expressed by talking about another different country lol

but chicagos like pretty scary, eh? you ever hold a gun?

There's a certain type of Canadian that can only up their own country by talking about how it's not like (read: better than) the US. Having pride in your country is fine but it shouldn't be solely expressed by talking about another different country lol

Yeah, Canadian inferiority complex is real. Every other developed Euro country has socialised medicine but we act like we invented it. "Did you know Jim Carrey is Canadian??" Like, does it matter? He's funny and he had a string of hits in the 90s, that's it. haha

I said a while ago on here that I was glad I wasn't American. I still feel that way, it doesn't mean I don't love my American friends or that I hate the place. I imagine a lot of them are glad they're not Canadian, too, haha.

That was tongue in cheek, right? 

Maybe. 

Honestly, I'm the only person in my area that's lived in Canada. Most everybody else seems to be either Australian or British with a few Afrikaaners and the odd American.
Tragic that I'll never get to experience one of these dump-on-Yanks-fests!


... I mean odd as in "not many", not as in "strange", of course.

... I mean odd as in "not many", not as in "strange", of course.

Pourquoi nos les 둘개?

And in the exhibition above, we have a Canadian frenchifying Spanish. Chilling. 

wtf is 둘개