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  • The Legend

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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #180 on: July 30, 2020, 03:30:55 pm »
Sounds like a plan.  If I live in the US, may be a place to check out.  (I have US relatives that can get me in if need be.  I'm Canadian, but spent much time in some parts of the US.  So, I know US very well.)   I wasn't sure which would be best to live?  Carolinas, Texas, or some other place.  Balanced by decent amount of jobs with affordable rents and housing.  Maybe southern cities like Nashville or elsewhere?

Finding a city in the US really is a balancing act. Rent in bigger cities is insane but you have access to a lot more stuff, whereas I knew a guy that lived a few miles outside the small city where I went to college in IL who rented a whole house for 200 a month. Overall I feel like smaller cities are definitely the places to look, preferably older ones with a nice "historic" downtown, although Covid probably delivered a death blow to most of those.


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  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #181 on: July 30, 2020, 04:44:17 pm »
The places with higher rent prices have higher salaries. Much higher. (If you have an in demand job skill.)


Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #182 on: July 30, 2020, 08:51:37 pm »
The difference is the massive amounts of money paid into teacher pensions in the West.

There is something known as the “pensions time bomb” which basically means because of demographics there will be too many old people and retirement age will be pushed up and up.

As teflers we can buy property outright in our home countries and get agents to look after things and give ourselves a source of rental income.


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #183 on: July 31, 2020, 01:27:56 am »
Teacher unions in the West are very powerful.

Meaning teachers will continue to retire at age 52, receiving $50k+ a year until the day they die.

That’s well over a million dollars.


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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #184 on: July 31, 2020, 06:16:23 am »
Teacher unions in the West are very powerful.

Meaning teachers will continue to retire at age 52, receiving $50k+ a year until the day they die.

That’s well over a million dollars.
When you say "the West", you mean the USA


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #185 on: July 31, 2020, 06:56:26 am »
Certain states in the USA


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #186 on: July 31, 2020, 07:43:59 am »
If someone is willing and able to move from the USA to South Korea surely a move from one state to another would be doable.


  • oglop
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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #187 on: July 31, 2020, 07:50:38 am »
If someone is willing and able to move from the USA to South Korea surely a move from one state to another would be doable.
i think you missed our points


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #188 on: July 31, 2020, 07:58:25 am »
Did I? We were talking about America then three Brits popped in with whataboutisms / semantic nitpicking.

Brits: “America is terrible. British media told me so.”
Canadians: “The US is terrible. Canadian media told me so.”


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #189 on: July 31, 2020, 08:05:12 am »
I'm not sure I've ever seen Canadian media pointing out that the US is terrible. If it happens, it's a pretty rare thing.
I mean, we often point out how awesome Canada is to one another, but rarely out and out talk smack about our neighbour to the south. That wouldn't be nice.


  • oglop
  • The Legend

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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #190 on: July 31, 2020, 08:19:52 am »
Did I? We were talking about America then three Brits popped in with whataboutisms / semantic nitpicking.

Brits: “America is terrible. British media told me so.”
Canadians: “The US is terrible. Canadian media told me so.”
you keep referring to "the west" when you mean certain places within the USA. also, who's saying the US is terrible here?


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #191 on: July 31, 2020, 08:29:41 am »
Brits, Canadians, and Saffers seem to be experts on all things wrong with the United States, more so than problems in their own countries. Seem to be speaking on that more without having a deep, accurate, or nuanced enough understanding. (Or maybe that’s just my perception. And it’s some, not all.) I mean, how many Americans tell Brits, Canadians, or Saffers their country sucks. They don’t speak on it at all for the most part. Which doesn’t mean people of those nationalities have superior countries to the US though they may interpret that as this. I see so many threads started by non-Americans ragging on Americans but never the other way around. (As a new thread topic I mean. Yes, I respond.) Let’s just say going out of one’s way to insult another nationality is in poor taste. And that includes throwing shade at Americans. And ... what I wrote above was probably not so good. I’m gonna step away from posting for a bit.


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #192 on: July 31, 2020, 08:33:58 am »
you keep referring to "the west" when you mean certain places within the USA.

Just certain places? No, the USA overall as a whole (though there are rare exceptions I guess).

American teachers get a benefit package that is 100.6% of their salary.

Meaning whatever the wage is, double it to get the total remuneration.

But, yeah, that’s average. So some less some more. But it’s a hell of a lot of money.


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #193 on: July 31, 2020, 08:37:33 am »
What are teacher pensions in the West for each country? Canadians I know get A LOT. Americans I know get a lot. I don’t personally know teachers from the UK, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, etc., but I’d imagine it’d be a lot. Pretty substantial. Imagine getting money year after years for 30+ years straight.


Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #194 on: July 31, 2020, 08:51:26 am »
yeah dude and teachers in america might have to get to carry guns soon, too!


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #195 on: July 31, 2020, 09:06:08 am »
Schools have one policeman per school. (At least some do.)

The USA has a homicide rate below the world average (and is dropping).

Murders are statistically rare.

As an American, do you know anyone who was murdered? I don’t. Do you know anyone who knows anyone who was murdered? I don’t.

Do you know anyone who knows someone who was killed on 9/11? I do. Several. (So I guess that is murdered.) But even events like these are uncommon. Extremely unlikely to happen (thanks to the fight against terrorism). Most people aren’t murderers. Most people aren’t terrorists. And if they are, technology (which is getting better and better each year) can catch them quickly.


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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #196 on: July 31, 2020, 09:21:40 am »
The places with higher rent prices have higher salaries. Much higher. (If you have an in demand job skill.)

In all but 1% of cases (see what I did there?) the salary increase does not outpace the absurd cost of living.


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #197 on: July 31, 2020, 09:32:59 am »
Americans are saving more money. Bankruptcy filings are going down. Inflation is low. Wages are going up.


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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #198 on: July 31, 2020, 09:33:56 am »
A rising tide lifts all boats. To say it’s only the upper one percent who benefit is hyperbole.


Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #199 on: July 31, 2020, 09:35:06 am »
As an American, do you know anyone who was murdered?

i do