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  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • July 05, 2017, 10:54:06 am
    • Mouseville
It is 2003, again!
« on: May 19, 2020, 04:34:19 pm »
http://koreabridge.net/jobs/busan-full-time-one-qualified-native-teacher-avalonsaha

1.8-2.2 a month

Seriously....folks may as well go to Thailand.


Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2020, 05:32:03 pm »
I found this gem

https://seoul.craigslist.org/edu/7126123681.html

6 day work week. hagwon owners are paying bottom of the barrel when they are making insane profits but want to justify even lower wages when the economy is worse.


  • oglop
  • The Legend

    • 4335

    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2020, 06:17:00 pm »
I found this gem

https://seoul.craigslist.org/edu/7126123681.html

6 day work week. hagwon owners are paying bottom of the barrel when they are making insane profits but want to justify even lower wages when the economy is worse.
this is genuinely awful. anyone who takes this job is an absolute idiot. although the fact they have the audacity to advertise it makes me think someone will...


  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • July 05, 2017, 10:54:06 am
    • Mouseville
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2020, 06:46:37 pm »
A representive for YBM/ECC is posting an offer on Facebook, starting at 2.0.....FFS.


This has become more and more common.



  • theman3285
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • June 16, 2017, 09:01:06 am
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2020, 07:09:02 pm »
1.8-2.2 a month
Good lord. I thought you were exaggerating, until I opened the link. Have they no shame?


  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • July 05, 2017, 10:54:06 am
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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2020, 07:25:11 pm »
Good lord. I thought you were exaggerating, until I opened the link. Have they no shame?

..and to think, that salary listed is BEFORE deductions. 

1.8...after legal deductions and utilities, is more like 1.5 million a month.  When that is converted to $US, it comes to $1224...for a 40 hour work week.

Why would folks think Korea is worth that, is beyond me.  There must be some sort of mental retardation. 


Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2020, 11:00:12 pm »
and that 1.5 is without housing. they only provide a " small housing allowance " so that 1.5 would need to make up the difference in housing. so shoe box sized house and making just over 15 grand a year. all for a bachelor's degree holder....


  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • July 05, 2017, 10:54:06 am
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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2020, 11:43:18 pm »
and that 1.5 is without housing. they only provide a " small housing allowance " so that 1.5 would need to make up the difference in housing. so shoe box sized house and making just over 15 grand a year. all for a bachelor's degree holder....

This is just one example of how thankful I am, to not be going back to Korea (at least for now). 

It has just turned into a spilt bag of phuck.....shouldn't the apologists be out and about by now?


  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2020, 11:58:04 pm »
...but wait, there's more!

http://koreabridge.net/jobs/2020-june-position-native-teacher-ft-and-pt-positions-aela

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<<< Part Time Position >>>

- Students: Kinder to Elementary

- Hours: 1:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.

- Pay

: 1.3 million per month for no experience

: 1.5 million won +@ per month for experienced or English Teaching Degree holders

- Other:

1. Need to be able to sign up a contract for more than 6 months

2. No Housing

3. No Paid Vacation

Wow...I used to work 2:30-6:30, M-F for 2.1 (housing, pension, insurance, vacation,...all included)


  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2020, 12:07:07 am »
..taken from a Facebook group focused on teaching jobs.

Quote
YBM Adult Academies Division has upcoming instructor positions for native (English speakers) starting August 2020
Location Near Gangnam Station, Seoul
Job type Guaranteed 120 hours per month, teaching adults
Training Applicants must be available for training during the last week of July
Salary 2.0-2.4 million Won, based on relevant experience and education.
Hours Morning shifts, some additional evening shifts and/or Saturdays
Housing Key Money plus monthly allowance
Requirements: You must hold a passport from one of the following countries: USA, UK, Canada, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa.
Please email your resume, cover letter, and copy of your passport information page to me at ybmkndaeroas@gmail.com

Phucking Gangnam station....starting off at 2.0

No listed schedule, nothing to indicate the actual number of classes. Though, it seems there will be a split shift AND work on weekends.  LOVELY. 

Americans can get home and apply fro the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance, collect that relief aid weekly, in addition to the added $600 weekly benefit, under the CARES Act. 

..no sense in taking that nonese.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2020, 01:22:05 pm by NorthStar »


  • oglop
  • The Legend

    • 4335

    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2020, 07:58:44 am »
i've worked with the YBM adult division a lot and have had a good time. but that's for part-time F-visa jobs. their E2 visa jobs and F visa jobs seem like completely different worlds


  • theman3285
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • June 16, 2017, 09:01:06 am
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2020, 08:11:21 am »
I've never seen hagwon offers this dismal before. Can we deduce it's because the virus has crippled their income? Or are they just wising up to the fact that young graduates are so miserable in their own countries that they'll take pretty much anything?


  • oglop
  • The Legend

    • 4335

    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2020, 08:12:58 am »
I've never seen hagwon offers this dismal before. Can we deduce it's because the virus has crippled their income? Or are they just wising up to the fact that young graduates are so miserable in their own countries that they'll take pretty much anything?
maybe just trying their luck. hopefully nobody will actually take it, or they'll start offering wages like this all of the time...


  • CypherSoul
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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2020, 08:18:35 am »
I've never seen hagwon offers this dismal before. Can we deduce it's because the virus has crippled their income? Or are they just wising up to the fact that young graduates are so miserable in their own countries that they'll take pretty much anything?

A lot of foreigners have lost their jobs at academies because of the virus, people are very desperate right now so I wouldn't be surprised if they are the ones who take this job.


Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2020, 05:11:52 pm »
This is terrible! I was on 1.7 in 1999 and by early 2001 my boss had increased my pay to 2.0  month.  There was no pension to pay into and only private health insurance (about 250,000 a year, which he paid for). However, I did top-out at 2.4 in 2004.
I don't know how non frugal people could live any sort of life or have a bit of fun on the salaries posted above.


  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • July 05, 2017, 10:54:06 am
    • Mouseville


  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1364

    • July 05, 2017, 10:54:06 am
    • Mouseville
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2020, 06:58:45 am »
8,60 euros per hour. ;D

Is that before or after deductions?

Before deductions is about, or just under, $10 an hour.  Were I live, minimum wage is $12 an hour. 

AFTER deductions, let's say 2.2....(including housing costs)....would be about 1.8 (utilities, maintt. fee)...that comes to $1,466 a month...just a bit over $9 an hour.

I sincerely hope folks are paying attention  to the exchange rate..at least, Americans.  For the neighbors to the north, the exchange rate is in their favor. 


  • Cohort 2019
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Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2020, 07:46:13 am »
Did you calculate with 45 hours per week?
incumbo studiis


  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • July 05, 2017, 10:54:06 am
    • Mouseville
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2020, 07:51:20 am »
Did you calculate with 45 hours per week?

No, I did not.  But, that was due to the hopes of having a one-hour lunch break.


  • NorthStar
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1364

    • July 05, 2017, 10:54:06 am
    • Mouseville
Re: It is 2003, again!
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2020, 09:16:14 am »
https://seoul.craigslist.org/edu/d/full-time-english-teacher-gwang-myeong/7126123681.html

So...40 hour, six -day working week. 

Visa sponsorship with NO housing.....for 2.7.????????