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  • KimDuHan
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1324

    • January 15, 2015, 11:48:59 am
    • Seoul
Fixed it for you.


But did they say OP cant wear a mask?

Still irrelevant, you can work with a mask.

OP wants to stay at home and collect payments.


  • Cohort 2019
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    • August 17, 2019, 08:09:23 pm
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I don't want to find out what happens in class first hand, let other countries reopen and analyse their covid results first before rushing into reopening.
Luckily Korea's been so kind to take that 2- month-lead.
incumbo studiis


Been awhile since I checked this forum.

It's a legit hypothetical scenario if you think about it.

Again, this has nothing to do with wanting to stay at home and get paid.  I've said from day one I want to be in school
teaching and continuing the school life / annual events / plans.  Instead it's all been scrapped over this paranoia and over reaction
to covid19 fears.

I'm actually saying that I don't even want to get paid.  I just want to stay at home if we aren't going to do anything meaningful at school
and "waste" time.   I understand we can all use that time wisely do lesson prep and work on other useful things, but whatever it is we are doing
in empty schools for the past 3 months are things we could easily be doing at home.   

The whole premise of the argument is that we are dragged out here to school yet schools are "closed" because it's too dangerous that you might spread the virus.   Duh.  If it's too dangerous that you had to close schools for fear of spreading the virus, then why are we here everyday? Clearly
it's not dangerous.

I've been saying it's actually safer here than it is going outside.  They have it all backwards.  Allowing people to go outside hanging around stores, cities, shops, restaurants, you name it, but it's too dangerous to go to school?   So the latest cases of 2 students being tested positive for the virus in Incheon HS was traced to the students being at a coin game room in the city and guess who was at that coin game room?  Someone who was also at the itaewon night clubs during the outbreak.   

See my point?  The virus is not caught in school.  Schools aren't the danger.  It's allowing people to go to these public places that are still open which was the problem in the first place.  If people just go from home to school and follow the quarantine guidelines, schools would just be part of the quarantine zones.

The problem is when everything else is allowed to be open but schools remained closed.    If they had just shut down night clubs and pc bangs and gaming rooms and even put laws barring students from going outside to these places, then you wouldn't be getting sick.   Then they wouldn't be bringing any virus to school. 

That's why I am saying hypothetically, if school resumes and now all these people are back in school, how is it not reasonable to argue that we are now putting our lives at risk exposing ourselves to potential carriers? 

So in summary if you still don't get it, here it is in bullet point:

1) Schools are closed because it's dangerous and people could die of the virus (esp. parents fears yet they let their kids go outside to gaming rooms where they contracted the virus)
2) Schools are open  but the % risk is still the same as it was 2 or 3 months ago, but now they want you to go school and if I say it's too dangerous
    and risking my life, I'm not allowed to say that? Statistically it's not anymore dangerous or anymore safe now than it was 2 months ago.   If you look at % wise, it's literally no difference. 

Like I said, the moment there's a one case reported somewhere in this country at a school, they will shut down all the schools again and repeat this whole delay process until we basically just call it a year which is what I said in February.   If you're that scared because there were 100 cases in the country then you'll never be safe so long as there is even 1 case in the country, I guess you should close down schools because of that.


BTW, the title is meant to be sarcastic because 99.99% of all of you don't actually believe your life is in danger even though you've been going out to school for the last 3 months and when school resumes and students are back, nobody is clearly scared of dying of covid19. 

 
« Last Edit: May 21, 2020, 01:29:18 pm by fruitloops »


  • Cohort 2019
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    • August 17, 2019, 08:09:23 pm
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I fully agree with you, I honestly believe that each one of us will have long-lasting damage in our lungs from it. I used to exercise regularly and eat organic veg and consider myself 'healthy' but the slight pain has not subsided yet and going uphill has become a battle of willpower ever since I had that week of diarrhoea.

incumbo studiis


How the heck did anything get done for the first 100,000 years of human existence while we were constantly beset by plagues?


  • Cohort 2019
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    • August 17, 2019, 08:09:23 pm
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 ;D

I'm pretty sure that our covid-19 tribe would have been mauled alive by sabletooth tigers trying to run uphill to safety. My lungs still burn despite living near the coast in almost pristine ocean air.
incumbo studiis


  • VanIslander
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    • June 02, 2011, 10:12:19 am
    • Seogwipo, Jeju Island
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If there is a gun to your head and you are obese or have another illness than I feel for you man.

To be FORCED to work in such conditions! If only you could fly back to your home country or find another way...

Wow. Your headline isn't overblown then. I get you man... fruitloops.

Otherwise, ... nah.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2020, 05:00:08 am by VanIslander »


..no surprise, considering the name.
1) What does that mean?
2) You know KimDuHan is a waygook troll acct, right?


  • KimDuHan
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1324

    • January 15, 2015, 11:48:59 am
    • Seoul
1) What does that mean?
2) You know KimDuHan is a waygook troll acct, right?

Why am I a troll account because I disagree with you?

Who has more than one account Mr. D? IP address check


Your chance of being dead from COVID -19 is as low as around 6%. The majority of people who were diagnosed with
COVID-19 have recovered, without any medicine and with no existence of a vaccine to target COVID-19.

The best thing you can do is get a mask and wear it in your school. Wash your hands, eat healthy food, and get
some exercise.


Your chance of being dead from COVID -19 is as low as around 6%. The majority of people who were diagnosed with
COVID-19 have recovered, without any medicine and with no existence of a vaccine to target COVID-19.

The best thing you can do is get a mask and wear it in your school. Wash your hands, eat healthy food, and get
some exercise.

Where are you getting that number from? 6% is high.


  • KimDuHan
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1324

    • January 15, 2015, 11:48:59 am
    • Seoul
Your chance of being dead from COVID -19 is as low as around 6%. The majority of people who were diagnosed with
COVID-19 have recovered, without any medicine and with no existence of a vaccine to target COVID-19.

The best thing you can do is get a mask and wear it in your school. Wash your hands, eat healthy food, and get
some exercise.

more like 0.6%!

Covid is just a factor and not the cause of most deaths.



  • kyndo
  • Moderator LVL 1

    • 5809

    • March 03, 2011, 09:45:24 am
    • Gyeongsangbuk-do
Just like nobody ever dies of AIDS, right?


And the hits just keep on coming.

Like I said way back in February, the entire year is a wash...it's lost.  First the itaewon outbreak that spread to Incheon and Gangwando, and now this new cluster from a logistics company further closing down schools again in Seoul indefinitely.

As I said, you don't catch the virus from school.  One elementary school student was tested positive but they got it from one of their parents who worked at that logistics company.   You'd be able to trace and track where the virus is spreading and who has BEFORE school is ever the problem.   The 2 students in Incheon who tested positive got it from being at a coin gaming room (1: what where they doing there in the first place? 2: why was the coin game room even allowed to be opened?).  Further proving my point that schools are not the problem but everywhere.  If they don't close down or lockdown public spaces, businesses, then ppl will just keep contracting it from outside and then bring into school forcing schools to close again and again.

Where I live, 0 cases.  No student in my entire city has ever had an infection, yet we have to operate as if it is ground zero here defcon 1 status here.

I just found out that in my school (don't know about yours) the students will be limited to staying in their classrooms only and I have to go to each room to teach.  Since a place like the english room/center is shared by many grades and classes, they think it's dangerous because of everyone sharing the same desk or seats and touching stuff. 

Our school even got rid of all our sofas, seats, chairs (except classrooms) because they said its dangerous if people sit on the same chair/sofa that someone else sat in.

My title is meant to be sarcastic.  I'm trying to show how silly such an accusation is because all of you don't actually think it is a risk to your life and it's not that serious to the point where we must protest to refuse being forced to go to school and work while being exposed to hundreds of students while it's still soooooooooooooooooo dangerous out there!  It's the end of days right?  People are dying and falling off left and right of you wherever you go.   Oh the travesty!  I go outside on these beautiful lovely sunny days and see everyone just suffering right now....not.

Korea's safety measures and standards are really great, no doubt...these are excellent ideas and strategies to contain the virus, but it's overkill.   Outside school, life feels quite normalized now...but going into school, it's like walking into the apocalypse end times scenario..... i feel more danger being in school than being outside in public places with strangers on buses or downtown restaurants and city streets.

« Last Edit: Yesterday at 03:08:06 pm by fruitloops »


Why am I a troll account because I disagree with you?

Who has more than one account Mr. D? IP address check
Because you tend to rile people up and people assume you're Korean even though it's highly unlikely that you are. Sort of like UriNara.

Anyways, time to get things going. Either that or shut it down until September.


  • Mr C
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1952

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
And the hits just keep on coming.

Like I said way back in February, the entire year is a wash...it's lost.  First the itaewon outbreak that spread to Incheon and Gangwando, and now this new cluster from a logistics company further closing down schools again in Seoul indefinitely.

I read the Seoul government say that phase 3 of reopening will continue on Wednesday as scheduled.

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As I said, you don't catch the virus from school.  One elementary school student was tested positive but they got it from one of their parents who worked at that logistics company.   You'd be able to trace and track where the virus is spreading and who has BEFORE school is ever the problem.   The 2 students in Incheon who tested positive got it from being at a coin gaming room (1: what where they doing there in the first place? 2: why was the coin game room even allowed to be opened?).  Further proving my point that schools are not the problem but everywhere.  If they don't close down or lockdown public spaces, businesses, then ppl will just keep contracting it from outside and then bring into school forcing schools to close again and again.


Yeah.  I  don't remember who, but someone on here compared the school situation to having a "no-peeing zone" in a pubic swimming pool.

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Where I live, 0 cases.  No student in my entire city has ever had an infection, yet we have to operate as if it is ground zero here defcon 1 status here.

I just found out that in my school (don't know about yours) the students will be limited to staying in their classrooms only and I have to go to each room to teach.  Since a place like the english room/center is shared by many grades and classes, they think it's dangerous because of everyone sharing the same desk or seats and touching stuff. 


That's quite sensible, actually.  If someone is infected, that contains it to a smaller group.  Also, eliminating students passing in the halls cuts off another vector.

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Our school even got rid of all our sofas, seats, chairs (except classrooms) because they said its dangerous if people sit on the same chair/sofa that someone else sat in.


That may be a bit much, but who knows?  How many sofas laying around your school anyway?

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My title is meant to be sarcastic.  I'm trying to show how silly such an accusation is because all of you don't actually think it is a risk to your life and it's not that serious to the point where we must protest to refuse being forced to go to school and work while being exposed to hundreds of students while it's still soooooooooooooooooo dangerous out there!  It's the end of days right?  People are dying and falling off left and right of you wherever you go.   Oh the travesty!  I go outside on these beautiful lovely sunny days and see everyone just suffering right now....not.

Korea's safety measures and standards are really great, no doubt...these are excellent ideas and strategies to contain the virus, but it's overkill. 


I read somewhere that the hallmark of a successful containment scheme is that we look back at it afterward and say, "What were we so worried about?  Maybe we went too far."  But we're not out of it yet.

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Outside school, life feels quite normalized now...but going into school, it's like walking into the apocalypse end times scenario..... i feel more danger being in school than being outside in public places with strangers on buses or downtown restaurants and city streets.


Okay, but just because you *feel* safer, doesn't mean you are.  At school, everyone has their temperature monitored, gets slathered in sanitizer frequently, and wear masks 100%.  My school has like five new crew people constantly going around wiping things down.

You can't say that about the people on the bus.
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