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  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1973

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2020, 02:57:56 pm »
Stoat:

What people believe to be true about themselves and what is actually true are two different things.

Four out of five rate their intelligence to be above average. (I guess one out of five pick merely average.) Thatís a statistical impossibility.

Study after study shows the majority of obese people donít think theyíre obese and the majority of overweight people donít think theyíre overweight.

This is why a self reported assessment canít be trusted.

Maybe so, but still curious about what evidence you're basing your statement on. 


  • tylerthegloob
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1888

    • September 28, 2016, 10:46:24 am
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Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2020, 03:03:43 pm »
none, it's just a guess. also if he's wrong he'll say he meant something else that happens to fit the actual data (if it exists and anyone bothers to look it up)


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2020, 03:12:46 pm »
Iím basing it on my eyes.

NETs are fatter than their Korean colleagues generally speaking. Including stoat.

Western countries have majority overweight populations so why would it be inconceivable that most NETs are overweight, especially among posters here, as this forum tends to skew older.


  • Kayos
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1988

    • March 31, 2016, 07:13:57 pm
    • NZ
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2020, 03:14:19 pm »
That's why I wear Bermuda shorts and a wife beater for job interviews and funerals. I mean hey, it's all subjective, right? ;)

I'd personally have no problem about that. Last funeral I went to again, shorts and casual t. No one really cared.
For job interviews, I go based on what I assume they would want. Though, last interview I done was online; I was in a sleeping bag and casual t-shirt and the guy didn't care. Got offered the job too but turned it down, as I ended up wanting to stay where I am for another year.


  • CO2
  • Waygook Lord

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    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
    • Uiwang
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2020, 03:15:02 pm »
Iím basing it on my eyes.

NETs are fatter than their Korean colleagues generally speaking. Including stoat.

Are you implying he's stout?
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


  • oglop
  • The Legend

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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #65 on: April 21, 2020, 03:16:30 pm »
And I'm basing on my eyes that waygook users with a capital L and I in their names talk a lot of shite


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  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #66 on: April 21, 2020, 03:18:23 pm »
He said heís overweight before. So yeah, itís true.


  • oglop
  • The Legend

    • 4625

    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #67 on: April 21, 2020, 03:18:43 pm »
I'd personally have no problem about that. Last funeral I went to again, shorts and casual t. No one really cared.
For job interviews, I go based on what I assume they would want. Though, last interview I done was online; I was in a sleeping bag and casual t-shirt and the guy didn't care. Got offered the job too but turned it down, as I ended up wanting to stay where I am for another year.
I was only joking. Of course it all depends on the situation, context and expectations


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  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #68 on: April 21, 2020, 03:25:27 pm »
Anyways, I didnít start this thread. The takeaway is humans canít really be trusted to give accurate information or know what theyíre talking about. Not just some but most. 90% rate their driving ability as above average. How can that be? Human nature is flawed.


  • oglop
  • The Legend

    • 4625

    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #69 on: April 21, 2020, 03:37:59 pm »
Anyways, I didnít start this thread. The takeaway is humans canít really be trusted to give accurate information or know what theyíre talking about. Not just some but most. 90% rate their driving ability as above average. How can that be? Human nature is flawed.
gah! it's like r/selfawarewolves


  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1973

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #70 on: April 21, 2020, 03:53:55 pm »
Iím basing it on my eyes.

NETs are fatter than their Korean colleagues generally speaking. Including stoat.

Western countries have majority overweight populations so why would it be inconceivable that most NETs are overweight, especially among posters here, as this forum tends to skew older.

I agree it wouldn't be inconceivable, that's why I started the poll. However, as you know all sorts of other variables would enter into the result. E.g. Age as i mentioned before, but others such as class - degree holders will overall be more middle class than non degree holders, lower classes tend to be fatter.  People who are prepared to travel long distances to work may be more active generally,  arts students v science students, men v women,  etc.

It's also a little bizarre to come out with a statement like that and then say you said it because it's statistically most likely

E.g. A: Most people where I work are men.
B: Are they?
A: Well, yes because the majority of the Korean workforce are men.
B: Eh?

« Last Edit: April 21, 2020, 04:33:52 pm by stoat »


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  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #71 on: April 21, 2020, 07:04:43 pm »
Around 78% of obese and 52% of morbidly (extremely) obese people in South Africa astonishingly consider themselves to be healthy.
https://www.health24.com/Diet-and-nutrition/News/Obese-people-in-denial-report-finds-20130210

The proportion of obese adults selecting the term Ďobeseí to describe their body size was very low in both women (13% in 2007 and 11% in 2012) and men (4% in 2007 and 7% in 2012)
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/4/11/e005561.full?sid=ef1e9018-cd8a-4c5e-8ed9-f52b04290546


  • tylerthegloob
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • September 28, 2016, 10:46:24 am
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Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #72 on: April 22, 2020, 07:41:31 am »
(repeatedly) trying to prove that most people under-report how overweight they are does nothing to prove the claim that most NETs are overweight (just that this thread's poll doesn't provide useful data)


  • madison79
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • October 19, 2010, 01:26:04 pm
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Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2020, 10:13:48 am »
come on then. everyone posts their BMIs

BMI is crap way of checking. 
It's -ev to deal with some people.


  • stoat
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1973

    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2020, 10:21:55 am »
Yeah, 'can you pinch an inch?' was much better.


  • alexisalex
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • March 02, 2014, 05:10:24 pm
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #75 on: April 24, 2020, 10:28:43 am »
I definitely think I've put on a little bit of weight since the virus stuff started  :cry:


Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #76 on: April 24, 2020, 10:38:54 am »
I definitely think I've put on a little bit of weight since the virus stuff started  :cry:

me too. my taekwondo test was delayed by 9 months....the good thing is  I don't have the cravings for eating out much anymore but the lack of activity...yeah


Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #77 on: April 24, 2020, 10:48:25 am »
BMI is crap way of checking. 

It's basically the most inaccurate way of checking because it's based on comparing you to an average, and that average isn't formulated to accommodate anything that could affect those numbers.

For people who don't understand why this matters, bodybuilders are considered morbidly obese according to their BMIs.

It's just the fastest way of determining where you might sit on a scale. And while most people do fit within certain ranges for their heights and builds, your BMI is going to be widely inaccurate if your makeup falls even a little outside of the calculated norm.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #78 on: April 24, 2020, 11:09:50 am »
For people who don't understand why this matters, bodybuilders are considered morbidly obese according to their BMIs.

Morbidly obese? Maybe just obese or just overweight? Unless we are talking juiced up top bodybuilder in the world Phil Heath types.

More commonly it goes the other way, telling skinny fat people who lack muscle and have thin bones that they are in a normal weight category.

That said, BMI is better than nothing and most people unaware of how overweight they are didn't even do a BMI calculation. In most most cases they are unaware of what that is. 


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5428

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: Quote: Most Nets are overweight (LI)
« Reply #79 on: April 24, 2020, 11:12:11 am »
A better way to calculate is waist measurement. Also body fat percentage check. Which is not exactly perfect, but is a good general guide. Won't be too far off.