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Greatest TV Show and Character
« on: April 17, 2020, 06:01:07 pm »
All in the Family and Archie Bunker

Done!


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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2020, 06:28:05 pm »
Goldfield from Kenny Vs Spenny.
레새 뭐 페르, 커나르드. 에스티 타베르낰 트루 드 볘르즈.


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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2020, 07:39:39 pm »
My answer has changed over time. From what I recall:

Sesame Street and Oscar the Grouch
Three's Company and Jack Tripper
Magnum P.I. and Thomas Magnum
Star Trek: Next Generation and Captain Picard
Homicide: Life on the Street and Frank Pembleton
Kids in the Hall and Chicken Lady
Law & Order and Mike Logan
Prison Break and T-Bag
Lost and Sayid Jarrah
The Wire and Stringer Bell
The Walking Dead and Shane
True Detective and Rustin Cohle


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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2020, 07:41:19 pm »
Lt. Columbo, Columbo
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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2020, 08:19:27 pm »
Desmond - Lost

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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2020, 09:27:14 pm »
Desmond - Lost


aw thinking about Lost always brings back so many good memories. i used to absolutely love that show when i was younger - and i'd spend hours on the imdb boards discussing possible theories and explanations week in week out. watching the new episode was one of the things i'd most look forward to all week

however.. it seemed to devolve in the last few seasons and it was clear that the writers had no idea how to finish it, despite them clearly saying they had the ending in mind all along, and that it definitely wasn't the purgatory theory that was floating around at the time. sigh, **** you lost. **** you and your shitty ending (you too, dexter and game of thrones)
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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2020, 09:29:22 pm »
anyway, i'd go with alan partridge.

oh, and jimmy/saul from better call saul/breaking bad. i'm only going with saul because his character progression in better call saul (to who/how he ends up in breaking bad as) is absolutely fantastic writing. vince gilligan writes great characters, i think

and can we go with books too? i love Gus's character from Lonesome Dove
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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2020, 09:35:04 pm »
Desmond - Lost



Would have gone for John Locke, myself. Hated how they killed him off.


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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2020, 10:52:57 pm »
Would have gone for John Locke, myself. Hated how they killed him off.
You're preaching to the choir, man.

Locke is a very, very close contender.
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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2020, 10:57:24 pm »
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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2020, 02:24:07 am »
Michael Scott the office! Enough said!


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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2020, 06:39:07 am »
Jack Regan    The Sweeney
Capt Mainwaring   Dad's Army
Alan Partridge   I'm Alan Partridge
David Brent   The Office
Rigsby   Rising Damp
Arthur Daley  Minder
Mark Corrigan    Peep Show
Rick    The Young Ones
I guess Hilda Ogden Coronation Street for the token woman.


Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2020, 07:53:37 am »
If we're talking sitcom, no contest.  George Costanza is the greatest character.


Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2020, 09:03:41 am »
Hmm, that's tough. I'm going to exclude any literary figures brought to screen. Sorry Tyrion, Poirot and Rumpole. This applies to animation as well. Obviously this list suffers from recency bias.

I think my nominees would be for dramas:
-Captain Picard and ST:TNG: A great character and great show. "The Picard Speech" is still an icon and perhaps the most moral voice in recent entertainment. Somewhat hampered by Star Trek still being something of a "nerd" show and seasons 1, 2, and 7 being rather weak. ST: Picard has not helped and feels like Jordan coming back to play for the Wizards.
-Al Swearingen and Deadwood: The best character on the best written show. A character of wonderful complexity and range. A show so layered and well written that you pick up new stuff even after watching it multiple times. The problem? Only three seasons.
-Dana Scully and the X-Files: A show that quite possibly has had more influence on our culture than any other show and more than we realize when it comes to the near-global distrust of institutions and penchant for conspiracy. It was Scully's transformation as a character that truly defined the show. Hampered by X-Files going off the rails in later seasons.
-Frank Pembleton and Homicide: Life on the Street: (I think there's enough distinction between the real-life Edgerton and Braugher's Pembleton that he still qualifies) The best character on the best TV police show ever. Engrossing every minute on screen. The show set the stage for Oz and The Wire. Pembleton and Homicide eclipse both those shows and any character on them. Only hampered by NBC scheduling chaos and a lackluster 7th season. Quite possibly the greatest 1st season cast of any TV series.
-Kim Wexler and Better Call Saul: Is this premature? With this being the penultimate season I think we can nominate Wexler. Breaking Bad is considered the GOAT. However, Wexler has become the best character on BCS, and is more compelling than any character on Breaking Bad. If Better Call Saul sticks the landing as well as Breaking Bad did, it would be an absolute triumph.

Comedic (gonna keep it brief nto because I think comedy is lesser, but just for brevity):
-George Costanza
-Archie Bunker
-Miranda Hobbes
-Mary Richards (I didn't watch MTM, but from what I understand her character was deeply influential)
-Uncle Phil: For many American kids of a certain generation, Uncle Phil was like a surrogate father. Quite possibly one of the most beloved characters on TV.

Animation (Don't know enough about Japanese animation to include anything):
-Daria Morgendorffer
-Eric Cartman
-Lisa Simpson (I really don't like Lisa, but the character is incredibly significant, probably the most significant on the show)
-Huey Freeman (Given that really early it was being pitched as a show, I think he still qualifies as a TV character)
-Stewie Griffin


Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2020, 09:14:18 am »
Basil Fawlty      Fawlty Towers


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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2020, 09:16:41 am »
Mark Corrigan    Peep Show
You wot? No Jez? What about his job? You fuckin cretin, you moron!
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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2020, 09:17:32 am »
If we're talking sitcom, no contest.  George Costanza is the greatest character.
+1

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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2020, 10:00:04 am »
Quote
Mary Richards (I didn't watch MTM, but from what I understand her character was deeply influential)

If you're going to suggest a character you didn't even watch, you might as well just get your answer from a poll or watchmojo.com

e.g. Phoebe out of friends (never watched a single episode)


Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2020, 11:23:33 am »
If you're going to suggest a character you didn't even watch, you might as well just get your answer from a poll or watchmojo.com

e.g. Phoebe out of friends (never watched a single episode)
First, I've seen a few episodes of MTM. Second, I've never seen Abraham Lincoln, but if someone were to make a list of 'Greatest Presidents' I wouldn't limit myself to Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump.  Third, I've seen all the others. It's just that her character is really groundbreaking so I think we have to consider it.


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Re: Greatest TV Show and Character
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2020, 11:51:18 am »
Jack Regan    The Sweeney
Capt Mainwaring   Dad's Army
Alan Partridge   I'm Alan Partridge
David Brent   The Office
Rigsby   Rising Damp
Arthur Daley  Minder
Mark Corrigan    Peep Show
Rick    The Young Ones
I guess Hilda Ogden Coronation Street for the token woman.


Haha, 100% sure your a Brit now.

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Actually I'd go for Frank Burns.