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Potentially very chilling data
« on: March 26, 2020, 11:11:30 am »
In short - 21 million Chinese mobile subscriptions vanished, within a month. Previous records, going back for the past  few years shows this has never happened before.

Checking the Wuhan Virology Lab website, C-Milk found that a month before the first outbreak, the website had a job posting looking for a PHD researcher to help study the immune system
of bats and humans related to the different types of coronaviruses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1F_kWYdqUY

« Last Edit: March 26, 2020, 11:14:15 am by Aristocrat »


  • L I
  • The Legend

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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2020, 11:18:51 am »
Next time post in the China section and use a thread title that gives some indication of the thread contents.


  • confusedsafferinkorea
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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 11:54:35 am »
Next time post in the China section and use a thread title that gives some indication of the thread contents.

Wow, chill dude.
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


  • fruitloops
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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2020, 11:57:09 am »
Not likely.  If that many people died and they just covered it up, in this day in age, someone with a smartphone and access to the internet would have been able to leak out anything about millions of deaths.

Now that it's affecting Europe and America very badly right now into the 100Ks (not counting the millions unreported), you'd also be seeing or hearing about millions of deaths but you don't. 

This is not the killer virus they are making it out to be.  This is actually quite a benign virus.   The real killer virus in the near future is what we have to be worried about.  This is just a little taste or litmus test to gauge the world and it's preparedness or not.


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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2020, 11:58:47 am »
Taiwan warned them too.

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/03/25/2003733321


Virus Outbreak: Taiwan warned WHO, China on virus last year
TWEET CONFIRMED: The US’ Morgan Ortagus backed up Taiwan, saying China only admitted that human-to-human transmission was possible as late as Jan. 20
By Lin Chia-nan / Staff reporter

 

 

Taiwan warned the WHO and China about possible human-to-human transmission of the new coronavirus at the end of last year, but the global health body did not make it public, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said yesterday.

Department of International Organizations Director-General Bob Chen (陳龍錦) made the remark at a news briefing in Taipei, when asked about statements made by US Department of State spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus.

“Dec. 31— that’s the same day Taiwan first tried to warn WHO of human-human transmission. Chinese authorities meanwhile silenced doctors and refused to admit human-human transmission until Jan. 20, with catastrophic consequences,” Ortagus wrote on Twitter yesterday.


There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2020, 12:01:38 pm »
Wow, chill dude.

It's about good netiquette.

Many forums have those rules.

It's beneficial in that users can decide whether to skip a thread.

Vaguery is kind of like clickbait.

"Unbelievable", "I'm at a loss for words", etc thread titles with content unrelated to life in Korea are annoying.


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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2020, 12:14:44 pm »
Not likely.  If that many people died and they just covered it up, in this day in age, someone with a smartphone and access to the internet would have been able to leak out anything about millions of deaths.

Now that it's affecting Europe and America very badly right now into the 100Ks (not counting the millions unreported), you'd also be seeing or hearing about millions of deaths but you don't. 

This is not the killer virus they are making it out to be.  This is actually quite a benign virus.   The real killer virus in the near future is what we have to be worried about.  This is just a little taste or litmus test to gauge the world and it's preparedness or not.

...think on who controls what is posted?

For example, Twitter is supposedly banned in China.  Twitter is banning anything related that links China to the virus  in a way that puts some sort of accountability on them.  Yet, twitter allows the pro-China posts (large umbrella cocerning that).


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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2020, 12:53:00 pm »
This is not the killer virus they are making it out to be.  This is actually quite a benign virus.


 Latest stats:   infections reache 471,017 death toll climbs to 21,282

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Not a killer virus, quite benign...... tell that to the families of the 21,282 that died and to the 471,017 infected.

Head in the sand, much.
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2020, 01:42:59 pm »
Not likely.  If that many people died and they just covered it up, in this day in age, someone with a smartphone and access to the internet would have been able to leak out anything about millions of deaths.

Now that it's affecting Europe and America very badly right now into the 100Ks (not counting the millions unreported), you'd also be seeing or hearing about millions of deaths but you don't. 

This is not the killer virus they are making it out to be.  This is actually quite a benign virus.   The real killer virus in the near future is what we have to be worried about.  This is just a little taste or litmus test to gauge the world and it's preparedness or not.

For me, it's too unbelievable that 21 million people died, in China, as a result of the virus, but neither you, nor I, can explain the 21 million missing mobile subscriptions.

First, you can't correlate the numbers in China to Europe and the USA. For the most part, Europe is comprised of 1st world countries. China's hygiene standards are exponentially worse, living conditions
are more cramped and China's healthcare system is far worse.

We could argue that in an effort to tighten the belts during harsher economic times, 21 million Chinese mobile users opted to cancel their subscriptions. If this were the case,
you'd see at least a few million subscribers switch to cheaper plans or move to different networks, nope, they just vanished.

In reality, nobody (including Winnie the Flu himself) knows how many people have died or are infected. From medical staff on the ground, right up to the CCP leadership, everyone is fudging the results and many cases, deaths and infections happen off the books. So, people in China are just as in the dark as you or I. Then, of course, there's the matter of censorship, propaganda and fear.

Nobody has a clear view of what's going on in China.


Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2020, 02:36:41 pm »
Or China shut down 21 million cell phone accounts of people not suspicious enough to warrant imprisonment, but suspicious enough to be monitored and would be the first in line to have their links cut.

I think 21 million deaths is a bit of a longshot. The CCP is awful, but that just seems like a rather far-fetched number when a much more practical explanation exists.


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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2020, 03:13:57 pm »
I doubt 21 million died, as has been suggested perhaps some have cut back. Many people have two or more phones in China and there are no contracts it is kind of prepaid/contract mixture. You opt for a certain package for example x talk minutes and x Gb data for x RMB a month but no actual contract, you just use Alipay or Wechat pay to pay that amount. So it is quite possible that people have ditched that 2nd or 3rd phone since they haven't worked for almost 2 months.

It will be interesting to see if once this all dies down if they re-appear.
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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2020, 03:16:50 pm »
Or China shut down 21 million cell phone accounts of people not suspicious enough to warrant imprisonment, but suspicious enough to be monitored and would be the first in line to have their links cut.

I think 21 million deaths is a bit of a longshot. The CCP is awful, but that just seems like a rather far-fetched number when a much more practical explanation exists.

I agree, 21 million deaths is a pretty long shot (though I do suspect it could be over or close to a million). I'm not drawing conclusions, just speculating, at this point.

The 2nd half of the video though has some fantastic coincidences.



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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2020, 03:56:17 pm »
China Mobile alone has over 900 millions customer. And there are, I think, 3 major players in the mobile provider market. The other ones maybe have around 300 million each. So 21 million closed accounts isn't too surprising. Over half the population don't make much money so getting their rid of their cell phones does make sense.


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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2020, 06:21:23 pm »
China Mobile alone has over 900 millions customer. And there are, I think, 3 major players in the mobile provider market. The other ones maybe have around 300 million each. So 21 million closed accounts isn't too surprising. Over half the population don't make much money so getting their rid of their cell phones does make sense.

No....those accounts weren't closed.  They simply vanished.


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Re: Potentially very chilling data
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2020, 06:57:52 pm »
No....those accounts weren't closed.  They simply vanished.
I can't be bothered wasting 18 minutes of my life. Vanished as their accounts have lapsed, so no longer used? As someone mentioned a lot of those pay-as-you-go phones around. That makes sense since a lot of people don't get paid much, and if they miss a paycheck one of the first things to cut back on is their cell phone.