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  • CO2
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5810

    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
    • Uiwang
How long do you think we got?
« on: March 25, 2020, 11:46:24 pm »
This is for public school teachers

How long can this go on?

How long can they pay us?

When will we be defined as "non-essential?"

Gyeonggi government wants to give all Korean residents 100 000 won

If this school year goes further than April 6th...... Will we be viable?
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

    • 2024

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2020, 12:00:56 am »
Um, we are contracted during our contract period to teach 190 days.  The year schedule may be adjusted but we will still teach our classes for the length of our contracts.

How long can they pay us?  As long as our contracts say so. 

What's Gyeonggi $1000 give-out got to do with it?

Sorry, CO2, but I expected better from you.
Mr. C is not a bad person, in fact is quite a good person here. One of the best people on this forum if you really look at it
-Mr.DeMartino


  • L I
  • The Legend

    • 4856

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 02:09:12 am »
100,000 is $80.


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

    • 2024

    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2020, 05:47:14 am »
100,000 is $80.
Yeah, I misread. If it's so little, I can't imagine it matters to anyone, or impacts anyone's job.
Mr. C is not a bad person, in fact is quite a good person here. One of the best people on this forum if you really look at it
-Mr.DeMartino


  • Colburnnn
  • Expert Waygook

    • 979

    • August 10, 2015, 05:52:37 pm
    • South Korea
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2020, 06:11:47 am »
Until the end of your contract. We work for the government.
Haven't you got some pictures of birds to be jacking off to, son?

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  • alexisalex
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1065

    • March 02, 2014, 05:10:24 pm
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2020, 09:03:52 am »
Aren't all the funds for native teachers (salary, housing, severance) given to schools up front at the beginning of the year?

Yeah I read about that 100,000 Won.  Let's hope that public school teachers aren't eligible for it because I don't know how you could feel good about receiving it whilst you're on full pay from your job.  Give it to people who are actually out of work because of the virus.


  • OnNut81
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1163

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2020, 01:18:01 pm »
Yeah, the money for NETs was allocated and provided when the decision was made for the school to have a NET. The money is already there. 


  • CO2
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5810

    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
    • Uiwang
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2020, 05:32:57 pm »
Sorry, CO2, but I expected better from you.

What happens when the global economy crashes? What happens when inflation hits 200 percent.

We are always the first to go when budgets come to mind.

What happens when a second surge happens? If the virus mutates.

What happens when your city decides you're a "nice to have" but the 보건소 needs the money.

What happens if the feds need a stimulus package?

It'd be cheaper to cut us all two months salary and say goodbye.

This is what keeps me up at night.

Surely I'm not the first person to think about this. This is the most world defining event in 20 years, and my first as an independent adult.

People are worried.
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


  • Lazio
  • Super Waygook

    • 341

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2020, 07:50:22 pm »
What happens when the global economy crashes? What happens when inflation hits 200 percent.

We are always the first to go when budgets come to mind.

What happens when a second surge happens? If the virus mutates.

What happens when your city decides you're a "nice to have" but the 보건소 needs the money.

What happens if the feds need a stimulus package?

It'd be cheaper to cut us all two months salary and say goodbye.

This is what keeps me up at night.

Surely I'm not the first person to think about this. This is the most world defining event in 20 years, and my first as an independent adult.

People are worried.

I agree.
I don't know why some think that everything will happen as their contract says. No matter what kind of pandemic comes or war or even a zombie apokalypse...


Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2020, 07:50:53 pm »
Oh how cute of some of you to think that the contract will be honored. We know that not honoring written agreements is kind of par for the course here.


  • pkjh
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1809

    • May 02, 2012, 02:59:44 pm
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2020, 08:58:14 pm »
Oh how cute of some of you to think that the contract will be honored. We know that not honoring written agreements is kind of par for the course here.
If you're an EPIK teacher you'll get paid... unless there is something that causes the downfall of the government (if the pandemics goes a year perhaps we'll see revolutions worldwide), or they miss a debt payment (which South Korea hasn't done since like 1997).


  • VanIslander
  • Moderator LVL 1

    • 1811

    • June 02, 2011, 10:12:19 am
    • Seogwipo, Jeju Island
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Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2020, 09:17:44 pm »
You have 24 hours left to live. What'll you do?


  • L I
  • The Legend

    • 4856

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2020, 10:06:23 pm »
Call people you love to thank them for all they've done.

Make the most of precious moments.

How much longer do we have to live?

What percentage of our life is over?

Death comes to us all.

Life is finite.

It's scary to think about.


  • Datasapien
  • Expert Waygook

    • 548

    • February 04, 2012, 09:36:25 pm
    • Chungcheongbuk-do
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Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2020, 08:08:05 am »
Call people you love to thank them for all they've done.

Make the most of precious moments.

How much longer do we have to live?

What percentage of our life is over?

Death comes to us all.

Life is finite.

It's scary to think about.

Some good stuff there, think I'll add these questions to my grade 1 introduction class worksheet, cheers L1!
I never finish anyth


Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2020, 08:31:26 am »
The main thing you learn over time here is you always need an exit plan.  Don't get comfortable and think you've got a job for life no matter how much your schools/teachers/students etc love you.  It just doesn't work like that.  I've survived two culls, but both of those times I was ready to move on, but didn't.

The way I see it, if you started your new contract this month, then you're fine for the year.  Your school has received budget for you for the year.  It came from central government, down to your provincial government so there is too much there to try and pull it back now.  Next year would be a different kettle of fish.  If your province is running on the bare bones of foreign teachers like Chungnam is, then I doubt there'd be more cuts.  Chungnam did these culls years ago so axing more would not really save that much. 

But being Korea, you never know. 


  • CO2
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5810

    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
    • Uiwang
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2020, 09:43:02 am »
The main thing you learn over time here is you always need an exit plan.  Don't get comfortable and think you've got a job for life no matter how much your schools/teachers/students etc love you.  It just doesn't work like that.  I've survived two culls, but both of those times I was ready to move on, but didn't.

The way I see it, if you started your new contract this month, then you're fine for the year.  Your school has received budget for you for the year.  It came from central government, down to your provincial government so there is too much there to try and pull it back now.  Next year would be a different kettle of fish.  If your province is running on the bare bones of foreign teachers like Chungnam is, then I doubt there'd be more cuts.  Chungnam did these culls years ago so axing more would not really save that much. 

But being Korea, you never know. 
Well said.
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


  • L I
  • The Legend

    • 4856

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2020, 10:04:57 am »
Forming an exit plan, C02? How about growing your  YouTube following to the point it can be your main source of income?


  • OnNut81
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1163

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2020, 03:17:14 pm »
What happens when the global economy crashes? What happens when inflation hits 200 percent.

We are always the first to go when budgets come to mind.

What happens when a second surge happens? If the virus mutates.

What happens when your city decides you're a "nice to have" but the 보건소 needs the money.

What happens if the feds need a stimulus package?

It'd be cheaper to cut us all two months salary and say goodbye.

This is what keeps me up at night.

Surely I'm not the first person to think about this. This is the most world defining event in 20 years, and my first as an independent adult.

People are worried.

If it comes around to the government clawing back on budgets to get money we'll have bigger problems to worry about. My big concern is the value of the won.  Nothing I can do about the currency of my eventual severance, pension and key money.  It's stuck in won. 


  • KimDuHan
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1328

    • January 15, 2015, 11:48:59 am
    • Seoul
Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2020, 09:33:26 am »
If it comes around to the government clawing back on budgets to get money we'll have bigger problems to worry about. My big concern is the value of the won.  Nothing I can do about the currency of my eventual severance, pension and key money.  It's stuck in won. 

The won will be fine against the Canadian dollar but against the American dollars! Yikes!


Re: How long do you think we got?
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2020, 02:07:22 pm »
Exit plan.  This.

Imagine putting yourself in the shoes of a Korean teacher.  Think about it.  Most of them do not wake up in the morning and go to work thinking, this might be my last semester
or year.  No.  They wake up knowing that they are locked into this career until retirement if they want as long as they stay out of trouble and do what is required as a teacher.  They
are all thinking long-term, long-term benefits/pay increase tremendously, and the incentive to teach for 35 or 45 years in the school system is massive.

But for NETs, we understand that we are only guest teachers.  So, our survival and mindset is completely different.  We are constantly thinking this could be my last year.
What will I do next year? Where will I go?  What are my long-term plans? There is no security and no long-term benefits.  The longer you stay, the same pay or even less you get.
You don't get the same perks as Korean teachers do.

That's why I noticed that Korean teachers are very obedient and very scared all the time to not break any rules or policies.  For them their entire career is at stake if they mess up.
The authority figures have more power and leverage over the teachers knowing that their entire career and future hinges on every single moment and work day.  So that's why they are so obedient and straight as an arrow.  I could see and hear the fear in my korean teachers eyes and voices when they talk to their principals or vps making sure they keep the rest of their future intact and inline.   Any slip up and you could jeopardize your career and say bye-bye.  Even principals and vps get scared and worried when they are contacted by education ministry or other higher ups.  I know this personally because I went through something like this where "outside" higher ups had to contact our school about something that I did or requested and it scared the heck out of my school.

As for NETs, we aren't governed by the same motivation.  NETs will try their best to respect all the rules and policies but the reality is, we're goners anyways so we take more risks, we take more chances and not afraid to say or do things that might ruffle feathers and cost us our job.  NETs don't have that built-in "my entire career hinges on this" moment per se.   We are like ticking timebombs knowing that at any moment, we could be gone, we could be out of the country, we could be looking back at this lifestyle as a long distant memory of our past.  It's kinda sad.

So, yes, I feel sorry for the new teachers who come with wide eyes and innocence thinking they just landed a career in english teaching and became english teachers....really, we are not real teachers here.  You have to find an exit plan for yourself and be prepared.  Some may end up staying in Korea for life and making this your career, sure! Not saying that isn't possible.  But most won't.  Most will be here or at least teaching as only temporary and you have to have an exit plan and be ready (maybe open up a cafe/bar/fried chicken joint) because unlike the Korean teachers who are locked in for life and have all the benefits laid out before them to strive for.....you as a NET have nothing to strive for except the next paycheck everything after that is cloud of uncertainty.

In an ideal world, we would always want our employers to take care of us and invest in us and then perhaps we would invest more back into them.  But the reality is nobody really cares about you and when you are out of a job, nobody is going to take care of you.   You have to take care of yourself.  That's not being selfish.  It's being smart.  I didn't make up the rules of the game. That's just unfortunately how it is. 
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