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Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« on: March 25, 2020, 05:25:22 am »
These Chaebols are just evil. I have for years thought they are abusing the general Korean population and this proves it IMHO.


https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/tech/2020/03/693_286728.html


Some conglomerates are withdrawing work-from-home policies as they transition towards longer-term "emergency management" strategies to deal with the unpredictability of the global market due to the coronavirus outbreak.

Hyundai, Samsung, LG, and SK Group all had been asking employees to work from home and the companies are monitoring the situation based on guidance from health officials. The risk of the infection of even a single employee would result in the temporary closure of an entire facility or workplace.

But as the coronavirus is beginning to assert a greater impact on the global economy, some of the country's leading conglomerates, particularly Hyundai and Samsung, have shifted to a new strategy that is referred to as "emergency management" by its promoters.

On Tuesday, Hyundai Motors Group and its sister group Kia Motors said the automotive group affiliates ordered employees to return back to work despite the growing fears of the spreading coronavirus.

With higher hopes of reducing the possibility of employees' exposure to the contagious and epidemic virus, the automotive brands have recently been adopting "flexible hours" for workers who might otherwise be on the job simultaneously. But the core reason about the decision, according to Hyundai officials, is that the Hyundai Motors Group has no option but to minimize the efforts of the virus on the group's financial sheets after the group shut down its key plants in Europe, the United States and Asia for the fear of the virus.
The company expanded flexible starting hours for employees from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. from the previous 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. It also eliminated mandatory daily work hours, which had been set at 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. The Hyundai Motor Group, including its sister Kia, planned to sell more than 7 million vehicles this year; however, the spreading virus raised questions as to whether the group could achieve the ambitious sales target.

Samsung Electronics said the company is planning to expand the implementation of local coronavirus taskforce policies to its international businesses and to apply countermeasures to prepare for the "worst case scenario." Its leader vice chairman Lee Jae-yong recently visited Samsung Display's OLED panel-manufacturing plant in Asan, South Chungcheong Province, to encourage workers who've been working at the factory despite the virus.

Other companies, however, are still having employees work from home. SK Group, whose core affiliates are SK Telecom and SK Innovation, said the group will extend its work-from-home policy to most affiliates through the end of the month. As a separate move, SK chairman Chey Tae-won recently asked senior executives of the group affiliates to assess the situation as the group was expecting its core businesses may not return to normal over the next several months due to global supply chain disruptions and weak consumer demand for finished goods caused by the virus.

According to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the country has reported close to 9,000 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 120 deaths as of March 24.



Compare this to what is happening in Taiwan.


https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3903344


Taiwan chip giant TSMC wants 30,000 employees to work from home


TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd. (TSMC), the largest chip contract manufacturer in the world, wants 30,000 of its employees to work at home after a staff member was confirmed to have the coronavirus last week, reports said Tuesday (March 24).

On March 18, an employee tested positive for the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) and was admitted to hospital for treatment, while 30 colleagues were asked to stay in quarantine for 14 days.

Staff not employed on the production line will work from home until April 12, while all employees have been asked not to make any foreign trips for the time being, CNA reported Tuesday.

Initially, the company had only said that staff should refrain from unnecessary travel, but the rapid spread of the virus on a worldwide scale led to management toughening up its measures.

TSMC said the virus outbreak has not affected production, with the company’s operations continuing as normal.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2020, 05:36:02 am by confusedsafferinkorea »
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Re: Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2020, 08:17:58 am »
That is one company in Taiwan you show as an example, you could find plenty of Korean companies doing it too (like SK, even the article mentions it. I also know that Hankook Tire is doing it too).
Also, people still work at TSMC on the production line and for the rest of the employees, the "work from home" policy is encouraged only and not mandated.
And in the meantime Taiwan is widely praised around the World for carrying on with life as usual. Stores, restaurants, schools open and people going to work. Business as usual.
So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.


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Re: Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2020, 10:11:31 am »
That is one company in Taiwan you show as an example, you could find plenty of Korean companies doing it too (like SK, even the article mentions it. I also know that Hankook Tire is doing it too).
Also, people still work at TSMC on the production line and for the rest of the employees, the "work from home" policy is encouraged only and not mandated.
And in the meantime Taiwan is widely praised around the World for carrying on with life as usual. Stores, restaurants, schools open and people going to work. Business as usual.
So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.

It's about chaebols not caring. Sure Taiwan is carrying on but with lots of checks and balances in place like Korea but the level of infection is nowhere near that of Korea and I can tell you that if it were to reach that level, the government would enforce no one going to work.

This is not about the average Korean's handling of the situation it is about the heartlessness of the chaebols.

I also think you have it wrong about what they are being praised for. They are being praised for a low infection rate despite their proximity to China and the fact that the CCP blocked their participation in the WHO.

« Last Edit: March 25, 2020, 10:19:43 am by confusedsafferinkorea »
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Re: Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2020, 11:39:36 am »
It's about chaebols not caring. Sure Taiwan is carrying on but with lots of checks and balances in place like Korea but the level of infection is nowhere near that of Korea and I can tell you that if it were to reach that level, the government would enforce no one going to work.

This is not about the average Korean's handling of the situation it is about the heartlessness of the chaebols.

I also think you have it wrong about what they are being praised for. They are being praised for a low infection rate despite their proximity to China and the fact that the CCP blocked their participation in the WHO.



What the article doesn't mention is how long they have been on the "work from home" method already. It's been weeks. At some point life should go back to normal or close to normal.
No countries have done the "no one goes to work" thing. As it can't be done. You see, production still goes on in Korea and in Taiwan too. Btw. Samsung did close its factory for two days after some workers tested positive.
Life doesn't stop. You might as well shut down all public transport and such. But for how long? This will go on for months in the best case scenario. Companies can't shut down for that long.

As for the low number of cases in Taiwan: The actual numbers and the numbers that are confirmed are two very different thing. Not just in Taiwan but any other country. Do you believe that Laos just had its very first case this week? Or do you honestly believe the numbers in Japan? Lots of cases go undetected in every country but the lower the rate of testing is, the higher the difference is between the reported positive cases and the actual number of cases.
Taiwan has done very little testing compared to Korea. Something like 25.000 vs. 350.000.


Re: Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2020, 02:35:54 pm »
What are the companies supposed to do? Close down and go bankrupt and completely ruin life in Korea to save a dozen lives?


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Re: Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2020, 03:04:15 pm »
What are the companies supposed to do? Close down and go bankrupt and completely ruin life in Korea to save a dozen lives?

Today Korea has 100 new infections and other countries with similar infection rates have been put into a lock down. Perhaps Korea needs to do the same, just to save a 'dozen' lives.

The 126 people that have died so far may not matter to you, but they certainly matter to someone. 
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Re: Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2020, 12:50:34 am »
When the cost of lost business becomes greater than burying people, businesses will allow for greater risk of deaths.


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Re: Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2020, 03:33:12 am »
When the cost of lost business becomes greater than burying people, businesses will allow for greater risk of deaths.


I was told, years ago, that a North Sea oil industry company was asked “how many helicopters will crash per year before you cancel the project.”

They came up with a number greater than zero.


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Re: Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2020, 02:32:27 pm »
Today Korea has 100 new infections and other countries with similar infection rates have been put into a lock down. Perhaps Korea needs to do the same, just to save a 'dozen' lives.

The 126 people that have died so far may not matter to you, but they certainly matter to someone.
You do realize that every single large scale decision leaders make has a cost in lives, right? If you can't understand that, you are not part of the adult conversation, but someone living in TV fantasy land where perfect solutions exist.

You have to look at the number of deaths vs. what the effect would be on people due to prolonged joblessness and mounting government debt. That would lead to unemployment which leads to suicide, depression, addiction, crime, domestic violence, etc. The lack of tax revenue and shortfalls? That leads to cuts in education, health services, transportation (auto deaths), etc. etc. "If it saves one life" or "Won't someone please think of the children???" can be one of the worst decision making mindsets out there. Now that doesn't mean you never go all out to save one life or think of the children, just you have to know when to apply that mindset and when not to.

Democrats and leftists would let people swamp a lifeboat because they're the cold but rational decision to start hitting the swampers with oars "is a downer".  Now, Republicans are the types that will boot people off so 1st class passengers and their dog go first, but that's another kettle of fish.


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Re: Samsung, Hyundai ending work-from-home policies
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2020, 03:19:34 pm »
You do realize that every single large scale decision leaders make has a cost in lives, right?

Two wrongs don't make a right.  So, in your opinion this should just be another decision that will cost lives. You don't place much value on human life. Perhaps you would think differently if it was one of your family that had died.
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