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China is to Blame
« on: March 06, 2020, 09:06:52 pm »
I cannot rationalize the real truth to pinpoint exactly how and where the COVID-19 came from. All I know is that this virus has been spreading around within China since the first half of January this year. The epicenter of COVID-19 started in the city of Wuhan. My pastor told me about it a week before the Lunar New Year holidays. At that time the news of this virus didn't dominate the news headlines until I went to Canada for Lunar Year Year. I came back to Taiwan earlier before the numbers began rising higher, but while I was in Canada for 9 days, there were only 2 cases of COVID-19 and both of these patients have been cured.

I have to be frank to say this, but when this virus was spreading locally in China, the Chinese government was negligent to do all they could to contain it. Because of their negligence, they caused the disease to spread outside the borders of China. If the Chinese government really wanted to stop this, all they simply had to do was lock down the whole country by closing all the borders. Ban all flights from going into China, and ban all people from exiting China (except for foreign tourists). If I was the ruler of a nation like Canada, I would have banned all entry and exit of flights to and from China. That way we would not see a world wide spread of Coronavirus into 89 countries.

My mother is in Jamaica right now at her home she built for her retirement. In Jamaica there are no cases of Coronavirus at all. Jamaica is clean. But where I am, there are only 40 ad cases of Coronavirus but only 25% have recovered. Generally there is more success against Coronavirus than failure. Globally, 47% have been cured, but only 3% have died. But because the virus was not contained in China alone, I am not allowed to leave Taiwan for my upcoming long weekend trip in April. I cannot leave Taiwan until the summer holidays. I just wish there is not such a big hype over this because COVID-19 is not as deadly as you think. If the Chinese government had detected it early and closed its borders, I would not have to worry about this problem.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2020, 11:51:18 am by Foreverparadise »


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2020, 09:22:49 pm »
In Jamaica there are no cases of Coronavirus at all. Jamaica is clean.

Isn't that because this virus thrives in cool, dry climates; heat and humidity kills it?

We're waiting for summer to come around to end it ... but in Jamaica it's summer year round.


Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2020, 09:57:53 pm »
The only level 4 biosafety lab in China, built by the Wuhan Institute of Virology... in Wuhan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology

Lab worker was previously arrested for selling test animals, from the lab, to wet market sellers!

Reports of the virus began in early December and doctors in WeChat group discussing it.

December
Doctors arrested and medical staff silenced with gag order... virus spreads.
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-06/coronavirus-china-xi-li-wenliang

December
More people getting infected, local governors fear reporting to their overlords and try and sweep it under the rug... virus spreads

January
Virus gets international attention as cases around the world spring up. Virus was allowed to spread thanks to China's awful hygiene standards and the CCPs reluctance to alert the rest of the world and potentially lose face... virus spreads.

January-February
CCP goes on a PR campaign to protect its image first by instructing the WHO (CCP's bitch) to downplay the situation and praise the CCP's actions. CCP uses short-sighted strongarm tactics to make a show of combating the virus. The world constantly gets misinformation from China. CCP refuses help from CDC, then publishes articles the America won't offer assistance.
... virus spreads.

February-March
CCP claims victory of COVID-19, claiming more cases in other countries. CCP sends workers back to work (The fate of the Chinese economy and the CCP are intertwined). Local governors, run machines and keep lights on in empty factories to falsely claim that business is back on track...  virus spreads

1000% the CCP is to blame! If the world had any balls, they'd demand reparations for the CCP's negligence, incompetence and deceit.

Difficult to know what's going on in China now. Even the Chinese don't know, with censorship. All I know for sure is that any numbers reporting through official Chinese media or the WHO are lies.


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2020, 12:51:17 am »
Makes sense.
I can see.  I can see.  I can see....


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2020, 12:52:10 am »
I can see.  I can see.  I can see....


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2020, 10:17:42 am »
To contrast the above, here's a lefty-publication video on possibilities of why and how zoonotic diseases come from China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54

As an aside, when BSL-4 places are in the news, there is usually a failing in risk communication.
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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2020, 10:18:08 am »
...just finished that video...very good.


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2020, 04:51:46 pm »
I am not allowed to leave Taiwan for my upcoming long weekend trip in April. I cannot leave Taiwan until the summer holidays.

Forever.... I am puzzled why you say that. There is no travel ban for leaving here except for a country or two who have banned, but generally there is no travel ban for Taiwan.
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2020, 06:02:27 pm »
According to the CCP it is America who is to blame. Unbelievable. The sad part is many Chinese will swallow that lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg7FwHteB0I
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2020, 09:42:49 pm »
I am not allowed to leave Taiwan for my upcoming long weekend trip in April. I cannot leave Taiwan until the summer holidays.

Forever.... I am puzzled why you say that. There is no travel ban for leaving here except for a country or two who have banned, but generally there is no travel ban for Taiwan.

If I leave Taiwan right now to go to Thailand, once I come back they might place me under a 14 day quarantine, and I don't have time for a quarantine.


Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2020, 10:02:25 pm »
To contrast the above, here's a lefty-publication video on possibilities of why and how zoonotic diseases come from China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54

As an aside, when BSL-4 places are in the news, there is usually a failing in risk communication.

This video makes sense. In fact even vegans would have to agree that these diseases would not be popping
up if it had not been for all these wet markets and wildlife farming in China.


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2020, 05:24:34 am »
If I leave Taiwan right now to go to Thailand, once I come back they might place me under a 14 day quarantine, and I don't have time for a quarantine.

I think if you checked there are plenty of countries you can go to without a quarantine when you come back. Pretty sure Thailand is one of them and I know for sure the Philippines is because I just came back.
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2020, 12:37:33 pm »
Wuhan does have a "bio research" lab.  Some of the animals may have been deliberately infected or even sold by employees to the markets.  Who knows? 
I can see.  I can see.  I can see....


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2020, 12:46:51 pm »
Why would China do that though -  deliberately infect their population? How would that benefit them? Rather than a government conspiracy, it's because of lack of cleanliness in a developing country.


Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2020, 01:07:34 pm »
Why would China do that though -  deliberately infect their population? How would that benefit them? Rather than a government conspiracy, it's because of lack of cleanliness in a developing country.

Accident, negligence, incompetence, greed, stupidity, I doubt it was deliberate, but it happened and the responses have been your typical ad-hoc, top-down, CCP reaction:

- censorship
- more brutal censorship and imprisonment
- gag orders
- lies and damage control
- over-the-top corrective measures, with plenty of loopholes
- find a scapegoat
- Focus on PR (We built a hospital in 10 days... don't tell anyone it's already falling apart and is all for show alla DPRK)
- Cut loses, Mao taught the CCP that human life is expendable
- Twist narrative, hail self as saviour and criticise foreign community
- censorship

There's lack of cleanliness and there's China. I don't use this term lightly, but thanks to the cultural devolution it's regressed to a primitive society. Taiwanese and Hong Kongers are genetically identical, so it's not race, it's all culture and history.
The dominant belief is in TCM (tiger penisises will give you virility and there's no such thing as bacteria, it's all chi etc.).
An idiot lab-worker, or weird meat started it and the the CCP's incompetence combined with primitive culture spreads it.


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  • Hero of Waygookistan

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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2020, 03:01:32 pm »
From Aristocrat: "There's lack of cleanliness and there's China."

This is what the crux of the matter is precisely. I lived in China and it is a festering dung heap. Don't be fooled by glossy pictures and post cards.

There were 2 wet markets where I lived and you could smell them from 1/2 a km away.


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2020, 03:07:52 pm »
One cannot under estimate the importance of finger pointing  and blame allocation at this point in time!




LOL


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2020, 05:37:44 pm »
You do realize we live in an economy that China plays a major role in, donít you?  Because consumers like cheaper products and businesses like paying workers low wages, people *chose* to make China an integral part of the supply chain.  Do you think all you have to do is close the borders to China to stop the virus?


Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2020, 08:20:09 am »
You do realize we live in an economy that China plays a major role in, donít you?  Because consumers like cheaper products and businesses like paying workers low wages, people *chose* to make China an integral part of the supply chain.  Do you think all you have to do is close the borders to China to stop the virus?
If I was the ruler of my country, I would have imposed a travel ban on China with this contagious virus going around.
I would have imposed that ban as early as January. I would do it simply to step up security for the health of the subjects
of my country. This is how sovereignty works.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2020, 11:52:44 am by Foreverparadise »


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Re: China is to Blame
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2020, 08:28:52 am »
Russia closed their borders pretty early on. And their Wuhan virus numbers are low compared to the population of the country. It works.

Canada not banning the US is a similar case to Korea not banning China. They need it.
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